College Football 2010

[ViperOverLord]

Hmmm... let's see... Boise beats Virginia Tech by 3 to begin the year and loses to Nevada to end it. The only games they play this year against ranked opposition. Auburn dominates 'Bama in the second half for a come back win, their 6th victory against high ranked opponents and you can't see the significant difference in their 2010 schedules?

Boise has too many wins over teams with losing records this season... so it goes. They're really good, but not great. Which is something that can be said about a lot of the teams this year.

Jesus, it's obvious you didn't take the time to read my post. That's the typical big east school mentality. Considering the recruitment and financial means the big east schools have you better have a top notch program. As long as folks like you get to pick who plays who and who gets to play for all the marbles it'll never change. Quit hiding behind the $ figures and realize that college football has way more to offer. If you want $ then go to the NFL. The BCS system is one sided and until it's gone this will never change. God forbid one of the "little" schools have a chance to play in your sandbox. Bring on a playoff and quit hiding behind a system that is the definition of segregation.

It looks like Auburn might have to play somebody from the PAC 10

He did see what he wanted to see; talking about dominating Alabama for a half. I'm not even that impressed with Bama. I'd take Nevada over them to tell you the truth. I doubt he realizes that Nevada has the 3rd ranked offense that put up 837 yards in a game this season! I doubt he knows that their running back duo set an NCAA record for running yards in a career with over 8300 yards.

BSU actually has one of the better defenses, but Nevada's great run game even wore them down that on the last drive in the 4th quarter they had to use back-up DLs for a couple of plays. And the BSU's back-up DLs are not nearly as good (unlike some teams who have depth at that position).

This guy's going to seriously brag about Auburn going down 21 in the first quarter and winning by a point? I'm not sure that certain players and coaches didn't loaf it and let Auburn win either. Its no secret that Bama gets a bigger piece of the pie if Auburn goes to the championship game.

And the reality is that Boise State has offered home and homes with a lot of 'big' schools and their prez even said they have the phone records to prove it. Meanwhile teams like Florida haven't left their state for a non conference game since 1992! It's bunk. If the big schools and their fans think they're so superior they need to step up and make the playoff system happen. It's in their best interest anyhow. Big schools constantly get screwed over also. They just don't take it as far up the ass as the TCUs and Boise States of the world.

And BSU really played their game and made great plays like a championship team does! It's just shame that they have a kicker that can't nail chip shots or the best team would still be in the running. BSU's better than the 08 Florida team that lost to OleMiss by 3 and still won a championship. College football needs a playoff and this is why I normally just don't care about it. I only cared this year b/c of BSU. The rest the time I refuse to support the corruption.

[Preditor]

I would never take away anything from Auburn or Oregon for that matter. Auburn is a good team with a GREAT quarterback. It'll be a shame if the NCAA finds out there really is/was a pay to play deal especially if Cams father is the guilty one. I do find it hard to believe that IF (and that's a big if) it did happen Cam had no knowledge of it. I have several family members that are Ducks so I've watching them for years. This years team is the real deal and they define the term explosive. If Auburn and Oregon play for the NC it's going to a fantastic game. There's still football to be played and nothing would make me happier then to see South Carolina win and put and end to Auburn's run. That should put TCU and Oregon in the NC. Oregon still has to win the Civil war which is a HUGE game in Oregon. I doubt the Beavers have it in them but it only takes one off game to lose, Boise proved that Friday night. Of coarse we are dealing with the BCS (Big Crock of Shit) so even if TCU is one of the two undefeated teams left they will still probably put a one loss team in front of them because they are not one of their darling teams and it would go against tradition.

It's fucking criminal that a crummy ACC and Big East team is going to get a better bowl (VA TECH comes to mind) then Boise. Right now it looks like Boise is stuck in the Kraft Fight Hunger bowl or the Humanitarian bowl. Really, The Fucking Mac and Cheese bowl for a one loss team. I hope they just play in the Humanitarian to give the seniors one last time to stomp a mud hole in somebody's ass on the blue rug.

