If homosexuality is a choice...

[InkL0sed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

A new review made in 2009 of existing research showed that same-sex behavior is a nearly universal phenomenon in the animal kingdom, common across species.

ALL OF NATURE IS UNNATURAL

Yea, but I don't think that's a completely valid comparison, considering we can think complexly. Not that I'm saying heterosexuality IS the natural thing. There IS not natural state.

Some people think killing innocent people is "naturally" or innately immoral. Yet some animals have no problem killing their siblings, parents, life partners, etc.

Essentially, you're saying it's possible for something that's "natural" to be immoral. Sure, I guess that's true. But Night Strike is saying homosexuality is immoral because it's unnatural, which it isn't.

[Army of GOD]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

A new review made in 2009 of existing research showed that same-sex behavior is a nearly universal phenomenon in the animal kingdom, common across species.

ALL OF NATURE IS UNNATURAL

Yea, but I don't think that's a completely valid comparison, considering we can think complexly. Not that I'm saying heterosexuality IS the natural thing. There IS not natural state.

Some people think killing innocent people is "naturally" or innately immoral. Yet some animals have no problem killing their siblings, parents, life partners, etc.

Essentially, you're saying it's possible for something that's "natural" to be immoral. Sure, I guess that's true. But Night Strike is saying homosexuality is immoral because it's unnatural, which it isn't.

No, I'm saying there are things humans think are natural that other species wouldn't agree with. I try not to say something is absolutely (im)moral, because of my belief in moral relativism.

[Woodruff]

Heterosexuality is the natural state of human sexuality, so of course I went with it. I did not choose to go against nature and decide that I liked males.

So you admit that there is no choice involved. That was easy.

[Phatscotty]

[KernowWarrior]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

[luns101]

When did you decide to be straight? Did you balance the options? When did you make the choice to be heterosexual?

Does this seem like a difficult question? Are you feeling that you never actually made a conscious decision to be heterosexual? Do you think at this point that maybe homosexuals went through the same thing as you, and maybe, just maybe, didn't make a choice about who they were attracted to?

If you believe homosexuality is a choice, explain how you dealt with that decision between gay and straight in you own life. What were the temptations?

STOP USING THE WORD HETEROSEXUAL!!!!

[Phatscotty]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

[InkL0sed]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

[demonfork]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

rofl...this is starting to get absurd

[InkL0sed]

It isn't remotely absurd; it's entirely consistent. Nobody chooses their sexual orientation. Bisexuality isn't a lack of orientation; it's simply another one.

[Phatscotty]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

[Haggis_McMutton]

I just wonder how the asexual pride parades are going to look.

[InkL0sed]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

There are degrees of bisexuality. She was born with her sexual orientation, whatever it happens to be. In any case, anything is possible. She might very well have been a closet lesbian the entire time. Your hypothetical situation is meaningless.

Honestly though guys, this is pathetic. All of the stuff I've been saying is easily googlable. If you really want to know about it, you can educate yourselves. Stop being so goddamn lazy.

[KernowWarrior]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

Yes, a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids totally faithfull to her husband, and one day meet a handsom man who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time, she would be still be straight. Therefore a bi-sexual woman whos been married with kids, totally faithfull to her husband could meet another man or woman and be unfaithfull and still be bi-sexual. Many men and women are faithfull to the same person all their lives, just because someone is bi-sexual (ie: sexually attracted to both sex) does not mean they are going to be unfaithful to the one they love, or fall in love with two different people of different sexes.

[BigBallinStalin]

I just wonder how the asexual pride parades are going to look.

Boring.

Imagine a parade of Forever Alones...

[BigBallinStalin]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

rofl...this is starting to get absurd

How so?

A bisexual is someone who's sexually attracted/open to either sex. It's not like they f*ck any human they see (to be crude about it).

The term bisexual describes someone who's expanded their target market across people's biological sexes. So, for a bisexual, their target market tends to focus on a certain gender-identity.

Why do certain people behave this way? Well, it's similar to the reasons why heterosexuals (sorry, luns101) "choose" to be attracted to other heterosexuals.

What Inkl0sed means by "choosing the degree of one's bisexuality," to me, that means that the target market of a bisexual can tend to encompass more males than females, or vice-versa, or the target market is predominantly a certain gender--regardless of their biological sex.

Think of bisexuals as the most open-minded people about sexual attraction.

[PLAYER57832]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

I hesitate to get into this, but some psycologists suggest that women are more amenable than men in this regard, that is women are more likely to either be bi or to become bi. If you think about it, there might be evolutionary reasons in that women have rarely had any choice in sexual partners, it was mostly up to the men.

I believe think the research is pretty tentative and very much disputed (NOT like the homosexual is biological research... that is proven). I myself don't believe it. At least, women might be slightly more prone to bisexuality than men, but I doubt it is truly a significant segment of the population.

Other psycologists suggest there is no such thing as true bisexuality, but that, too seems to be disputed.

[Phatscotty]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

There are degrees of bisexuality. She was born with her sexual orientation, whatever it happens to be. In any case, anything is possible. She might very well have been a closet lesbian the entire time. Your hypothetical situation is meaningless.

