Joint Terror Task Force Mafia Day 3 - All is Well!

[LSU Tiger Josh]

i believe jak and see noo problem with the info withheld since it would throw scum for a loop not knowing the other stuff he could do

[NoSurvivors]

i believe jak and see noo problem with the info withheld since it would throw scum for a loop not knowing the other stuff he could do

It is an interesting claim indeed.

1) He could be a regular town inventor.
2) He could be a regular mafia inventor, lieing about his result.
3) he could be a town False inventor, which is unlikely because why would he say I am scum if he knows I'm a doc.
4) He could be a mafia false inventor, for obvious reasons is very unlikely.
5) In my opinion since I'm the only one who knows 100% (with good reasons for not believing me, of course), he could be a mafia, being full of crap, trying to get the town to lynch a power role.

I'll say this, though. He could like you said LSU be throwing the mafia off, or he could be mafia throwing the town off. But Jak, has it not occurred to you that we might both be town, arguing that the other should be lunched for being "scummy" when really the mafia are sitting pretty laughing at us behind the screens? Lol, honestly if you turn out good and one of us is lynched (likely to be me since everyone seems to believe YOU), I'm going to say that the mafia is likely going to win. Whoevers lynched is gone and the other will be killed by the mafia tonight. Now, assuming you're town, that means you're either a false inventor that doesn't know it, or there is a bus driver who wants me dead which does not make sense at all (I'm assuming it's CB since I haven't heard from him in a while.

[vodean]

ok. im sold on jak being town for now. but how do we know the info he got was accurate? i think we need to lynch NoS for sure, but what happens if NoS does flip doc? we need to make sure here.

[DoomYoshi]

ok. im sold on jak being town for now. but how do we know the info he got was accurate? i think we need to lynch NoS for sure, but what happens if NoS does flip doc? we need to make sure here.

Why not unvote?

[NoSurvivors]

ok. im sold on jak being town for now. but how do we know the info he got was accurate? i think we need to lynch NoS for sure, but what happens if NoS does flip doc? we need to make sure here.

Why not unvote?

Probably forgot lol

[vodean]

ok. im sold on jak being town for now. but how do we know the info he got was accurate? i think we need to lynch NoS for sure, but what happens if NoS does flip doc? we need to make sure here.

Why not unvote?

Probably forgot lol

unvote vote NoS

[jgordon1111]

ok. im sold on jak being town for now. but how do we know the info he got was accurate? i think we need to lynch NoS for sure, but what happens if NoS does flip doc? we need to make sure here.

any suggestions on how we make sure of this?

If NoS flips scum,you can bet his scum mate(s) is an experienced player to get him to claim doc and try to pull it off,again I ask does campin killer supply possible fake claims in his games?

[DiM]

does campin killer supply possible fake claims in his games?

well, as it turns out this is the only mafia game hosted by campin that actually got started.
i found 4 other games by him in the archives but none of them was started.
so there's really no meta on what kind of a mod he is.

[vodean]

so we lynch doom, LSU, hippo, and IB if he flips scum?

[Iron Butterfly]

ok. im sold on jak being town for now. but how do we know the info he got was accurate? i think we need to lynch NoS for sure, but what happens if NoS does flip doc? we need to make sure here.

any suggestions on how we make sure of this?

If NoS flips scum,you can bet his scum mate(s) is an experienced player to get him to claim doc and try to pull it off,again I ask does campin killer supply possible fake claims in his games?

NOS was forced to claim day one so its not like there was a chance to discuss the situation.

You are trying so hard to sound Town aren't you?
lol.

You can not lynch the Doc at this point with the info we have.

I want to hear from Doom and the other quiet folk.

[jak111]

PS: i was an experimenter in a game. very interesting role and somewhat similar to inventor. the difference was that my actions varied according to the role of the target not according to the item used. i'll look it up and post more info when i find the thread.

LOL. Just give ya a minute and you'll remember XD.

Nice defense NoS, so you claim if you're lynched and I'm night killed town will automatically lose? Why? Threats wont help you here, and again, stop skipping over the medic part... just to make sure it's not missed this next part is for NoS ONLY....

NoSurvivors, What is a medic and how exactly does your role work? Am I right to say that it does not seem to be the traditional doc?

Alright, that should get his attention... if not... better send him some glasses.

As far as my credibility goes it will either go up or down with the lynch/death of NoS. It'll go up if he flips scum like my result says, but it will go down if he does not. Glad people can make sense of me holding back a bit of information, especially when I wasn't forced to tell you what I've done.

