[Official] HP Mafia - MVP: Aage - Archive

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

Streaker - Pixar
Ragian - tonka, Daz, sempai, mtam, Streaker, aage, Endgame, mitch (L-2)
Endgame - dd

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch

[charm]

Fine, I'm in to getting this over with. I think there has been plenty of reason to vote Rage. I do not believe the Dumbledore with Lumos at all. Dumbledore would have had way more powerful tool. Even pulling a memory from his head would have been more valuable.

VOTE RAGE

[degaston]

Why are you, the experienced player, asking me, the new guy who fails logic, what you should do?

Because you won't listen to what I bring up? Duh?

Why would I listen to you? I think you're probably scum. I'm sorry that aage decided to leave for the day, so you have no one to agree with and defend you, but that's not my problem. If you have something useful to say, then say it. Present your case, or try to logically refute mine (no ad hominems, please), but don't keep asking me what I think about this or that.

[StorrZerg]

Someone unvote.

Deg the whole point is to get others talking. I'm trying to help nurture other useful discussion and you have admitted anything I say about wings death will mean nothing to you.



Tambo pushed the useful idea of everyone gives additional reads. You can argue what he suggested is a bad idea.

And many people are dodging that, and doing nothing, watching you bicker with me.

[got tonkaed]

unvote

I wish I was the optimist that storr was in terms of people coming in and presenting who they think scum are.

[StorrZerg]

Some have, look at dd5 pushing end.

Deg pushing aage/storr

Who did you name got? Can you link your case thanks.

[got tonkaed]

Mine would be Mudpuppy. I am not good at linking multiple quotes but my rationale is that most of his posting has been low/no content posting. I felt like his buddying up to strike when he made his "we need a new leader" post and saying it should be strike was pretty blatantly trying to align himself with an outed townie role.

[StorrZerg]

@charm. Request you get an answer from the mod about yesterday. Could you have posted, or did you just assume you couldn't. You haven't given a hard answer on this.

[StorrZerg]

@Got what about a town read that's not one of the claimed.

[got tonkaed]

Nice to see your Patronus still goes where you point, Semp. I was a bit worried about that despite your statement.

This post also struck me as just repeating what you said storr. I don't really think like townies need to try to dress up content that someone else as already posted. You were already asking about his vote and kept posting about it in the following posts.

[got tonkaed]

@Got what about a town read that's not one of the claimed.

Aage to me is town. Degaston has decided to drum up some large level conspiracy with the two of you, which only makes sense if you are a 3rd party recruiter or something like wing hinted at.

Seeing as how i dont think a cult would be able to kill, it seems unlikely to me that is the case, so by extension aage is probably just defending against what he thinks is a dumb daily hunt against a 3p survivor.

[StorrZerg]

I think we might have a 3rd survivor. ........ no joke lol

[got tonkaed]

Honestly I think that is fairly possible. It is a large game and if there is some kind of a cult at work (which may be possible but may also not be) it makes sense for there to be 3p. We don't really have an alignment cop unless we are about to lynch them. It would be pretty rough on town if the cop could only say non-town though if there are third party survivors. Having said that, I don't think we are lynching the cop so maybe there is still someone out there who can help.

I'm more worried that people lurking and going "oh noes so many pages!!!" like Talapus are scummy rather than a cop hiding out.

[StorrZerg]

So got, why was wing killed? Any ideas?

[got tonkaed]

I don't know that he was as close to anything as you were implying earlier. To me reading back through what he was saying, he was more or less just trying to generate content, not necessarily zeroing in on anyone specific.

I'd say it is more likely it was someone who knew Wing and decided they didn't want another person leading town, than someone worried about their back (though it is possible he uncovered something - but for instance I don't know that a cult would have a kill, so his post about being worried about that, shouldn't have gotten him killed)

[StorrZerg]

Well just eliminate mets strike skill.

It leaves a few names. Which one might be scared of wing pushing on them?

[got tonkaed]

You, me or Pixar on a full re-read.

You if you are the cult recruiter.

Me if I am worried that he has linked me and Mudpuppy.

Pixar if he is worried about his fake claim not holding up.

Those would be the reasons I could see, but to be honest, a lot of his D2 content was going after Mets/Strike, which turned out to be pretty far off.

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

Streaker - Pixar
Ragian - Daz, sempai, mtam, Streaker, aage, Endgame, mitch, charm (L-2)
Endgame - dd

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch

[dd515087]

Its not meaning to destroy your case, it just helps to get your perspective on the way things are going. Why you don't understand why wing died, why you can't see how he was playing pro town. Your read of him being slightly scummy isn't justified because he flipped 3rd party either. Facts are a clear anti town faction wanted him dead, and killed him. Hence they must have saw him as a threat. Therefor, just because he flipped 3rd party, doesn't mean we go and dismiss wing, his reads etc. Even if he didn't care about his reads, and it was all bs, the mafia still felt his reads struck a cord.

Actually to this point isn't just addressed at you, but the rest of the game. hardly any talk was done on why wing died, and because of that i think its because he was sniffing about mafia. I would think if mafia killed him to frame someone, they would have been a bit more vocal today about who he was looking to lynch.

No I disagree with this second part, deg didn't really give too much time for mafia to do this

[Ragian]

Rage scum slipped on sempai, says he vote steals lololol

You're pushing something that's not there. I'm stating that the fact that he can't vote (combined with charm's few thoughts on what happened to her) argues for a vote steal. As other have pointed out. Don't be an idiot.

The rest was just scum trying to get the day overwith (streaker), scum getting their "let's get rid of dumbledore" votes in, and stor jerking off to himself.

[StorrZerg]

Sure I miss took that.
Why didn't you push harder on me yesterday?

[Talapus]

Mine would be Mudpuppy. I am not good at linking multiple quotes but my rationale is that most of his posting has been low/no content posting. I felt like his buddying up to strike when he made his "we need a new leader" post and saying it should be strike was pretty blatantly trying to align himself with an outed townie role.

I understand this, but would you not be as suspicious if he tried to buddy up with storr instead? Or do you think you'd be more open about it if chips fell the other way? I ask because yes it looked bad but honestly had he tried the same tactic with storr I think I'd feel the same. Especially because if there is a recruiter storr would have been the way to go that was a safe recruit. Storr could keep playing same way as he has and no one would be the wiser.

[StorrZerg]

If I'm recruited it's because tambo is the recruiter

[got tonkaed]

If I'm recruited it's because tambo is the recruiter

Most of the stuff I was posting in regards to cult was essentially Wing's argument. I would also agree with the idea that if you flipped cult it would cause mtam to be under question but people apparently hate the idea that he could be anything other than HP.

[Talapus]

If I'm recruited it's because tambo is the recruiter

Most of the stuff I was posting in regards to cult was essentially Wing's argument. I would also agree with the idea that if you flipped cult it would cause mtam to be under question but people apparently hate the idea that he could be anything other than HP.

I might, might buy the fact that HP could get recruited. Hell with all the claimed town God knows it would be a safe bet. But I would have to think R and H, his two best friends wouldn't notice or say something. I guess unless HP was flipped and they can all talk to each other at night or something and have agreed to flip the other two because town would never lynch top 3 or something.

But seriously with no one else claiming HP and now now one else claiming Dumbledore, I'm not sure I am willing to go down the road that the 2 best roles in the whole damn series are in fact really good fake claims.....it's just really hard to swallow.