SAW Mafia -Day 2/No one dead!/Follow Your Pr's!

[pmchugh]

Yeah ani is Dr. Gordon who broke his pr, but I would really like to hear from him via tonka to tell us why he hasn't pm'ed farside.

Besides that I don't really think we want to lynch Dr. Gordon yet anyway, i think we should more concentrate on trying to find jigsaw, Zep and any others that are scum, possibly Amanda? Cant remember any other scum, although i think the later films have some but Ive never seen them. I wonder how far into the series this goes?

[got tonkaed]

For a clarification point...assume information was drawn from all of the series movies thus far.

[got tonkaed]

Yeah, it's me, I read half the PM, so I didn't know that I could talk via PM/by Adam this day. If I'm lucky, then I might be able to posty tomorrow. I will try to keep an often amount of postsm so you guys don't miss me

cheers

~Dr Gordon

[got tonkaed]

posting to inform everyone a deadline is coming...will edit in a minute to see exactly how much time.

Edit you guys have just over 24 hours from this post. Vote count has not changed as far as i can tell.

[ga7]

Upon rereading I didn't see much besides / making his usual lazy ass scummy act which I'd love to lynch for, but it sounds more and more to me that Adam/Gordon are mutual lynchers that could win today by getting the other lynched. Notice that first Ani voted Farside, then identified him as Adam; the opposite is also true as we saw this "secret vote" magically appear on Ani's wagon, it's highly likely it comes from Farside. No matter what they say, they both have been acting like lynchers and not survivors. I suggest not playing into their and Jigsaw's hands and not lynch either of them today. At worst they both lose, at best they switch to just survivor or possibly townies but I doubt so. Thoughts?

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Huh, out of all the submariners, for two to be replaced so fast, they must have very significant roles to the game, I mean I was submarining for just as long and I wasn't so much as prodded.

[got tonkaed]

Huh, out of all the submariners, for two to be replaced so fast, they must have very significant roles to the game, I mean I was submarining for just as long and I wasn't so much as prodded.

Stephen wayne was quitting the forum, and Kalish pmed me of his own accord.

[ga7]

Ok so basically we have...

I can post just fine, plenty of people haven't posted yet actually, My logic for not posting was simply because I thought there was a possibility of Dr. Gordon having some sort of day-kill powers, I didn't post so I could give Adam a better chance of not being killed. (even though it theoretically would give myself a higher chance of being day-killed)

Two people hadn't posted and were replaced and your lousy excuse is being afraid of daykills. Who would bother ever daykilling you in day 1 when you rarely try to actually play it? And what does the Adam/Gordon thing have to do with you?

Huh, out of all the submariners, for two to be replaced so fast, they must have very significant roles to the game, I mean I was submarining for just as long and I wasn't so much as prodded.

Those people had a good excuse as GT pointed out, you had none. I like the attempt at trying to put the attention on the others though.
Vote /

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Ok so basically we have...

I can post just fine, plenty of people haven't posted yet actually, My logic for not posting was simply because I thought there was a possibility of Dr. Gordon having some sort of day-kill powers, I didn't post so I could give Adam a better chance of not being killed. (even though it theoretically would give myself a higher chance of being day-killed)

Two people hadn't posted and were replaced and your lousy excuse is being afraid of daykills. Who would bother ever daykilling you in day 1 when you rarely try to actually play it? And what does the Adam/Gordon thing have to do with you?

Do you try to actually read what I'm saying, or just guess? Adam apparently can't post, DR.gordon wants to kill him, (my assumption is if he can find him, he can somehow kill Adam) since so many people are trying to find him through process of elimination I also don't post, if Gordon uses this assumed ability on myself or one of the other submariners, there is a possibility that we won't die and Gordon uses up his action, of course, this is baseless speculation. But at the start of the game you can only hope to make up theories and get lucky.

Huh, out of all the submariners, for two to be replaced so fast, they must have very significant roles to the game, I mean I was submarining for just as long and I wasn't so much as prodded.

Those people had a good excuse as GT pointed out, you had none. I like the attempt at trying to put the attention on the others though.
Vote /

Just an idea, there's no reason to have ideas if you don't want to share with the town.
Since GT answered my question, I have that much more knowledge not to follow up on a false lead.

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Ok so basically we have...

I can post just fine, plenty of people haven't posted yet actually, My logic for not posting was simply because I thought there was a possibility of Dr. Gordon having some sort of day-kill powers, I didn't post so I could give Adam a better chance of not being killed. (even though it theoretically would give myself a higher chance of being day-killed)

Two people hadn't posted and were replaced and your lousy excuse is being afraid of daykills. Who would bother ever daykilling you in day 1 when you rarely try to actually play it? And what does the Adam/Gordon thing have to do with you?