The whole liar thing you're trying to pull DiM only works on those who have been pressured and a claim is a must from them or they'll die. A simple townie outing his information on D2 is not under such an influence no matter how others wish to distort it.

Fasposted x2. @Vodean, where did you draw that conclusion?
@IB, Medic* Not doc, he did not claim doc, I want this perfectly clear

[DiM]

The whole liar thing you're trying to pull DiM ....

look, i don't see why you're getting so worked up about this.
please, don't take it on a personal level or even consider the liar thing in a pejorative manner.
come on, i've talked to you in chat, you're a cool dude and i mean no disrespect.

let's put it this way, hopefully i'll make myself clearer.
regardless of how this game goes, if in a future game i'll see you claim i'll always have to take into consideration that you might be withholding information. as i said, it's the first time i see town doing that. in fact i even remember somebody saying that on this forum townies are always truthful (might be wrong but i think it was IB saying that)

[DoomYoshi]

What do you want to hear more from me about?

- NoS can hang today, I am fine with that.

- jgordon proves again that even if he has a town role, he is not beneficial to town as a player

- DiM is my next best target, but that case will wait until tomorrow (nothing you say will bring it out of me today)

[jak111]

The whole liar thing you're trying to pull DiM ....

look, i don't see why you're getting so worked up about this.
please, don't take it on a personal level or even consider the liar thing in a pejorative manner.
come on, i've talked to you in chat, you're a cool dude and i mean no disrespect.

let's put it this way, hopefully i'll make myself clearer.
regardless of how this game goes, if in a future game i'll see you claim i'll always have to take into consideration that you might be withholding information. as i said, it's the first time i see town doing that. in fact i even remember somebody saying that on this forum townies are always truthful (might be wrong but i think it was IB saying that)

Like I mentioned in my earlier post, this is a game, everyone except the person that we will not speak of is alright with me. But while in game, I need to take on a defensive state at all times until I'm proven town. Mafia will try to frame those who do not defend themselves. As far as the game goes, for all I know, you could be mafia trying to lightly deflect pressure onto me (Maybe you don't realize it) which isn't pulled off that badly. However, until proven otherwise, I got my eye on you every time you try.

At this point I do not believe you to be scum, however, I will not rule it out neither. Sometimes I forget that you're still learning here and the subtle things you might not pay much attention to yet. No, if you were Doom or any of the veterans that have been here longer than I, I would put an FoS on ya, but you barely notice your own actions at this point XD.

If I survive until tomorrow, I will save whatever I have until everyone has had the chance to speak, because hopefully with what unknown powers I have left, I can catch someone in an action lie.

As for the hints on items.. all I got are invention numbers... So unless there's a method of figuring out which order he put powers in and which powers MAY or may not be in there is hard. As far as I know from the cop result I am told what my action did in the morning, but not until then.

Some other 1 shot possibilities I came up with thinking about are

Silencer
Roleblocker
Commuter (Except it works on the person I target?)
A type of busdrive that would drive me and the person I target

and there are a few others that I can't pin down yet or have already mentioned, but this isn't going to be easy.

If it helps with figuring out a pattern my inventions are
1
2 ~ Used. Was 1-shot cop.
3
A
B

I'm not sure if the A or B have any important quality and why they aren't just 4 and 5, but I'll test one out tonight and see if there's anything good/bad about the letter inventions.

Fastposted by Doom.

[jgordon1111]

ok. im sold on jak being town for now. but how do we know the info he got was accurate? i think we need to lynch NoS for sure, but what happens if NoS does flip doc? we need to make sure here.

any suggestions on how we make sure of this?

If NoS flips scum,you can bet his scum mate(s) is an experienced player to get him to claim doc and try to pull it off,again I ask does campin killer supply possible fake claims in his games?

NOS was forced to claim day one so its not like there was a chance to discuss the situation.

You are trying so hard to sound Town aren't you?
lol.

You can not lynch the Doc at this point with the info we have.

I want to hear from Doom and the other quiet folk.

Hmmm IB your not letting go, The reason I sound like town would be the obvious answer, we have a joat who claims he caught the claimed doc in a guilty.

And your wifom brings you back to me why?

I played a gambit to see if anyone would bite,and shortly I reminded all to try and make sure we didnt sidetrack an ongoing investigation that hadnt been concluded.

You bit and now despite the fact most are looking for answers you are trying to point to me and drawing away from an ongoing investigation,IB earlier I thought you were just checking to see if I was scum,now you are acting scummy.

yep I quick claimed I usually will if I have nothing to hide,this has aggravated some of you in the past. It is for towns benefit when I do.