[ViperOverLord]

The geniuses just put 2 loss Arkansas and Michigan State ahead of BSU in the polls. Michigan State lost to Iowa 37-6 btw. You never see BSU get their asses handed to them by anyone like that. It's b.s. - the voters don't vote for the best teams, they vote for their conferences or whatever else. The computers are supposed to account for strength of schedule btw. I'm talking about the AP poll and not the BCS rank. The whole system is f'd up.

[Preditor]

It is what it is. Boise ran out of gas and lost a game. It happens even to the best of them. I'm surprised they didn't fall more. Like I said the end of season isn't here yet so I'm hoping they some kind of decent bowl berth. Georgia stepped up to the plate and will play Boise next year and Kellen Moore is only a junior so he'll be back. Coach Peterson isn't going anywhere thou he has many offers. He's a class act.

[HapSmo19]

1 Auburn 12-0
2 Oregon 11-0
3 TCU 12-0
4 Stanford 11-1
5 Wisconsin 11-1
6 Ohio State 11-1
7 Arkansas 10-2
8 Michigan State 11-1
9 Oklahoma 10-2
10 LSU 10-2
11 Boise State 10-1
12 Missouri 10-2
13 Nebraska 10-2
14 Oklahoma State 10-2
15 Virginia Tech 10-2
16 Alabama 9-3
17 Nevada 11-1
18 Texas A&M 9-3
19 South Carolina 9-3
20 Utah 10-2
21 Florida State 9-3
22 Mississippi State 8-4
23 Arizona 7-4
24 West Virginia 8-3
25 Northern Illinois 10-2

GO SOUTH CAROLINA!!!

[rockfist]

OMFG how can anyone even be talking about Boise State anymore?

They would get paved by a good team from the SEC or Big Ten...fucking paved. I almost hope we (Wisconsin) get them so we can throw zero passes as we put up about 60 points against them, but then I don't because I want to play a team from the SEC, which also will not happen. Boise would curl up in the fetal position holding their hands over their ears and wet themselves against us. Oh well bring on Stanford I guess, but tell them to put nine men in the box because its coming.

[rockfist]

BSU will face the same problem every year that their football program excels...

Just saying, "we'll play anybody, anytime, anywhere" won't get it done. All conferences have their own teams' scheduling to deal with, so the Broncos will continue singing the blues for years to come with regards to any shot at a National Championship game.

The strength of schedule of the major Conferences coupled with BCS rankings is not going to let them squeeze in. Only a simultaneous melt down by the SEC, PAC 10, Big 12 and Big Ten can make that possible and that's never going to happen.

I won't be surprised if Boise State gets jumped in the BCS Rankings, simply because their schedule. There are one loss teams playing schedules that BSU can't touch. While it's possible they could go undefeated against Alabama or Auburn's schedule, it's something that will never be known.

This is spot on.

[ViperOverLord]

OMFG how can anyone even be talking about Boise State anymore?

B/C if you watched them, you'd know that they are the best team in college football. Their strength of schedule sucked and we get that component of it. But you can't have this good of a team systematically written off and disregarded by the elites in such a b.s. manner. The system needs to change and there needs to be playoffs. Until that happens college football is a joke.

[Preditor]

Get paved, that's hilarious. The Boise program is just what college football needs. It brings everything back to the basics. Here's to automatic qualifiers, ya, we know you suck and your season shows it but since your a darling team here's a bowl berth for ya. If you don't think the BCS system is broke you need to lay off the crack.

Wisconsin won't play Boise, their done due to one loss and for the first time in 20 weeks are not ranked in the top 10. What you will get is TCU in the Rose bowl. Here's your chance to pave somebody. For your sake I hope this happens. If not be prepared to get verbally raped. TCU isn't half the team Boise is. Wisconsin should write a "How To" book on style points. 201 points in the last 3 games is impressive and shows how much of an offensive powerhouse they are. We won't look at the stats of the defenses they faced. I'm sure that's against some BCS rule.