Do you try to actually read what I'm saying, or just guess? Adam apparently can't post, DR.gordon wants to kill him, (my assumption is if he can find him, he can somehow kill Adam) since so many people are trying to find him through process of elimination I also don't post, if Gordon uses this assumed ability on myself or one of the other submariners, there is a possibility that we won't die and Gordon uses up his action, of course, this is baseless speculation. But at the start of the game you can only hope to make up theories and hope to be lucky.

Huh, out of all the submariners, for two to be replaced so fast, they must have very significant roles to the game, I mean I was submarining for just as long and I wasn't so much as prodded.

Those people had a good excuse as GT pointed out, you had none. I like the attempt at trying to put the attention on the others though.
Vote /

Just an idea, there's no reason to have ideas if you don't want to share with the town.
Since GT answered my question, I have that much more knowledge not to follow up on a false lead.


messed up that quote

[ga7]

vote:farside he is far to good of a player to play in this game. If he is scum, he will take the town down.

Ani is voting for Adam. Why is that? Are you afraid of telling people what you know? What is your grand plan in voting for Adam? I know who you are as I asked I was informed you would know me. Someone is coming off scummy already.
Votes ho!!

Adam

I can post just fine, plenty of people haven't posted yet actually, My logic for not posting was simply because I thought there was a possibility of Dr. Gordon having some sort of day-kill powers, I didn't post so I could give Adam a better chance of not being killed. (even though it theoretically would give myself a higher chance of being day-killed)

Can you see why your reasoning doesn't make sense and you in fact have no excuse? If at least you had picked Adam as your supposed day killer it might have passed, (even though it could be fairly clear for someone looking for him when GT announced a broken PR)

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Why do you and the rest of town think it's so important to lynch Adam or Gordon?
Even if Ani is Gordon, that doesn't make him scum, if we can settle this without a death, the conditions for the "game" would end, leaving us more townies to use against jigsaw.
even if I knew exactly who Adam and Gordon are, I couldn't do anything about it, I prefer to halt their activities (by lessening the chances of them finding out each other's identities) so neither needs to die.

[ga7]

I suggest not playing into their and Jigsaw's hands and not lynch either of them today. At worst they both lose, at best they switch to just survivor or possibly townies but I doubt so. Thoughts?

[mandalorian2298]

Upon rereading I didn't see much besides / making his usual lazy ass scummy act which I'd love to lynch for, but it sounds more and more to me that Adam/Gordon are mutual lynchers that could win today by getting the other lynched. Notice that first Ani voted Farside, then identified him as Adam; the opposite is also true as we saw this "secret vote" magically appear on Ani's wagon, it's highly likely it comes from Farside. No matter what they say, they both have been acting like lynchers and not survivors. I suggest not playing into their and Jigsaw's hands and not lynch either of them today. At worst they both lose, at best they switch to just survivor or possibly townies but I doubt so. Thoughts?

unvote vote Farside

Oh, I guess you will want a reason to go with that vote, huh?

Ok, here goes:

1. Farside seems to be Adam and Ani seems to be DR Gordon.
2. Also, Ani seems to be trying to lynch Farside.
3. These two have PR which indicates that, at the moment, their status is in some way different from the status of the rest of the players.

Theory: I admit that I haven't watched any of 'Saw' movies, but my little brother retold me a scene from one. It appears to me that the killer in question enjoys to force people into doing things they never would were they lives not threatened. This being so, my hypothesis is that Adam and dr. Gordon are currently captured and that, in order to survive, each one of them has to lynch the other. Given that they are in the hands of a serial killer, my second hypothesis is that, should they both survive 'till Night 1 they will both be killed (as opposed to being rewarded for their altruism ).
This being so, I suggest that we lynch farside (Adam) in order to save Ani (Doctor Gordon). I have no idea who Adam is, but I would definitely prefer to keep the good Doctor alive as long as possible.

[mandalorian2298]

I suggest not playing into their and Jigsaw's hands and not lynch either of them today. At worst they both lose, at best they switch to just survivor or possibly townies but I doubt so. Thoughts?

Are you disagreeing with yourself Ga7?

Also, I have a question for people who watched the movies: Beside the Killer, who else could be in the Mafia. Or (given that the movie has sequels) could it be that we are facing multiple SKs?

