***Finn Rock Fallout*** -- Game Over ~ Infected Win

[Master Bush]

I'm watching you MB

Oooh, cool. I hope you were watching when I started the movement to lynch AK and autoload.

I'm pretty sure you didnt start the movement to lynch AK.

No you are wrong. When most people were voting no Lynch or not voting at all, I was the one who said it would be dumb not to kill either Autoload or AK. I said it over and over again, that onc had to be lynched, so we could see who was lying about their role claims. I was all set to vote AK until autoload was picking up votes, and then AK coming out and saying that him and Rev used radios to talk as masons. I believed he was infact telling the truth, because me and cram also used radios as masons. That's why I changed my vote to autoload. It turns out that AK was a two-faced mason/mafia, which is why he knew about the radios. I was the 7th vote out of 8 to lynch him on the second day.

[HoussamTheGreat]

OK dear husband... I am going to humor you just this once out of pity for the challenged....

So Houssam, by your reasoning, it's not OK to ignore that Auto was telling us he's a cop?? THEN WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM?????????????

If you truly thought Auto might be cop, then why did you bandwagon instead of trying to save him??? You're calling me stupid for "Ignoring" Auto's claim, which I didn't do BTW, YET YOU VOTE FOR HIM!!!!!!

We hold this truth to be self evident: more townies are better than less!

I am assuming for the sake of argument we have 16 people divided in 12 townies and 4 mafia. This is (for the sake of argument) where we started day one - 12 vs 4. A no lynch would have left us starting day 2 11 Vs 4 with ZERO additional information. Call me crazy, but at the time, I thought that having more townies was a good thing!!

For the nth time, I clearly stated I was voting for Auto even though I was suspected you. I was voting for Auto because in my assessment we NEEDED a vote, even if a wrong one - because a no lynch would have resulted in a mafia kill at night and we are back to the exact same confusion the next morning. A wrong kill -which I believe we were committing- would have at least given us one mafia member the next day, which it did.


If it were up to me, and we had to choose between IC and Auto, I would have gone for the guy who DIDN'T claim to be a cop - the probability of a mistake is the same in both cases, but we at least stood a chance to keep the cop if we were right.

That hubby is why I "bandwagoned" against Autoload.

Now PLEASE stop repeating the same crap over and over and over and over again... Find new crap, I am sure you can

[wicked]

wow you actually responded, you must really think that to be damning evidence. No, a townie would've tried to save the cop, not hopped on a bandwagon they "knew" to be an incorrect vote.

[HoussamTheGreat]

I would vote for: Trestain..

Hope dinner turned out fabulous - but please don't vote for Trestain - Let us not fragment the votes. Tonight, either I go or Wicked does. Plain and simple. This is how we will learn. Can I talk you into picking one?

And by the way, I will put my money where my mouth is. (oh Andy will love THAT!!) If I am missing one vote, I will lynch myself - I believe this would make it the first suicide in a mafia game - provide I get written promises on the record to vote Wicked next if I turn out to be a townie. How is that?

[trestain]

bogus i would like to know why you are sure wicked and MB are not mafia i think it would help

[HoussamTheGreat]

wow you actually responded, you must really think that to be damning evidence. No, a townie would've tried to save the cop, not hopped on a bandwagon they "knew" to be an incorrect vote.

Errr.. sweetie pie.. if this is the new crap, let's stick with the old one I guess!

[Bogusbet]

I'm watching you MB

Oooh, cool. I hope you were watching when I started the movement to lynch AK and autoload.

I'm pretty sure you didnt start the movement to lynch AK.

No you are wrong. When most people were voting no Lynch or not voting at all, I was the one who said it would be dumb not to kill either Autoload or AK. I said it over and over again, that onc had to be lynched, so we could see who was lying about their role claims. I was all set to vote AK until autoload was picking up votes, and then AK coming out and saying that him and Rev used radios to talk as masons. I believed he was infact telling the truth, because me and cram also used radios as masons. That's why I changed my vote to autoload. It turns out that AK was a two-faced mason/mafia, which is why he knew about the radios. I was the 7th vote out of 8 to lynch him on the second day.

I agree with this.

[Master Bush]

I would vote for: Trestain..

Hope dinner turned out fabulous - but please don't vote for Trestain - Let us not fragment the votes. Tonight, either I go or Wicked does. Plain and simple. This is how we will learn. Can I talk you into picking one?