[Doc_Brown]

This guy's going to seriously brag about Auburn going down 21 in the first quarter and winning by a point? I'm not sure that certain players and coaches didn't loaf it and let Auburn win either. Its no secret that Bama gets a bigger piece of the pie if Auburn goes to the championship game.

You clearly have no clue how football works in this state. College football may be big in other states, but it is a religion in the state of Alabama. The Iron Bowl is one of the nation's biggest rivalries. They actually had to suspend the series in 1907 after it got pretty nasty (it resumed in 1948 at the request of the Alabama legislature). If you were to ask fans of either Alabama or Auburn whether they would prefer to win the Iron Bowl or win the SEC championship, probably 90+% would immediately tell you that they'd gladly go 1-11 if the one win was over the in-state rival. These two teams would sooner throw the National Championship game than they would throw the Iron Bowl. It's simply not physically possible that Saban purposely let Auburn come back for the win.

[AndyDufresne]

TCU to join the Big East.


--Andy

[Doc_Brown]

OMFG how can anyone even be talking about Boise State anymore?

B/C if you watched them, you'd know that they are the best team in college football. Their strength of schedule sucked and we get that component of it. But you can't have this good of a team systematically written off and disregarded by the elites in such a b.s. manner. The system needs to change and there needs to be playoffs. Until that happens college football is a joke.

They have a 50% record against ranked teams this season and no wins over teams finishing the regular season in the top 10. They choked under pressure against one of the two solid teams they've played this season. They've only played 5 teams with winning records (for comparison, Auburn has beaten 5 teams that are finishing the regular season ranked in the top 25). LSU, Arkansas, Alabama, and South Carolina are all solid teams and would match up well in BCS bowls (and LSU, Arkansas, and Alabama would all be ranked higher if they played in different divisions or conferences). Auburn beat every one of them.

A good football team avoids getting in bad situations. A great football team has the mental fortitude to handle bad situations and still win out.

[Preditor]

It might be a religion but it all boils down to money, money, and more money. Calling a team lousy because their schedule is weak and they are not allowed to strengthen it seams a bit of a stretch to me. You ask why can't the strengthen it? Because nobody will play them, yes I said it. Well, why won't anybody play them? It's money, money, and more money! If I was one of the favored schools in a system that is slanted in my direction I wouldn't admit there is anything wrong with the current system. Heck, the money is good and I would never have to explain to my worshipers how some podunk school took me behind the woodshed and gave me lesson in humility.

This automatically qualifying conference stuff is F'up. Last night on the BCS countdown the ran a scenario of where the teams would fall out. The thing that killed me is the bowl predictions have Stanford playing either Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl, or Virginia Tech in the Cotton Bowl. Number 9 or Number 15, that isn't very nice. Also the Big East getting an automatic bid - for Connecticut at 7-4 (WTF?) Granted this was only a projected scenario but you mark my word we will see sort of outcome along these lines. Now we have a single loss team behind 2 loss LSU, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Used to be an undefeated team would generally fall behind one loss teams which is fair...now 2 loss this year so they can put the usual teams up there.

[strike wolf]

There should be a playoff system definitely. I don't buy into the whole BSU is the best in the country or the Alabama let Auburn come back comments. I watched that game. There was no let them do anything about it.

On another note, TCU joining the Big East, huge mistake. They could have done better conference wise if they really wanted to leave and actually with BSU, TCU and Utah in same conference if a couple of other teams could have stepped up like they did last year than the MWC would be looking pretty strong.

[ViperOverLord]

There should be a playoff system definitely. I don't buy into the whole BSU is the best in the country or the Alabama let Auburn come back comments. I watched that game. There was no let them do anything about it.

