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Russia ship-to-shore bombardments against ISIS and All Similar begin -



These are supposedly being fired by the Red Banner Caspian Flotilla, probably the anti-surface variant of the KH-35? Russia received permission from the U.S. puppet government in Baghdad to allow it to fire missiles across Iraqi territory and into Syria, showing America has now been almost completely elbowed out of the region in a matter of a week.

To drive that point home ...

Sixty-four of the S-300s are now in position on ships from the 30th Surface Ship Division off the northern Israeli coast ... if the Zionists even look at Syria again it will be the last thing they see ... according to the Zionists themselves! -
In the view of debkafile’s military sources, the only aircraft capable of evading those advanced missiles are stealth planes. Neither the Israeli, British, Jordanian or Turkish air forces, nor the US squadron in Turkey consisting of F-16 fighters, have such aircraft at their disposal. The S-300 has a range of 150 kilometers and can shoot down any type of missile, including cruise missiles, as well as planes.

http://www.debka.com/article/24929/With ... a-N-Israel
Meanwhile, the very trustworthy Pentagon spokespeople keep huffing-and-puffing, saying Russian bombardments are "bravado" and ineffective, then turn around and say the "ineffective" attacks are killing all the CIA-backed rebels. LMAO. :lol: :lol: :lol: Ministry of Truth.

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SANA reports today that the Syrian Arab Army has been using the break for the last week to mass for a major counter-offensive. The SAA will push every last ISIS and FSA fighter into Iraq. The Iraqi government, in the chaos and with no hope of receiving a redeployment of American troops, will be totally reliant on Iran to move ISIS out and south into the gulf kingdoms, ending forever American regional influence. Not a good day to be Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, or the other medieval dictatorships the U.S. chose to back. And if you're planning on "making aliyah" (AKA colonizing), maybe don't buy real estate in Jerusalem. :lol:



While the U.S. was looking a week or a month ahead for bombastic headlines of triumph, Russia and Syria played the long-game, content in absorbing defeats as their grand strategy unfolded. And now their patience is starting to pay off. This is D-Day, when the war suddenly turned.
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Here are the missiles flying over Iraq...


Here is where the chickens are hiding... In mosques


Some are brave but not very smart... the outcome as expected :lol:
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The Syrian Arab Army this morning launched one of the biggest counter-offensives of the war. In less than 12 hours, the SAA, backed by Hezbollah and Christian NDV units, has captured Al-Mughayr, Ahaya and Markabat, from ISIS and the U.S.-backed FSA. Haaretz is reporting one Russian Mil Mi-28 may have been shot down in the action, however, overall this is a major victory, pushing the rebels almost completely out of Hama province.
  • Meanwhile, the U.S. is shitting its pants because it knows ISIS has only place to retreat to escape Russia's reach: Iraq. That means, either: (a) putting 200,000 U.S. ground troops in Iraq [again], (b) shrugging and letting the brittle Iraqi government fall to ISIS and have an insane Wahabi state on Israel's doorstep, (c) facilitating an increase in Iranian support for Baghdad, which means lifting sanctions and attacks on Hezbollah and cooperating with Tehran over the howls of Israel and Saudi Arabia's lobbyists in Congress. Russian long-term grand strategy, and its willingness to accept short-term defeats over 2-3 years for long-term gains, has painted the U.S. into a corner. THIS IS GETTING GOOD!
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saxitoxin wrote:THIS IS GETTING GOOD!
ISIS is going to stick around, no matter what Russia or the USA does.


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Chinese Intervention Imminent

The Express is now citing "military sources" that Chinese J-15s operating off the PLA-N carrier group that arrived last week will soon enter action.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/610 ... ainst-ISIS

Jerusalem Force Commander Behind Russian-Chinese-Syrian Battle Plan

Reuters is reporting the Russian/Chinese intervention was organized in Moscow based on plans drawn-up by Major-General Qassem Soleimani of the Iranian IRGC's elite Jerusalem Force.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/ ... BV20151006

Russians Have Israeli Air Force Grounded

Israeli military affairs website DEBKAFile says that, the combination of Russian/Chinese aircraft, plus the ship-based S-300s, has made northern Israeli into a de facto "no fly zone" for the Israeli Air Force. The IDF is effectively grounded and unable to operate in its own northern airspace.

http://www.debka.com/article/24929/With ... a-N-Israel

Israeli Crisis Worsens

All 13 of Israel's Muslim and Christian Arab MPs have announced they will defy a ban by the Israeli Police on access to the Al-Aqsa Mosque and attempt to break through police lines. The entire "state" of Israel is on crisis footing in the light of the last several days of Palestinian self-defense actions against the Colonists. Netanyahu has said he may dissolve the government in favor of a coalition with the left-wing opposition. Abu Mazen has warned Netanyahu that any attempt by Israeli forces to violate Mosques or Churches in the West Bank will result in further self-defense actions by Palestinian forces.
Addressing the Israeli government, Abbas said: “Stay away from our Islamic and Christian holy sites.” Abbas said that the Palestinian flag would be raised over the Aksa Mosque and the Church of the Holy Sepulcher when a Palestinian state is established.

