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Of course, the idea that cannabis has no adverse effects is a fallacious one. There is absolutely no intoxicating substances that have no adverse effects.

Like with all substances, the usage of cannabis comes down to moderation. If you can't use it with moderation, you shouldn't use it at all. Which is true with every substance.

These days, I can use cannabis & alcohol with moderation pretty well. I don't drink to get wasted, only something like 2-3 ciders when I drink (which is not often) and I also smoke rarely these days, and not too much at a time.

Cannabis is far from a harmless drug. It can be harmful if used in excess. Although, I don't think it causes any long term damage... when you stop smoking, you tend to be pretty much normal in a month or so. Anyway, it's a lot less harmful than a lot of other substances people use. For example, injecting meth in your eyeballs is more harmful. Oh, and alcohol, in most ways, can be considered more harmful. Tobacco is more harmful for sure. Coffee is pretty harmful too. Tea causes testicle cancer. Not to mention sugar...

Shit, there's not a lot of things that aren't harmful in this life. The key is enjoying harmful things in moderation.
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"But it's to get high!" "It makes you feel goooood."
What's the point in drinking alcohol, or coffee? Sure, there's people who get snobby about how some fucking 100 year old red wine has a fucking magnificient bucket or something, and don't even get me started on those nuts who drink coffee that comes out of a cat's arse because it tastes sooo smooooove. But basically, we drink that wine because it has alcohol that makes us feel high. We drink that coffee because it has caffeine that makes us feel more alert and energized.

Similarly, we hit that bong because it makes us see the inherent beauty of the universe, also because it makes everything seem funny. And it makes you feel kinda good.

So why, you ask? I think it comes down to human behaviour: there's an inherent need in us to experience altered states of mind. We have been getting high as long as we have existed. It's not even a purely human behaviour, since animals have been known to "get high" too... cats get high on catnip, etc.
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Once in a while a topic about weed is bound to pop up. You guys sure like your fair share of weed.
Since I'm from Holland, I was raised with weed. My mom took me to coffeeshops when I was 8 (had to wait outside though). She smoked weed every day during her pregnancy of me to get her to sleep. She quit now, but I haven't. I wouldn't really blame this on Dutch culture, but it sure is very easy to get the weed.

I'd prefer it if they made it completely legal (which it isn't right now, unlike most people think), so they can regulate the amounts of THC. The weed is getting stronger and stronger in Holland. Foreign weed doesn't do the trick for me anymore. This isn't good at all though. Whenever I hang out in a coffeeshop I always see tourists sleeping or going outside to vomit. That can't be the reason you smoke weed. Tourists start the evening with having fun, laughing and enjoying their time, but by the time they smoked their second joint the laughter becomes whispering and if they smoke more they turn into emotionless zombies. It is meant as recreational, but it's hard to call it that, when weed does this to people.
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JBlombier wrote:Once in a while a topic about weed is bound to pop up. You guys sure like your fair share of weed.
Since I'm from Holland, I was raised with weed. My mom took me to coffeeshops when I was 8 (had to wait outside though). She smoked weed every day during her pregnancy of me to get her to sleep. She quit now, but I haven't. I wouldn't really blame this on Dutch culture, but it sure is very easy to get the weed.
You make this sound normal, but mother's shouldn't smoke weed.

Anyway, I enjoy smoking weed a lot, I smoke almost every day.
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karelpietertje wrote: You make this sound normal, but mother's shouldn't smoke weed.
Agreed.
JBlombier wrote:The weed is getting stronger and stronger in Holland. Foreign weed doesn't do the trick for me anymore. This isn't good at all though.
Aren't you guys pretty much smoking pure THC crystal there by now?
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karelpietertje wrote:You make this sound normal, but mother's shouldn't smoke weed.
It wasn't my intention to make it sound normal. It just shows how easy it is to get weed.
natty_dread wrote:Aren't you guys pretty much smoking pure THC crystal there by now?
You could if you would want to. But (obviously, if you ask me) you don't want pure THC crystal.
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JBlombier wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Aren't you guys pretty much smoking pure THC crystal there by now?
You could if you would want to. But (obviously, if you ask me) you don't want pure THC crystal.
No. I'd much rather smoke some nepalese temple hash. That's got to be the best stuff I ever smoked.

Never tried pure THC, but I imagine the high would be kinda harsh.
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The reason I smoke weed? To ease my mind of everything. Speaking of the "emotionless zombie" aspect that you mentioned, I love it when I smoke so much I become emotionless. Because really I'm just exploring the universe when that happens. Or just using 39% of my brain instead of the 10% we use.
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UCAbears wrote:Or just using 39% of my brain instead of the 10% we use.
That's bullshit. The whole 10% thing is a myth.
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UCAbears wrote:The reason I smoke weed? To ease my mind of everything.
There's also a reason it's called dope. Two big problems with weed in the USA?
It's illegal with harsh consequences and ridiculously over priced.