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Alright, so, just to get this all in perspective, Adam and Gordon should not die, but I should, for attempting to keep their identities hidden from killers and scum?
You keep missing the main point of my motive, for everyone who did not post today, there was less chance of finding out who Adam was, Adam is most likely a role useful to town, so it is best that everyone in this game doesn't know exactly who he is. (obviously too late for that, which is why I started posting.)

[spurgistan]

Mandy thinks what I think, although, I think I'd rather lynch dr gordon than adam. vote: ani

[got tonkaed]

Day 1 vote counts
/ 1 (ga7)
Ga7 1 (nagerous)
Animorpherv1 7(ace1217,sierra_leon,spinwizard,LSU,Kernal_kronic,murdock,secretvote)
Pmchugh 1(Nickbaldwin)
Strider24 1 (spurgistan)

spurgistans last vote doesnt count because as far as i can tell he did not unvote.

You guys have about 19 hours i believe.

[pmchugh]

Upon rereading I didn't see much besides / making his usual lazy ass scummy act which I'd love to lynch for, but it sounds more and more to me that Adam/Gordon are mutual lynchers that could win today by getting the other lynched. Notice that first Ani voted Farside, then identified him as Adam; the opposite is also true as we saw this "secret vote" magically appear on Ani's wagon, it's highly likely it comes from Farside. No matter what they say, they both have been acting like lynchers and not survivors. I suggest not playing into their and Jigsaw's hands and not lynch either of them today. At worst they both lose, at best they switch to just survivor or possibly townies but I doubt so. Thoughts?

unvote vote Farside

Oh, I guess you will want a reason to go with that vote, huh?

Ok, here goes:

1. Farside seems to be Adam and Ani seems to be DR Gordon.
2. Also, Ani seems to be trying to lynch Farside.
3. These two have PR which indicates that, at the moment, their status is in some way different from the status of the rest of the players.

Theory: I admit that I haven't watched any of 'Saw' movies, but my little brother retold me a scene from one. It appears to me that the killer in question enjoys to force people into doing things they never would were they lives not threatened. This being so, my hypothesis is that Adam and dr. Gordon are currently captured and that, in order to survive, each one of them has to lynch the other. Given that they are in the hands of a serial killer, my second hypothesis is that, should they both survive 'till Night 1 they will both be killed (as opposed to being rewarded for their altruism ).
This being so, I suggest that we lynch farside (Adam) in order to save Ani (Doctor Gordon). I have no idea who Adam is, but I would definitely prefer to keep the good Doctor alive as long as possible.

That sounds plausible but id rather lynch ani, because farside seems a better player and also ani could be re-used as a target if they take his family hostage like in the film.

The game wont end if a lyncher wins and it looks pretty clear they are trying to kill each other unless there is another way to keep them alive and ani you should tell us if their is then i think we are forced into a lynch.

Of course we know your Dr. Gordon but care to give us a more specific claim because with a deadline approaching ani we will have to lynch you otherwise.

[guylian]

vote ani

for the same reasons as earlier and also this

Yeah, it's me, I read half the PM, so I didn't know that I could talk via PM/by Adam this day. If I'm lucky, then I might be able to posty tomorrow. I will try to keep an often amount of postsm so you guys don't miss me

cheers

~Dr Gordon

i don't think you would have only half read your PM.....you seem to have a really interesting role, if i had your role i would have read that PM several times to make sure i knew what i was doing.

strange that you didn't talk with farside, strange i think your lying about it now

[spurgistan]

Sorry GT. unvote vote animorph

[pmchugh]

Ani is at L-1 time to claim.

[Sierra_Leon]

Claim? We already know he's doctor Gordon. Normally I would oppose this lynch, but unfortuntely G_T has made day 1 WAY to short, which eliminates any options of discussing anything really. A dr Gordon lynch is better than a no-lynch at this point. Even if he's a doctor (which I doubt), it's still ani so the chances of him doing anything useful with his role are still nihil. So to whoever is posting next: you have my blessing to hammer animorph.

[FloresDelMal]

should they both survive 'till Night 1 they will both be killed (as opposed to being rewarded for their altruism ).
This being so, I suggest that we lynch farside (Adam) in order to save Ani (Doctor Gordon). I have no idea who Adam is, but I would definitely prefer to keep the good Doctor alive as long as possible.

as much as it pain me seeing ani play like shit, once again, i have to agree with mandy, i dont see how keep both of them will work out for good, and i could hate to lose a doctor so early into the game, so ani, if we manage to save your ass, and you have actual doctor powers instead of just flavor, please make yourself useful and stop with the idiot of excuses.

vote farside

[Kernal_Kronic]

If this follows all the saw movies then there should be a back up doc as there was another doc in the 3rd film.