Honestly though guys, this is pathetic. All of the stuff I've been saying is easily googlable. If you really want to know about it, you can educate yourselves. Stop being so goddamn lazy.

yeah, I know it wasn't a great example. However, I still think that the idea of "if it looks good, sleep with it" is impulse most of the time, and what a person thinks looks good is in the mind. A woman could be talked into a bisexual experience even though she has never thought of it or desired it, and has a good buzz going from alcohol, and I don't think that has anything to do with being born a certain way. I understand there are probably some studies that have been done that show xyz, but I'm just saying a person can be born straight, and if they have someone telling them that gay is normal and showing them gay porn all the time at a very young age, and then being taught about gayness in school, they could turn gay. I'm just experimenting with these thoughts though, as I have never explored this subject before. Wait, maybe I'm Bi and didn't even know it! Sometimes I think saxi is hot. Wait, are you teaching me to be Bi?

I still think gay can be taught to someone who was born straight.
I think it's very difficult to teach a person born gay to be straight though.

[BigBallinStalin]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

I hesitate to get into this, but some psycologists suggest that women are more amenable than men in this regard, that is women are more likely to either be bi or to become bi.

Check this out:

Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats. It is a fundamental of taxonomy that nature rarely deals with discrete categories... The living world is a continuum in each and every one of its aspects.

While emphasizing the continuity of the gradations between exclusively heterosexual and exclusively homosexual histories, it has seemed desirable to develop some sort of classification which could be based on the relative amounts of heterosexual and homosexual experience or response in each history [...] An individual may be assigned a position on this scale, for each period in his life. [...] A seven-point scale comes nearer to showing the many gradations that actually exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_Scale


Cool stuff, huh?

[Woodruff]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

The same way. Do you believe it's a choice? Sexuality isn't necessarily an either/or proposition.

[Night Strike]

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

There are degrees of bisexuality. She was born with her sexual orientation, whatever it happens to be. In any case, anything is possible. She might very well have been a closet lesbian the entire time. Your hypothetical situation is meaningless.

Honestly though guys, this is pathetic. All of the stuff I've been saying is easily googlable. If you really want to know about it, you can educate yourselves. Stop being so goddamn lazy.

It's just another excuse for people to do whatever they want to do and then force everybody else to accept their choice of lifestyles.

[chang50]

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

There are degrees of bisexuality. She was born with her sexual orientation, whatever it happens to be. In any case, anything is possible. She might very well have been a closet lesbian the entire time. Your hypothetical situation is meaningless.

Honestly though guys, this is pathetic. All of the stuff I've been saying is easily googlable. If you really want to know about it, you can educate yourselves. Stop being so goddamn lazy.

It's just another excuse for people to do whatever they want to do and then force everybody else to accept their choice of lifestyles.

Just can't believe this discussion is still alive and kicking in the 21st century..

[KernowWarrior]

Someones sexuality is as much of a choice as their skin colour.

how does bisexuality work then?

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

I hesitate to get into this, but some psycologists suggest that women are more amenable than men in this regard, that is women are more likely to either be bi or to become bi. If you think about it, there might be evolutionary reasons in that women have rarely had any choice in sexual partners, it was mostly up to the men.

I believe think the research is pretty tentative and very much disputed (NOT like the homosexual is biological research... that is proven). I myself don't believe it. At least, women might be slightly more prone to bisexuality than men, but I doubt it is truly a significant segment of the population.

Other psycologists suggest there is no such thing as true bisexuality, but that, too seems to be disputed.

I know personally know many 'lesbian' women, who were married and straight and because of the sh*t and abuse they received from men 'turned' (I use the term loosly) gay. It had nothing to do with sexual attraction, although they do still enjoy an orgasam with their partner! its about companionship.

[tkr4lf]

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

There are degrees of bisexuality. She was born with her sexual orientation, whatever it happens to be. In any case, anything is possible. She might very well have been a closet lesbian the entire time. Your hypothetical situation is meaningless.

Honestly though guys, this is pathetic. All of the stuff I've been saying is easily googlable. If you really want to know about it, you can educate yourselves. Stop being so goddamn lazy.

It's just another excuse for people to do whatever they want to do and then force everybody else to accept their choice of lifestyles.

You seem like a very closed minded and bigoted person, full of hate and anger at a changing world, longing for the days of old. Quite honestly, I pity you. I've known far too many people like you, and I feel sorry for the anger ridden lives your kind must endure.

[Woodruff]

How is that a difficult question? Nobody chooses the degree of their bisexuality either.

so are you telling me that a woman can be straight her whole life up to 30 years old, married with kids, and one day meets a beautiful woman who hits on her, and they sleep together, one time.

She was born a bisexual?

There are degrees of bisexuality. She was born with her sexual orientation, whatever it happens to be. In any case, anything is possible. She might very well have been a closet lesbian the entire time. Your hypothetical situation is meaningless.

Honestly though guys, this is pathetic. All of the stuff I've been saying is easily googlable. If you really want to know about it, you can educate yourselves. Stop being so goddamn lazy.

It's just another excuse for people to do whatever they want to do and then force everybody else to accept their choice of lifestyles.

Let's examine this..."force everybody else to accept their choice of lifestyles". I thought you believed in freedom, Night Strike? If someone else's freedom does not harm anyone and does not infringe on anyone else's rights, why do you care if they exercise that freedom? They aren't forcing you to accept ANYTHING, because YOU ARE NOT IMPACTED. So...do you believe in freedom or do you believe we should live in a religious tyrancy (because the only argument against homosexuality and homosexual unions is religion)?