Flanders 1302V15[Beta] major changes! P19

[DubWarrior]

just saw Roeselaere should go a bit to the left

[natty dread]

Well, IMO the text is looking much better than before.

[thenobodies80]

just saw Roeselaere should go a bit to the left

Agree. You should move also Aalst to the left.
And maybe move up Sint Amands and Valencijn not to have them touching the frame
There are some borders that can be refined....see the spoiler

Nobodies

Spoiler

[DubWarrior]

Hi all, back with an update for the small and large map. Adjusted some border and position of the text.
for those who notice, I also found another setting in my programs to drop the pixelation around the text (something to do with the settings of the resolution for effects and transparency.)

[Industrial Helix]

I'm gonna nitpick but its only because I figure that if I beat the mods to it then it won't be a problem when they visit for the month.

Text could use some nudges...
Small Map:
Amands hits the border... could yuou move it a px to the left.
Move Bethune a tad up so it doesn't hit the borders.
Move Sint Omars up a notch to get it off the border.
Broekburg left a bit.
Roeselare to the upper left.
Groeninge... there's nothing you can do really...
Bergen to the left.
Zierikzee could be moved to the left some.

Your legend overlaps too much. See Rijks Vlanderen and Henegouwen

On the info box, I'd like to see the top line extend past the wavy banner with your name.

Large Map:
Ath a little to the left
Valencijin a tad up
Zierikzee a tad to the left.
Same about the info box extending to the right.

That's about all I see. Beautiful map though. Hope to see it in the FF soon.

Have you got an image with the numbers on it yet? If not, that might be advisable to get out before too long.

[DubWarrior]

thanks, finally some complete stuff to work on...I don't get it with those numbers...I did some XML with the XML wizard i found here in the forum, and took some screenshots (see page 8, in the middle).
but is that the right way to show it, with a screenshot? isn't there a way to link your xml with your map and post it here (like posting the result of your wizard in a post?) get it? sorry for the english, I don't know anything of this xml

cheers!

[Industrial Helix]

That's usually how I do it. For the graphics stage I throw up an image where the actual psd files has a group of layers that are the triple digits. But when its close to xml time, I just take a screenshot of the test to show where the numbers actually will be.

[DubWarrior]

Owkay industrial, back with your updates. mind the changes in the right corner. I wasn't sure about your suggestion. I tried to extend the first line of the text over the banner but that didn't work well (legibility), i tried a different color, a glow etc...finally i cut of some pixels of the banner. I also changed your other suggestions.
cheers! (I don't have time right now to do the screenshots of the xml, sorry)

[Industrial Helix]

Not exactly what I was thinking regarding your banner, but it works anyway so no need to change it any further.

Looking at it now, I think the text on the small map ought to be increased in size... just as much as the square area allows for it. So maybe up a point or two.

Other than that... I think its good. I'd like to see an image with numbers so it can be determined whether or not this thing needs dots... though i suspect its likely that it doesn't.

[RedBaron0]

Sounds good there IH, I'd also suggest redrawing the border between Antwerpen and Middleburg so the border goes around each of the names , especially on the small map, almost the entire border is lost under the names. The Aalst shield has just a slight line in it on the left on the small map. One last thing to try is your signature, the "by" part is kinda redundant; cut that part out and you'll have a little more room for your back story which might look even better.

[DubWarrior]

back with some little changes. I added the last version of the xml and saved a php-file with the the xml checker tool...tnx thenobodies80!
as you notice, I changed some positions of the cities but didn't changed the position of the digits in the xml...
next thing on the to-do list! sorry for that, but it gives already a first impression...

large:



small:

[Coleman]

Once you fix the xml (or change all the art to compensate for the number movement ) you should be really close to ready, there isn't anything I see that I think needs changing. Hope to be playing this map soonish.

[DubWarrior]

Thank you for the enthusiasm. It's always great to hear someone with a higher rank than mine who would like to play on the map

[natty dread]

someone with a higher rank than mine

that's just about everyone, mr. cook


(sorry, couldn't resist. being a sergeant I don't often get the chance to tease people about their ranks)

[The Neon Peon]

I am very glad that this map got finished. There've been quite a lot of really good maps made by non-paying members that left the site. At first I was worried that you would be one of them, but looks like you've gone practically all the way through the process. Congrats.

Let's just hope lack gets faster at uploading finished maps so we can play on this one sooner.

[lt_oddball]

Some terr. names are blocked by the 88 numbers (depends on large or small image):

Roeselaere, Lens,(large) Sint Amands, Bethune, Sint Omaars, (small).

[thenobodies80]

I think you should move up a bit Dowaii and Sint Amands names on the large version, like you did with the small one (not touching the frame), it's an easy fix and you have the space to do it.
It's clear that you have to fix some coordinates, but this work must be done in the Final Forge.

[Industrial Helix]

I think you should move up a bit Dowaii and Sint Amands names on the large version, like you did with the small one (not touching the frame), it's an easy fix and you have the space to do it.
It's clear that you have to fix some coordinates, but this work must be done in the Final Forge.

About time!

[natty dread]

Congrats on the move.

[DubWarrior]

TNX! this realy makes my day! awesome, thanks all for the interest in the map too

[DubWarrior]

Back with another update on the xml and some minor graphic changes. (Beveren was wrong located on the large map, and I forgot a space between Oostervant and +2 in the legend.)
fixed coordinates on the small and large version:

Large:


small:


see first post in the topic for the map without 88-digits.

I was thinking: a +2 bonus for Arras and Brugge, while they are also in a bonusregion; is'nt that bit too heavy and too easy to capture the adjacent bonusregion once you dropped a lot of troops on these cities? even when they start with a neutral +5...
would'nt it be better (correct me if I'm wrong) to change it this way: Brugge and Arras do'nt make part of any bonusregion, but gain an +2 bonus once you captured it from the neutral 5? Just an idea and a bit late to come up with, I know
it could look like this:

SMALL Alternative


cheers!
Dub

[MrBenn]

DubWarrior - this is looking very good.

I'll have a close look over the next couple of days; but I don;t see any major hurdles keeping this back from Beta. I'll review some of those bonuses for you too

[DubWarrior]

Thanks a lot, some feedback on the XML and the alternative bonus would be very welcome!

[natty dread]

Yeah I think the alternate version makes sense.

Alternatively, you could make it so that they give an extra bonus when held together with the bonus region...

Example:

Artesie +4
Artesie & Arras +6

[DubWarrior]

I understand, but doesn't that bring back the original problem: I player gains to much power in Brugge or Arras could easily conquer the whole region. If you add another bonus combining Arras and Artesië, you only give to that player an extra boost? A bit much I think?
I try to start a poll...
cheers!