And by the way, I will put my money where my mouth is. (oh Andy will love THAT!!) If I am missing one vote, I will lynch myself - I believe this would make it the first suicide in a mafia game - provide I get written promises on the record to vote Wicked next if I turn out to be a townie. How is that?

That's the second or maybe 3 rd vote for trestain, so nobody's fragmented the votes.

These 2 are clearly trying to get the other one lynched. It has to be part of their roles.

[Machiavelli]

Moz, think for a minute. Why would I knowingly associate myself with IC if I knew he was mafia? It would have been VERY easy to hop on the lynch IC bandwagon.

Why lynch your mafia partner?

I have a theory on HoussamTheGreat and Wicked.

The are ex husband and wife, who each other. So what if their role was to go at each other the whole game, trying to get the other one lynched, even though neither are mafia?

Crazy idea?

A crazy good idea!

3. Changed vote to autoload in order not to end up with a no lynch vote clearly stating that I thought autoload was clean. Turned out to be right.

So you would rather lynch the cop then have a no lynch?

That makes a lot of sense.

Until that post I was thinking of unvoting you.

Master bush i have explained why i voted for autoload in the end, if you remember i was all for voting AK for most of the first day i only changed because i feared we wouldn't get a lynch otherwise.

Can someone please explain this logic to me?

Everyone else seems to understand it but to me it still sounds crazy and stupid.

Surely a true townie would never have such a PERFECT suspicion & voting record. Why is that Mr Mafia? hmmm????

I have

VOTE WICKED (for auto.... and me.)

I dont think you are allowed to use people to endorse your vote, especially not people that you helped kill

Completely out of context. The only reason I went after autoload was because we were heading towards a no lynch which was the only thing worse than voting our cop off. At the time, my suspicions were around wicked, and I plainly explained that I will switch to anyone the town chooses in order to avoid a no lynch.

THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!!!


How is a no lynch worse than voting off our cop?!?!?!?!


With that logic, we might as well lynch the cop at the start of the game, because that would be better than a no lynch.

[XenHu]

I would vote for: Trestain..

Hope dinner turned out fabulous - but please don't vote for Trestain - Let us not fragment the votes. Tonight, either I go or Wicked does. Plain and simple. This is how we will learn. Can I talk you into picking one?

And by the way, I will put my money where my mouth is. (oh Andy will love THAT!!) If I am missing one vote, I will lynch myself - I believe this would make it the first suicide in a mafia game - provide I get written promises on the record to vote Wicked next if I turn out to be a townie. How is that?

That's the second or maybe 3 rd vote for trestain, so nobody's fragmented the votes.

These 2 are clearly trying to get the other one lynched. It has to be part of their roles.

Master Bush? That post does not appear in the thread...Did Houssam delete it?

-X

[Master Bush]

I would vote for: Trestain..

Hope dinner turned out fabulous - but please don't vote for Trestain - Let us not fragment the votes. Tonight, either I go or Wicked does. Plain and simple. This is how we will learn. Can I talk you into picking one?

And by the way, I will put my money where my mouth is. (oh Andy will love THAT!!) If I am missing one vote, I will lynch myself - I believe this would make it the first suicide in a mafia game - provide I get written promises on the record to vote Wicked next if I turn out to be a townie. How is that?

That's the second or maybe 3 rd vote for trestain, so nobody's fragmented the votes.

These 2 are clearly trying to get the other one lynched. It has to be part of their roles.

Master Bush? That post does not appear in the thread...Did Houssam delete it?

-X

Yes it is. It's the 9th post down.

[XenHu]

Oh..

My bad

-X

[Master Bush]

This would be a good time for a vote count. X, I'm not sure if you voted for trestain or not. It wasn't in bold, so I guess you didn't.

[XenHu]

This would be a good time for a vote count. X, I'm not sure if you voted for trestain or not. It wasn't in bold, so I guess you didn't.

No, it was only an FOS.. But seeing as I won't change my mind...

Vote: Trestain

-X

[HoussamTheGreat]

Completely out of context. The only reason I went after autoload was because we were heading towards a no lynch which was the only thing worse than voting our cop off. At the time, my suspicions were around wicked, and I plainly explained that I will switch to anyone the town chooses in order to avoid a no lynch.

THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!!!


How is a no lynch worse than voting off our cop?!?!?!?!

