Non-VANILLA Game 3 *Game Over* 14 Winners

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:11 am

so that just leads me to believe it was a random kill by the mafia and they still have a janitor

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:19 am

I just remembered something. Hitman before going down and claiming he was SK, said something about sending his night targets but none of them died. Aside for role blocking and doctor protection, are there any non-vanilla roles that have an immunity from SK?

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:28 am

Aegnor wrote:I just remembered something. Hitman before going down and claiming he was SK, said something about sending his night targets but none of them died. Aside for role blocking and doctor protection, are there any non-vanilla roles that have an immunity from SK?

I pretty sure there is a role that is ONLY killable via day lynches. Can't remember what its called though.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:21 am

Syzygy wrote:
Aegnor wrote:I just remembered something. Hitman before going down and claiming he was SK, said something about sending his night targets but none of them died. Aside for role blocking and doctor protection, are there any non-vanilla roles that have an immunity from SK?

I pretty sure there is a role that is ONLY killable via day lynches. Can't remember what its called though.

Unlynchable townie? And the one Aegnor wants is Bulletproof townie.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:23 am

red bull wrote:so who had a beef with anark ........ i dont really remember him fighting any one ........ but then again do we really know that he was town

Doesn't matter about who had beef with him, he's such a good player I'm surprised he lasted this long.

The better question would be which idiot doc do we have not protecting him.

And is there a mafia janitor?

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:27 am

The1exile wrote:
red bull wrote:so who had a beef with anark ........ i dont really remember him fighting any one ........ but then again do we really know that he was town

Doesn't matter about who had beef with him, he's such a good player I'm surprised he lasted this long.

The better question would be which idiot doc do we have not protecting him.

And is there a mafia janitor?

I'm not sure about the doc, we've lost many townies to mafia using the janitor , so one of them could as well been the doc.

Shadowstar · Post by **Shadowstar** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:05 pm

What is wrong with our doc!? Although I THINK he was fighting with someone, don't remember who...

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:07 pm

Yeah, with this many townies dead (and Unknown Roles to boot) we may not have a doc. As for AD being town - the SK is dead, and he was killed by mafia. Barring something weird happening, he's town.

Aegnor wrote:Woahh! AD dead? That's a terrible loss for us, yet again by mafia. Well, as the numbers thin out I think it's easier to make who's scum and who's not.
And since we already lost more townies than non townies I'd say that most of the survivors are scum.

I agree.

Vote: Aegnor

I think you've been acting scummy all game. This is more a gut call than anything else on my part, but... I'm pretty sure of it.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:09 pm

The1exile wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
Aegnor wrote:I just remembered something. Hitman before going down and claiming he was SK, said something about sending his night targets but none of them died. Aside for role blocking and doctor protection, are there any non-vanilla roles that have an immunity from SK?

I pretty sure there is a role that is ONLY killable via day lynches. Can't remember what its called though.

Unlynchable townie? And the one Aegnor wants is Bulletproof townie.

That's not what I said. I said could only be killed by lynches at day.

And, ya. Bulletproof townie is the name I couldn't remember.

Shadowstar · Post by **Shadowstar** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:17 pm

I looked back, got tonkaed had a small disagreement with AD. But it was just slight suspicion, and since hitman was scum it was resolved...

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:30 pm

Syzygy wrote:
The1exile wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
Aegnor wrote:I just remembered something. Hitman before going down and claiming he was SK, said something about sending his night targets but none of them died. Aside for role blocking and doctor protection, are there any non-vanilla roles that have an immunity from SK?

I pretty sure there is a role that is ONLY killable via day lynches. Can't remember what its called though.

Unlynchable townie? And the one Aegnor wants is Bulletproof townie.

That's not what I said. I said could only be killed by lynches at day.

And, ya. Bulletproof townie is the name I couldn't remember.

My apologies, I misread. It's been a long day... careers interiew, french oral examination and calculus to finish... my brain is fried.