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Confl ... tes-421349
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.679439
http://www.thenational.ae/world/palesti ... l-aqsa-ban
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saxitoxin wrote:Russia ship-to-shore bombardments against ISIS and All Similar begin -



These are supposedly being fired by the Red Banner Caspian Flotilla, probably the anti-surface variant of the KH-35? Russia received permission from the U.S. puppet government in Baghdad to allow it to fire missiles across Iraqi territory and into Syria, showing America has now been almost completely elbowed out of the region in a matter of a week.

To drive that point home ...

Sixty-four of the S-300s are now in position on ships from the 30th Surface Ship Division off the northern Israeli coast ... if the Zionists even look at Syria again it will be the last thing they see ... according to the Zionists themselves! -
In the view of debkafile’s military sources, the only aircraft capable of evading those advanced missiles are stealth planes. Neither the Israeli, British, Jordanian or Turkish air forces, nor the US squadron in Turkey consisting of F-16 fighters, have such aircraft at their disposal. The S-300 has a range of 150 kilometers and can shoot down any type of missile, including cruise missiles, as well as planes.

http://www.debka.com/article/24929/With ... a-N-Israel
Meanwhile, the very trustworthy Pentagon spokespeople keep huffing-and-puffing, saying Russian bombardments are "bravado" and ineffective, then turn around and say the "ineffective" attacks are killing all the CIA-backed rebels. LMAO. :lol: :lol: :lol: Ministry of Truth.

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AndyDufresne wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:...
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Yes Andy, that's part of the problem with Russia and their high rate of alcoholism. Russia should make sure those who assemble high tech and dangerous weapon systems should be alcohol free.
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LOL - right on cue, Bernie "Corporate Media" "The Warmonger" Sanders. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The tale of Russian missiles crashing in Iran was first reported on CNN quoting "anonymous sources." This is the same CNN that was first to report Iraqi soldiers were killing Kuwaiti babies in incubators in 1991 (later turned out to be a false story that originated from a Pentagon-connected PR firm), during the 2008 Georgian-Ossetian war showed photos of Georgian attacks on Tskhinvali and said they were Russian attacks on Gori, that during the 2008 Iranian protests had to issue a public apology for sourcing information from Twitter and then calling it "anonymous sources" in their broadcasts, etc. etc.

The Kremlin has issued an on-the-record reply to CNN's "anonymous sources" -
  • "Unlike CNN, we don't report quoting anonymous sources, but we show launches of our missiles and the targets they hit in real-time mode. No matter how unpleasant and unexpected it is for our colleagues in the Pentagon and Langley, our strike yesterday with precision-guided weapons at ISIS infrastructure in Syria hit its targets."
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U.S. Announces End of Failed Program to Train/Equip Syrian "Rebels"
The Obama administration has ended its $500 million program to train and equip Syrian rebels, administration officials said on Friday, in an acknowledgment that the beleaguered program had failed to produce any kind of ground combat forces capable of taking on the Islamic State in Syria.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/world ... .html?_r=0
NYT Explains SAA Offensive

The NYT published a great graphic showing what I described yesterday, the rapid advances miraculously made by the Syrian Arab Army despite all Russian bombs and missiles missing their targets, according to CNN's "anonymous sources." ( :lol: ) The Syrian Arab Army is great, they can suddenly overwhelm entrenched defenses that haven't been penetrated in months ... despite every Russian bomb and missile accidentally landing thousands of miles away, according to CNN's "anonymous sources." ( :lol: )

(In their report, the NYT saved face by not once mentioning the CNN "anonymous source" that said the cruise missile strike missed.)

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AndyDufresne wrote: ISIS is going to stick around, no matter what Russia or the USA does.


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I agree with Andy.

Tough do we really think Russia is hitting Isis?

I try to NOT follow new anymore.. but from non-Saxi sources it appears more likely they are hitting Syria Rebels.
Some of which may be Isis, but most of which are not.

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jimboston wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote: ISIS is going to stick around, no matter what Russia or the USA does.


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I agree with Andy.

Tough do we really think Russia is hitting Isis?

I try to NOT follow new anymore.. but from non-Saxi sources it appears more likely they are hitting Syria Rebels.
Some of which may be Isis, but most of which are not.

amiwrong?