Don't want to double post - but I explained this on the middle of this page (page 84). It's pure math, a no lynch was a disaster. Lynching the cop sucked but there was at least SOME doubt that he would be lying or crazy or whatever - but even if he was not (which I did not think he was) we would at least know we have IC. A no lynch would have given us NOTHING - AND the cop would have been gone anyway since Mafia is not stupid (well in most games they aren't at least) and they would have gone after him at night anyway.

[wicked]

No, Houssam, the doc would've protected him, as Dr. Dussle so eloquently put it, even a noob doc would know the strategy. Then the cop could've investigated another person, and gained that other person's trust, and so on, and so on.

[HoussamTheGreat]

Oh, and by the way - lest we all by the innocence act of Ms. clueless totally confused townie here... I offer to you how she voted me off the last game - where she was indeed Mafia:

"Oh I am so going to catch hell for this... sorry Houssam... I was letting my friendship with you cloud my judgment here. I couldn't stand waiting and had to spend time reading everything posted here today and you do seem suspicious with your actions; it could be noobness or you could just be really smart at this to go unnoticed up until now, and since I know you to be very smart, I have to go with the latter. I wanted to wait until you got on the plane so you wouldn't be mad at me until later.

v*te Houssam

so let's drop the innocence act please dear hubby.... omg I was letting my friendship bla bla bla!! PULEASE!!!

[HoussamTheGreat]

No, Houssam, the doc would've protected him, as Dr. Dussle so eloquently put it, even a noob doc would know the strategy. Then the cop could've investigated another person, and gained that other person's trust, and so on, and so on.

you know, I love it when things are so black and white with you.. because God Forbid that a mafia person would have pretended to be the cop and given the doc a full time job to protect him every night leaving everyone else wide open.. come on!

[wicked]

Dredging up quotes from other games to distract us from this current one? LOL What exactly does this show?

[HoussamTheGreat]

I am going to disappear now for a few hours. back later though... and will read each and every post...

[Machiavelli]

No, Houssam, the doc would've protected him, as Dr. Dussle so eloquently put it, even a noob doc would know the strategy. Then the cop could've investigated another person, and gained that other person's trust, and so on, and so on.

you know, I love it when things are so black and white with you.. because God Forbid that a mafia person would have pretended to be the cop and given the doc a full time job to protect him every night leaving everyone else wide open.. come on!

If he was mafia pretending to be a cop then the real cop would have roleclaimed

[HoussamTheGreat]

If he was mafia pretending to be a cop then the real cop would have roleclaimed

absolutely - which casts doubts on who the doctor needs to protect. My point is it was not as clear as the wicked one is trying to make it. Otherwise the scenario for EVERY game would be the cop claiming it on day 1 - the doc protecting him at night - and a definitive investigation every night. see? not that exciting suddenly is it?

[Machiavelli]

Completely out of context. The only reason I went after autoload was because we were heading towards a no lynch which was the only thing worse than voting our cop off. At the time, my suspicions were around wicked, and I plainly explained that I will switch to anyone the town chooses in order to avoid a no lynch.

THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!!!


How is a no lynch worse than voting off our cop?!?!?!?!

Don't want to double post - but I explained this on the middle of this page (page 84). It's pure math, a no lynch was a disaster. Lynching the cop sucked but there was at least SOME doubt that he would be lying or crazy or whatever - but even if he was not (which I did not think he was) we would at least know we have IC. A no lynch would have given us NOTHING - AND the cop would have been gone anyway since Mafia is not stupid (well in most games they aren't at least) and they would have gone after him at night anyway.

Why did it have to be a choice between a no lynch and the cop?

You could have just voted AK or not voted at all.


And your logic is wrong because your numbers do not take into account that the cop is worth more than a regular townie

[Master Bush]

People, ignore this back and forth between HTG and WICKED. This is some kind of weird role where they try to muddy the waters, and get each other killed. I'm convinced more and more by each post they make.

[wicked]

Houssam you've claimed so many different things on the cop, I've lost track, but here are some:

- we can't ignore he was a cop, anyone who does so is ignorant
- he's going to die, kill him anyway
- I didn't think he was a bad cop
- he could've been mafia, that's why I had to kill him

I'm sure I missed some in there, but it doesn't change the fact you've said whatever about the cop helps your case. Yes, things are black & white IN HINDSIGHT.