On another note, TCU joining the Big East, huge mistake. They could have done better conference wise if they really wanted to leave and actually with BSU, TCU and Utah in same conference if a couple of other teams could have stepped up like they did last year than the MWC would be looking pretty strong.

The NCAA was under the direct control of big conferences (school presidents and commissioners), beholden to internal and outside money interests when the BCS was formed. BSU, TCU and Utah could have joined together in a conference and it would not have mattered. The MWC actually did sue this year to be a part of the BCS and it did not work and they had to sign on the dotted line or forfeit the little money that came their way. Had the MWC won, BYU likely would not have went independent.

[ViperOverLord]

OMFG how can anyone even be talking about Boise State anymore?

B/C if you watched them, you'd know that they are the best team in college football. Their strength of schedule sucked and we get that component of it. But you can't have this good of a team systematically written off and disregarded by the elites in such a b.s. manner. The system needs to change and there needs to be playoffs. Until that happens college football is a joke.

They have a 50% record against ranked teams this season and no wins over teams finishing the regular season in the top 10. They choked under pressure against one of the two solid teams they've played this season. They've only played 5 teams with winning records (for comparison, Auburn has beaten 5 teams that are finishing the regular season ranked in the top 25). LSU, Arkansas, Alabama, and South Carolina are all solid teams and would match up well in BCS bowls (and LSU, Arkansas, and Alabama would all be ranked higher if they played in different divisions or conferences). Auburn beat every one of them.

A good football team avoids getting in bad situations. A great football team has the mental fortitude to handle bad situations and still win out.

That's a barbaric way of looking at it. BSU had the game against a top 10 quality team (Nevada) locked up and their kicker choked it. What are you going to do? And if they were in the SEC they could have still went undefeated or maybe had a loss and won the head to head with Auburn. If you bothered to watch BSU's games you'd know how good they are. They're maybe the best college team I've ever seen.

[AndyDufresne]

TCU made sure to position themselves in a 'real conference'---as defined by the BCS. The Mountain West is basically like the WAC Redux now, with BYU going independent and TCU leaving.


--Andy

[Preditor]

There should be a playoff system definitely. I don't buy into the whole BSU is the best in the country or the Alabama let Auburn come back comments. I watched that game. There was no let them do anything about it.

On another note, TCU joining the Big East, huge mistake. They could have done better conference wise if they really wanted to leave and actually with BSU, TCU and Utah in same conference if a couple of other teams could have stepped up like they did last year than the MWC would be looking pretty strong.

Saying anybody is "the best" with the caliber of teams today is nothing but speculation. There isn't a team that can't lose on any given day. I'm really surprised they didn't keep a 3 loss Alabama in the top 10. After all football is a religion in Alabama and being a member of the SEC gives the BCS the right to rank them above anybody that IS a better team with a better record. That's how the BCS rolls.

With TCU moving on it has BSU now thinking WTF! It would be in BSU's best interest to move on to either the Big East or Big 12? It is just a matter of time before the Big East goes to 12 teams so they can have a championship game. I have to think the Big 12 will add teams to replace Nebraska and Colorado as well. They want the $ so they can continue to have a conference championship game.

Viper, it's nice to see somebody else that thinks BSU's football program is not just a fluke. How many years is it going to take before the princess schools realize that you can take small program with limited $ and second tier recruitment and make a top caliber team. Chris Peterson is a damn good coach and has surrounded himself with a great staff. He takes each individual player and exploits their strengths. Out of this he builds a team. The support by everybody for Kyle Brotzman proves this. Trust me it's off the charts here. It's way easy for people to criticize what happened and yes he made two mistakes. But the TEAM lost the game. I'm pretty sure Utah State is shitting their pants about now. Not only do they have to play BSU on the blue rug, they have to play them after the loss. I hope you can watch it. As always it will be fun to watch them play. Typical of BSU you will not see the score run up.

check this link out.... pretty sad when you have to stoop to this
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5857103

[muy_thaiguy]

With TCU moving on it has BSU now thinking WTF! It would be in BSU's best interest to move on to either the Big East or Big 12? It is just a matter of time before the Big East goes to 12 teams so they can have a championship game. I have to think the Big 12 will add teams to replace Nebraska and Colorado as well. They want the $ so they can continue to have a conference championship game.