For a mind altering experience? LSD. I doubt such stuff has existed in a pure enough
state to make it worth touching in the last thirty years. Unless your next door neighbor
was Owsley Stanley --who passed away earlier this year-- or Albert Hofmann.
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oVo wrote:I doubt such stuff has existed in a pure enough
state to make it worth touching in the last thirty years.
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oVo wrote: For a mind altering experience? LSD. I doubt such stuff has existed in a pure enough
state to make it worth touching in the last thirty years. Unless your next door neighbor
was Owsley Stanley --who passed away earlier this year-- or Albert Hofmann.
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Acid is still available. It's just way less popular, and way more expensive. LSD is a once-a-year thing for me nowadays: far too much of a time commitment for someone as busy as I am.

Pot, on the other hand....

Preferred ingestion method: blunts. A remnant of my tobacco addiction, I suppose.

Although, I do have some very nice hash, and I had (very surprisingly) not heard of the mentioned, glass-over-hash method, so I may have to give that a go this evening.
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It probably requires a lot of good weed
to be a Mets Fan these days.
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The best LSD was the liquid at the Dead shows.

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I've tried MJ.

It's the only thing I would smoke, but I lack a source. Maybe I should visit the Netherlands... can I crash at someone's place?
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MeDeFe wrote:I've tried MJ.

It's the only thing I would smoke, but I lack a source. Maybe I should visit the Netherlands... can I crash at someone's place?
Yes... but I don't live in the Netherlands.
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notyou2 wrote:The best LSD was the liquid at the Dead shows.

*sigh*
*OLD ALERT OLD ALERT*
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MeDeFe wrote:I've tried MJ.

It's the only thing I would smoke, but I lack a source. Maybe I should visit the Netherlands... can I crash at someone's place?
Get a weed club card.

Just found out one of my childhood friends is a legal grower. Looks like I'm gonna be hitting the shake for a while.
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Drugs are illegal and unhealthy. You guys are all stupid losers who deserve to beat raped by a rhinoceros.
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You're naturally twisted AoG and don't need any artificial stimulus.
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oVo wrote:You're naturally twisted AoG and don't need any artificial stimulus.
Pretty much.
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You'll all be very pleased to know that it is another month on and I still haven't bought any weed!

Positive effects:

1. I've won 16 of my last 20 cc games. (most important for the GD regular)
2. I'm getting on better with my wife. (naturally less important than the wins for the GD regular!!)
3. I actually wrote some extremely funny stuff sober...(quite important for keeping me off the weed...I was worried about that)
4. I'm in general much happier, less paranoid, doing my job better too.
5. My appetite has come back and am back to my perfect weight.
6. I only smoke now when spoon pops over for some Halo action...just a quick hoof on a pipe about twice a week...and I enjoy the high much more now.

Negative effects:

1. I really miss rolling a joint on my balcony (with the perpetual sunshine of Changsha streaming in), curling up on my sofa...yep I put a sofa on my balcony...and reading a good book for an hour or two. I've always loved reading high. This is a big miss.
2. I still can't enjoy playing computer games sober. So my 360 lies dormant and basically unloved.
3. I miss walking about Changsha blitzed*. When high it takes on all the properties of a video game..dodging cars, buses, taxis, obstacles, falling masonry. Now it is just simply frightening... it used to be fun.
4. I miss playing speed games...almost every speed game I have ever played I have been either very drunk, hugely stoned or, on a couple of memorable occasions, totally blitzed* on ecstacy.
5. I miss watching tv (online tv in China naturally). Again, without the weed I can't keep my attention on them. Watching the latest season of Doctor Who and I REALLY WISH I was watching it high. So much better high.
6. I'm caring about my rank again (notice the 16 in 20 wins) and this is a pity...I'll zip up to around 3,000, have a masochistic impulse, collapse my rank, regret it...and probably start smoking up again.

Life is a fucking cycle.

I'll check in about another month with the latest, pointless (as if I care!!) Mr C Weed Update.
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I'm not a fan of smoking anything, weed especially. I'm an advocate for legalizing it, but I still wouldn't use any. I can act retarded, think deep, etc. without outside stimulus. I don't drink either, or really take in much caffeine. Almost all my friends from high school drink and or smoke weed now, and I'm personally disappointed with it. I don't plan on telling them that, or changing high school friends (since that's impossible now) but it just makes me kind of sad. I'm just not super comfortable with drugs or alcohol. I've thought about it before, but my conclusions were always to not do it. I just don't see the point. I can do everything they're doing without the drug stimulus just fine.
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Army of GOD wrote:Drugs are illegal and unhealthy. You guys are all stupid losers who deserve to beat raped by a rhinoceros.
I deserve to beat raped by a rhinoceros? Does it hurt to beat raped?
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oVo wrote:It probably requires a lot of good weed
to be a Mets Fan these days.
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Haven't been a Mets fan in a couple years now
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