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There's no difference between terrorists and "Syria Rebels." The main U.S.-backed rebel group, the Free Syria Army, has been in a coalition-of-convenience with Khorasan (Al-Qaeda), the al-Nusra Front, and the Sham Legion for the better part of the last year under the umbrella name "Army of Conquest." Their plan was to hold-off fighting each other until the fall of the Arab Socialist Baath Party and then have an ultimate showdown (ostensibly political, but more likely military) for control of the Syrian government. Any attack on the American allies, therefore, weakens American opponents. The corollary is also true, that any attack on American opponents, weakens American allies.

Americans prefer fighting wars with two sides involving a "Blue Team" (us) and a "Red Team" (them). But many of the Blue Team members have drinks on the weekends with Red Team members and then there's a Green Team and an Orange Team that keep running onto the field and trying to steal the ball. The U.S. is like a blind 90 year-old taking-care of 500 cats. American incompetence and buffoonery has resulted in a humanitarian disaster for the people of Syria. After the complete cock-up of Iraq, and then Libya, Russia had no choice but to step in to clean shit up. And, yes, they may use straight bleach instead of scented-lubriderm moist towlettes, and you may not like that, but shit is getting clean.
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saxitoxin wrote:U.S. Announces End of Failed Program to Train/Equip Syrian "Rebels"
The Obama administration has ended its $500 million program to train and equip Syrian rebels, administration officials said on Friday, in an acknowledgment that the beleaguered program had failed to produce any kind of ground combat forces capable of taking on the Islamic State in Syria.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/world ... .html?_r=0
You know what is really funny, saxi? We've spent $500 million (supposedly) to train and equip Syrian rebels (moderates supposedly even though the NYT just recently said that Al Qaeda is "moderate" HAHAH) and less than a month ago General Lloyd Austin testified before Congress that the US has only trained about "4 or 5 rebels". I shit you not. $500 million to train five guys.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... s-fighters

Now, we've trained five guys, and everywhere the Russians are bombing are hitting "our guys" are we supposed to believe that only 4 or 5 guys are in control of vast swaths of Syria?

I don't know how anyone in their right mind would believe a single word said about Syria coming from the mouths of our politicians or American media. Its all bullshit.

Assad has to go because the House of Saad and Qatar need him to go. How many of you are comfortable doing the bidding of Saudi Arabia and Qatar? All those Syrian people dead because it serves the interests not of the US, but the interests of Saudi and Qatar? That blood is on our hands and Assad was never, ever a threat to the US.

Its disgusting IMO. My beloved nation shouldn't be engaged in this sort of thing, its a travesty of everything we were supposed to stand for and the opposite of how our Founders intended for our nation to engage with other nations.
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patches70 wrote:the NYT just recently said that Al Qaeda is "moderate"
This takes the cake.

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SANA is reporting 300 "rebels" have been killed in the last 24 hours in joint Syrian-Russian operations (including 100 killed in a single strike on a munitions-filled weapons cache) and more than 30 kilometers of additional territory has fallen to the Syrian Arab Army.

The advances of the SAA have become so readily confirmable now that the western media have stopped publishing their "anonymous sources" about Russian "misses" entirely and are now leading their headlines with news about pre-Halloween pumpkin shortages.

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  • President Bashar Al-Assad wants reform and change to meet the aspirations of his people. They are trying to pressure Syria and President Al-Assad because of the good things that he did such as supporting Palestinian and Lebanese resistance and rejecting surrender to Israel. - MP George Galloway
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saxitoxin wrote:
  • President Bashar Al-Assad wants reform and change to meet the aspirations of his people. They are trying to pressure Syria and President Al-Assad because of the good things that he did such as supporting Palestinian and Lebanese resistance and rejecting surrender to Israel. - MP George Galloway
:lol:
That he actually said this, I have to laugh. It's like the numbnuts forgot how this thing started.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26116868
http://www.britannica.com/event/Syrian-Civil-War
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/syrian-c ... d=20112311
https://www.mercycorps.org/articles/tur ... ria-crisis

Every single credible news source out there says the same thing. The Syrian populace peacefully protested Assad's regime, wanting democratic reforms, Assad said "NO! I brutal dictator for reason!" and began slaughtering them. The Syrian populace than armed themselves to defend themselves and it quickly escalated from there.
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/14/9319293/sy ... -civil-war
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muy_thaiguy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
  • President Bashar Al-Assad wants reform and change to meet the aspirations of his people. They are trying to pressure Syria and President Al-Assad because of the good things that he did such as supporting Palestinian and Lebanese resistance and rejecting surrender to Israel. - MP George Galloway
:lol:
That he actually said this, I have to laugh. It's like the numbnuts forgot how this thing started.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26116868
http://www.britannica.com/event/Syrian-Civil-War
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/syrian-c ... d=20112311
https://www.mercycorps.org/articles/tur ... ria-crisis

