ATTENTION US service men and women

[thegreekdog]

The government was not the beneficiary. The government responds to pressure. And, out right theivery by governments is rather frowned upon lately. Now they have to be more circumspect.

besides, if the government did cease anything, they would have to resell it at cost, the government is generally forbidden from taking any profit. The government gains in other ways.

I really dislike when you ignore my statements and argue something completely different.

What I typed was that if, in fact, the purpose of the Iraq War was to create a profit for oil companies, there are much simpler ways to do it (for example, SEIZING THE OIL AND GIVING IT TO OIL COMPANIES) than "hey, let's help the oil companies out by creating some dischord in the region, thus raising oil prices and ensuring that our party will not be re-elected to the presidency or to power in Congress for the foreseeable future.")

[MeDeFe]

The government was not the beneficiary. The government responds to pressure. And, out right theivery by governments is rather frowned upon lately. Now they have to be more circumspect.

besides, if the government did cease anything, they would have to resell it at cost, the government is generally forbidden from taking any profit. The government gains in other ways.

I really dislike when you ignore my statements and argue something completely different.

What I typed was that if, in fact, the purpose of the Iraq War was to create a profit for oil companies, there are much simpler ways to do it (for example, SEIZING THE OIL AND GIVING IT TO OIL COMPANIES) than "hey, let's help the oil companies out by creating some dischord in the region, thus raising oil prices and ensuring that our party will not be re-elected to the presidency or to power in Congress for the foreseeable future.")

"Seizing the oil" would actually have been quite difficult I think. I have a hard time envisioning the US army securing the oil fields and routes to the sea while US American oil companies get the oil out of the ground and ship it out of Iraq escorted by the navy. A volatile market seems like a much easier method.

I'm not saying this was the purpose of the war against Iraq, but it was certainly a nice by-product. Nice for any oil company, that is.

[notyou2]

im a united states marine and i happen to hate hear everyone bad mouth not only our country but specifically accusing marines and soldiers of atrocities that for one go against everything ive ever learned in the corps

anyone care to vent?

Well I've been a space marine for many more years than I haven't and I am fed up with all you straight laced people telling me that the affects of LSD, and pot, and coke, and hash, and psylocibin, and opium, and mescaline, and, well you get the drift, are bad for you and have a harmful effect on your mentality.

I'll have you know I have been on the front lines defending this planet from the invading space mutants from Nebulon 5 for all these years and if I wasn't we would all be mindless zombies working for the nefarious Nebulon 5 government.

Where's the thanks? All I hear are you lefty commies spewing diatribe about "leave the poor Nebulon 5 civies alone". Don't you get it, they are the ones pulling the strings of the Nebulon 5 military arm.

Anyone else care to vent?

Ah: a puritan who's never taken speed.

Speed is really bad for you.

[PLAYER57832]

The government was not the beneficiary. The government responds to pressure. And, out right theivery by governments is rather frowned upon lately. Now they have to be more circumspect.

besides, if the government did cease anything, they would have to resell it at cost, the government is generally forbidden from taking any profit. The government gains in other ways.

I really dislike when you ignore my statements and argue something completely different.

What I typed was that if, in fact, the purpose of the Iraq War was to create a profit for oil companies, there are much simpler ways to do it (for example, SEIZING THE OIL AND GIVING IT TO OIL COMPANIES) than "hey, let's help the oil companies out by creating some dischord in the region, thus raising oil prices and ensuring that our party will not be re-elected to the presidency or to power in Congress for the foreseeable future.")

"Seizing the oil" would actually have been quite difficult I think. I have a hard time envisioning the US army securing the oil fields and routes to the sea while US American oil companies get the oil out of the ground and ship it out of Iraq escorted by the navy. A volatile market seems like a much easier method.

I'm not saying this was the purpose of the war against Iraq, but it was certainly a nice by-product. Nice for any oil company, that is.

Exactly.

[PLAYER57832]

On the "just war" concept:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_War

I find the notations ironic, however, because while the Just War concept certainly originated with the Roman Catholic church, prior to the Reformation, it has been heavily used by Martin Luther, etc.

anyway, that is getting pretty far off topic. Just wanted to put forward the original concept of the "just war" for comparison.

[mpjh]

we now have the "just war" for compensation

[joecoolfrog]

So what makes a war just in your opinion?

For a start one that isn't motivated by corporate or individual profit.

Hey man, if I profit from such a way, it's a just war.

I guess from your point of view, the Iraq War must be a just war, since really no one has profited.

Nice joke

[PLAYER57832]

we now have the "just war" for compensation

Ever study Hawaiian history? They offer a plenty interesting example. I have heard similar things about the Spanish American war, but know little about that.