[Abandoned] - Russian Revolution

[natty dread]

Well, could you show how the grey ones would look with multiply mode?

[Industrial Helix]

Gray on Multiply:

[bigimg]http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7528/russianrevolutionlargeg.jpg[/bigimg]

And I thought this looked cool.

[bigimg]http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2010/russianrevolutionlargeb.jpg[/bigimg]

[natty dread]

OK the first one is my favorite now. The 2nd one looks cool but it seems a bit too flashy for the theme...

[Industrial Helix]

The 2nd one looks cool but it seems a bit too flashy for the theme...

Agreed, but its still kind of cool.

[Victor Sullivan]

I don't know... I like the second one a lot. It actually gives the borders character - not very prevalent in many other maps.

[Industrial Helix]

The second one is quite cool... but who the hell ever used that for a border in 1917? Lol.

Anyway, I'm running with dashed.

[bigimg]http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/3451/russianrevolutionlarge.jpg[/bigimg]

[ender516]

I find the dashed borders a bit busy, but if you are using them, you missed a few:

all of Volhnyia
Wilno/Lithuania
eastern border of Baltics
almost all of Novgorod
much of Chernigov
much of Kharkovski
northern border of Saratov
Ufa

[theBastard]

I like the cities texture now. the railway from Moscow to Kursk which you tried in one map was better, I think. but not so clear as the current.

the dashed borders are great. and looks pretty historical

it looks that bonus areas (Ukraine, Poland...) have "normal" borders and only regions have dashed ones - this was Helix´s idea, I think.

[natty dread]

I don't know. The moscow area seems a bit unclear and cluttered, this way.

The grey with multiply looked much clearer.

[Industrial Helix]

I think the connections could be worked on to make them more obvious... I'll take a look and see what I can do.

Ender, I intentionally left those solid to signify the end of a certain bonus region.

Overall... I didn't particularly like them gray. They just felt strange to me. If the dashed border continue to be a problem, I'll figure something out.

[Victor Sullivan]

I have to side with the nay-sayers, I'm afraid, Helix. The dashed borders make the map look significantly more cluttered, something you really don't want for a map like this. Also, the army boxes look rather blurry to me for some reason

[ender516]

Yes, unfortunately, the dashed borders look more important than the solid ones. I know it's a lot of work to change them, but maybe the bonus zone borders should be dashed, and the internal ones plain (the plain grey lines weren't bad).

[RjBeals]

I thought cairns had complex maps. Jeeesh.

[theBastard]

some notices to regions names:
Simbirisk - Simbirsk
Cossacks and Kazakh is the same, just Cossacks is plural
Vologoda - Vologda (also Vologda Oblast)
Yaroslav - Yaroslavl
Nizhni - the city is Nizhny Novgorod
Nizhni Novgorod - Kirov could be fine

[natty dread]

The Moscow area still looks a bit cluttery.

How about if you try making the railways grey?

[RjBeals]

this map is 'looking' nice. Extremely confusing, It's very hard to tell borders with all those dashed lines and cross-hatched lines - but at leat the map itself stands out as something different.

[Industrial Helix]

Alright... I'm going to backtrack and just put in the normal border lines. I really don't like the gray lines, so if I can avoid it, I will. Let's try changing up the railroads instead.

[Industrial Helix]

White rails are officially a bad idea:

[bigimg]http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/3451/russianrevolutionlarge.jpg[/bigimg]

[natty dread]

I agree. Why not make them grey? Or try that grey + multiply thing you had on the borders at one point... I think that would work, it would make the rails noticeable but not competing with the borders.

Also, try having the rails go under the borders, not over them.

[Victor Sullivan]

I agree. Why not make them grey? Or try that grey + multiply thing you had on the borders at one point... I think that would work, it would make the rails noticeable but not competing with the borders.

Also, try having the rails go under the borders, not over them.

This. Yes. Good. Do it.

[Industrial Helix]

Hmm yes... all these things might work. I will give them a try.

[Industrial Helix]

[bigimg]http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3451/russianrevolutionlarge.jpg[/bigimg]

Trying to take my mind off the rails and see if anything comes up later. Gray didn't seem to work all that great either.

So basically there are some minor touch ups. I also added army circles under the hatched cities.

Speaking of the cities... I wonder if perhaps a dark shade or something might work better than all those lines.

[natty dread]

How about if you just lower the opacity of the rails?

[Industrial Helix]

That might work.

[theBastard]

what about grey railways?