Every single credible news source out there says the same thing. The Syrian populace peacefully protested Assad's regime, wanting democratic reforms, Assad said "NO! I brutal dictator for reason!" and began slaughtering them. The Syrian populace than armed themselves to defend themselves and it quickly escalated from there.
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/14/9319293/sy ... -civil-war
Your "credible" sources say the same for Libya or Iraq. US introduced impressive democratic reforms in there :lol:

Btw Russian Jets Carry Out Record 67 Sorties Against ISIL Targets in Syria, US lead coalition had 2 :shock:
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GoranZ wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
  • President Bashar Al-Assad wants reform and change to meet the aspirations of his people. They are trying to pressure Syria and President Al-Assad because of the good things that he did such as supporting Palestinian and Lebanese resistance and rejecting surrender to Israel. - MP George Galloway
:lol:
That he actually said this, I have to laugh. It's like the numbnuts forgot how this thing started.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26116868
http://www.britannica.com/event/Syrian-Civil-War
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/syrian-c ... d=20112311
https://www.mercycorps.org/articles/tur ... ria-crisis

Every single credible news source out there says the same thing. The Syrian populace peacefully protested Assad's regime, wanting democratic reforms, Assad said "NO! I brutal dictator for reason!" and began slaughtering them. The Syrian populace than armed themselves to defend themselves and it quickly escalated from there.
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/14/9319293/sy ... -civil-war
Your "credible" sources say the same for Libya or Iraq. US introduced impressive democratic reforms in there :lol:
As opposed to "news" controlled by the Russian Government that won't allow any criticism what so ever of Russian policies or practices? Where it's "Russia and a handful of allies against Fascist Ukraine and Fascist West! Because, Fascist!" Or how about "Russia bomb ISIS!" when "Russia bomb about everybody but ISIS and makes landgrabbing for ISIS much easier!" Ooh, I know! "All those opposed to Assad is Terrorist!" instead of "Multi-sided Civil War where various groups fight eachother, ISIS, and Assad!" Or, finally, and to sum everything up, "World is Black and White, nothing in between!" Instead of "Nothing is ever "black and white" and is often more complicated than it seems".

So go back to Mr. Napoleon complex, since his word is the Bible to you and everything else is "evil, barbaric, fascist, and/or terrorist".
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muy_thaiguy wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
  • President Bashar Al-Assad wants reform and change to meet the aspirations of his people. They are trying to pressure Syria and President Al-Assad because of the good things that he did such as supporting Palestinian and Lebanese resistance and rejecting surrender to Israel. - MP George Galloway
:lol:
That he actually said this, I have to laugh. It's like the numbnuts forgot how this thing started.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26116868
http://www.britannica.com/event/Syrian-Civil-War
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/syrian-c ... d=20112311
https://www.mercycorps.org/articles/tur ... ria-crisis

Every single credible news source out there says the same thing. The Syrian populace peacefully protested Assad's regime, wanting democratic reforms, Assad said "NO! I brutal dictator for reason!" and began slaughtering them. The Syrian populace than armed themselves to defend themselves and it quickly escalated from there.
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/14/9319293/sy ... -civil-war
Your "credible" sources say the same for Libya or Iraq. US introduced impressive democratic reforms in there :lol:
As opposed to "news" controlled by the Russian Government that won't allow any criticism what so ever of Russian policies or practices? Where it's "Russia and a handful of allies against Fascist Ukraine and Fascist West! Because, Fascist!" Or how about "Russia bomb ISIS!" when "Russia bomb about everybody but ISIS and makes landgrabbing for ISIS much easier!" Ooh, I know! "All those opposed to Assad is Terrorist!" instead of "Multi-sided Civil War where various groups fight eachother, ISIS, and Assad!" Or, finally, and to sum everything up, "World is Black and White, nothing in between!" Instead of "Nothing is ever "black and white" and is often more complicated than it seems".

So go back to Mr. Napoleon complex, since his word is the Bible to you and everything else is "evil, barbaric, fascist, and/or terrorist".
Hahahahaha you are barking like beaten dog :lol:
Let me point out something to you: Russians will target any Islamist in Syria, regardless how you call it(ISIS, Free Syrian Army etc). The goal is simple... There is no room for Islamists in Syria. Iraq might follow also if the Chinese join in the fighting.
Its really not my(or Russian) problem if you dont like the outcome ;)
You really need to understand that US is no longer strongest in the world. Sooner you understand the better for you. Until then you can continue with you whining :lol:

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"You really need to understand that US is no longer strongest in the world."



Really GoranZ? There's a stronger military power than America? Please tell us whom.
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Bernie Sanders wrote:"You really need to understand that US is no longer strongest in the world."



Really GoranZ? There's a stronger military power than America? Please tell us whom.
Typically American... Everything is black and white :lol:
Although I said it differently, without exclusivity of military power... But when it comes to military power American army is not powerful than the army it cannot defeat, this applies not just to the American army ;)
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