But there is a constant here,NO one can say I ever lied about who I was when I did.

Now i say this we can settle with each other after we get to the bottom of what the deal is with Jak and Nos.

At this point one is lying, I have an idea of who it is maybe,and want them to keep talking just a little more.

Or do you want to keep beating this drum now. I suggest if you do there is possibly an ulterior motive. thats just me wifoming you back for now.

fastposted by Jak.

[vodean]

i think medic is probably the same thing. medics respond to emergencies and bombs, etc.

my previous post was sarcastic at the experienced player thing.

unvote

i just want to point out that Doom seems to be ok with any lynch, no matter who the target is.
i also realize that i am doing the same, but i am doing it as much to catch people out as anything. so just noted, and not FOS'ed

FP a whole bunch.

i also think its interesting how jgor is pushing attention away from himself and onto NoS and jak

[NoSurvivors]

1) Vode is correct, I guess campin just wanted it to relate to the story, it does the exact same thing as a doc, thus I keep calling it doc lol.

2) Jak, I'm saying that's 2 townies in 1 day, then that leaves 2-3 mafias with 5-6 townies... those aren't great odds in my books (though don't count my word for it, lol.) That's why I said its probably over.. because that's an excellent day for the mafia and a horrid day for the scum.

[DiM]

everyone except the person that we will not speak of is alright with me.

so we're cool. no hurt feelings and all that, right? i do have a record of getting on people's nerves even when i don't intend to

If it helps with figuring out a pattern my inventions are
1
2 ~ Used. Was 1-shot cop.
3
A
B

I'm not sure if the A or B have any important quality and why they aren't just 4 and 5, but I'll test one out tonight and see if there's anything good/bad about the letter inventions.

as for your items i kinda doubt there would be a pattern, in the sense that watcher is first cop second and doc third or anything like that.
what makes me wonder is the numbers followed by letters thing.
that one is weird.
you said you want to try A or B tonight. to be honest i'd advise going with 1 or 3.
i mean if #2 was a cop, which is a good action, then chances are 1 & 3 are also good actions while A & B might be bad actions.
of course it could all be just a way of the mod messing with you (and us).

[vodean]

everyone except the person that we will not speak of is alright with me.

so we're cool. no hurt feelings and all that, right? i do have a record of getting on people's nerves even when i don't intend to

If it helps with figuring out a pattern my inventions are
1
2 ~ Used. Was 1-shot cop.
3
A
B

I'm not sure if the A or B have any important quality and why they aren't just 4 and 5, but I'll test one out tonight and see if there's anything good/bad about the letter inventions.

as for your items i kinda doubt there would be a pattern, in the sense that watcher is first cop second and doc third or anything like that.
what makes me wonder is the numbers followed by letters thing.
that one is weird.
you said you want to try A or B tonight. to be honest i'd advise going with 1 or 3.
i mean if #2 was a cop, which is a good action, then chances are 1 & 3 are also good actions while A & B might be bad actions.
of course it could all be just a way of the mod messing with you (and us).

maybe a and b relate in some way. like A is a role-delayer or blocker or something, and then B transfers the action or something.

[jgordon1111]

i think medic is probably the same thing. medics respond to emergencies and bombs, etc.

my previous post was sarcastic at the experienced player thing.

unvote

i just want to point out that Doom seems to be ok with any lynch, no matter who the target is.
i also realize that i am doing the same, but i am doing it as much to catch people out as anything. so just noted, and not FOS'ed

FP a whole bunch.

i also think its interesting how jgor is pushing attention away from himself and onto NoS and jak

Not in the least vodean,I am in the light now,but an investigation was ongoing and it needs settled or cleared first.

Coming back to me is always easy.

[NoSurvivors]

everyone except the person that we will not speak of is alright with me.

Who am I now, Voldemort? Lmao

[jak111]

everyone except the person that we will not speak of is alright with me.

Who am I now, Voldemort? Lmao

I was referring to a person who is now perma-banned, not you.

[NoSurvivors]

everyone except the person that we will not speak of is alright with me.

Who am I now, Voldemort? Lmao

I was referring to a person who is now perma-banned, not you.

OH! Who got banned?? Someone in here?

[vodean]

everyone except the person that we will not speak of is alright with me.

Who am I now, Voldemort? Lmao

I was referring to a person who is now perma-banned, not you.

OH! Who got banned?? Someone in here?

and that is why the forum needs a facepalm emoticon.

[DoomYoshi]

i just want to point out that Doom seems to be ok with any lynch, no matter who the target is.

Proof?