You do realize how far away Boise, Idaho is from ANY school in the Big Least (barring TCU)? And the Big 12 has said that they want to stay at 10 because they don't want to risk that CCG incase an undefeated team lost, which would cost them a chance at the Mythical Championship Game. The PAC is the closest to BSU in terms of AQ, but the PAC regards BSU as little more than a junior college on steroids academically wise.

[Preditor]

Mythical Championship Game

Cowboy UP!

This year is about the best I've seen for a championship game as long as Auburn and Oregon play. The problem is the "holier than thou" schools will use every excuse they can muster not to give the "Little Sisters of the Poor" a chance to prove your money means nothing on the field. "Well, I don't know enough about the Xs and Os of college football, said Ohio State president E. Gordon Gee". It's obvious this twit has no clue about football and proves money is the driving factor. I'm not typing this as a BSU fan but every "Little Sisters of the poor" fan that thinks enough is enough. God forbid we prove you can have a championship team for far less money .

As far as the Pac10 thinking BSU is little more than a junior college on steroids academically wise, who are they comparing BSU to? Huskies and Cougars? Jesus talk about grasping for straws.

[rockfist]

If you play two ranked teams all year and lose to one of them, you can't make much of an argument. I believe, and much of the country believes, that a one loss team from the SEC, Pac Ten, Big Ten, or in most years ACC or Big East is a better team than an undefeated team who's signature opponent is Nevada...even if they beat Nevada, which they did not. Had Boise gone undefeated it would have been a gross monstrosity for them to play for the national title ahead of a one loss SEC, Pac Ten, or Big Ten team. But the point is moot.

Boise State would be a four loss team in the SEC and at least a three loss team in the Big Ten (depending on which Iowa team showed up to play them the good one that played Wisconsin, and OSU close and beat Michigan State, or the crappy one that lost to Northwestern and Minnesota), which is deserving of a ranking...somewhere between 20-25.

[Night Strike]

Boise State would be a four loss team in the SEC and at least a three loss team in the Big Ten (depending on which Iowa team showed up to play them the good one that played Wisconsin, and OSU close and beat Michigan State, or the crappy one that lost to Northwestern and Minnesota), which is deserving of a ranking...somewhere between 20-25.

Except you can only go with what happens in reality, not hypothetical conference memberships. Going undefeated in any conference is extremely difficult, especially when you're the only great team in your conference. If you want to go with hypothetical conferences, I bet there are no teams in any of those conferences who could travel to the blue turf and beat Boise. Both Boise and TCU are great teams, and they shouldn't be shut out by the BCS snobs.

[rockfist]

I fail to see how being the only great team in your conference would make it harder to go undefeated.

I don't think Boise State would beat any of the following in Boise:

Auburn
Alabama
South Carolina
LSU
Wisconsin
Ohio State
Michigan State
Stanford

[Preditor]

I fail to see how being the only great team in your conference would make it harder to go undefeated.

I don't think Boise State would beat any of the following in Boise:

Auburn
Alabama
South Carolina
LSU
Wisconsin
Ohio State
Michigan State
Stanford

As Viper said earlier, it's very obvious you only see what you want to see. This system is beyond broke and your only hiding behind it.

[rockfist]

You are deluded if you think playing the Boise State schedule REMOTELY resembles playing a major conference schedule. Look at the weight of their offensive and defensive lines. They have one O lineman at 300lbs...They simply would not hold up to a major conference schedule.

Its fun to cheer for the underdog or the cynderella story, but there is a reason they are the underdog. They just aren't as good as the favorite.