Shadowstar · Post by **Shadowstar** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:07 pm

About the janitors, (this is just a wild guess but...) maybe exile is acting innocent when he's asking if there's a janitor. Shouldn't it be obvious by now that there IS one? FOS the1exile

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:10 pm

I think there is, but it could be other alternatuives, e,.g. the inventor role or whatever. Thoguh I think we've had a few hidden roles now, I can't check so easily due to roles not being on the front page.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:40 pm

By now, one of two things is clear. Either we have a janitor, or something strange is happening with the mechanics of the claim.

There aren't any roles besides janitor which can consistently clean up bodies like this. A mafia inventor might get to do it once, but that's it.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:41 pm

Err, typo in the above. Claim -> game. Stupid dyslexia.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:44 pm

Aimless wrote:Yeah, with this many townies dead (and Unknown Roles to boot) we may not have a doc. As for AD being town - the SK is dead, and he was killed by mafia. Barring something weird happening, he's town.

Aegnor wrote:Woahh! AD dead? That's a terrible loss for us, yet again by mafia. Well, as the numbers thin out I think it's easier to make who's scum and who's not.
And since we already lost more townies than non townies I'd say that most of the survivors are scum.

I agree.

Vote: Aegnor

I think you've been acting scummy all game. This is more a gut call than anything else on my part, but... I'm pretty sure of it.

That has to be some hell of a gut feeling there Aimless. There are people here who acted way scummier than me. I'll fos you for time being for being a bit too aggressive for me taste. FOS Aimless

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:46 pm

The last gut call we had got the SK. Just putting that out there.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:47 pm

I wouldn't call Hitman a gut feeling. That guy made terrible mistakes left and right. It was a rational decision rather than gut.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:50 pm

I'll be back with the quotes...

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:54 pm

Aegnor, you've been aggressive all game, but you've always seemed to go after the low-hanging fruit. You've, so far, pushed against sheep, myself (day 1), and Hitman (day 3). You made a case against jnd on day 2, but waited until his lynch was basically assured to do so. I have yet to see you go after anyone for whom there was not already a case being made. (If I'm wrong about this, point me to the page of the appropriate posts.)

This strikes me as a way to push bandwagons without seeming terribly suspicious. Which, in my view, as it seems to be a pattern, looks awfully suspicious.

So, yeah, I've got a pretty strong gut feeling that you're scum.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:54 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:WHAT?!?!?! I AM!!! Hitman is mafia!

Anarkistsdream wrote:
pancakemix wrote:How do you know?

Gut feeling.

Page 86.

Given, Hitman wasn't mafia, but he was still scum. I think you might be making an assumption about gut feelings that they are always wrong.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:55 pm

Oh, and an OMGUS FOS doesn't really help your case.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:28 pm

If you looked 2-3 pages back you could clearly see that I suggested Puff was scum for submarining most of the game. I voted for Hitman for the same reason, he submerged suddenly out of the blue, after I had my vote on you. To refresh everyone's memory I voted you Aimless, for claiming that Mandy's death was meant to frame you.
Sure I've been aggressive most of the game, but not without a case to back me up.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:30 pm

Aegnor wrote:If you looked 2-3 pages back you could clearly see that I suggested Puff was scum for submarining most of the game. I voted for Hitman for the same reason, he submerged suddenly out of the blue, after I had my vote on you. To refresh everyone's memory I voted you Aimless, for claiming that Mandy's death was meant to frame you.
Sure I've been aggressive most of the game, but not without a case to back me up.

Hmm I didn't mean submerge obviously, I meant that Hitman appeared out of nowhere after not posting anything for 50 pages.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:34 pm

Aegnor wrote:If you looked 2-3 pages back you could clearly see that I suggested Puff was scum for submarining most of the game. I voted for Hitman for the same reason, he submerged suddenly out of the blue, after I had my vote on you. To refresh everyone's memory I voted you Aimless, for claiming that Mandy's death was meant to frame you.
Sure I've been aggressive most of the game, but not without a case to back me up.

As I said, you seem to be picking the low-hanging fruits. And you're not the first person to suggest Puff is scum.

Basically, the point is this - despite your aggressive behavior, I have yet to see you make a case against anyone for which an existing case has not been made. I'm reasonably sure you're scum; my vote stands.