oVo wrote:A good offense is always a big bonus...
the pass scores points & the rush burns clock
but a great DEFENSE wins Championships.
I disagree with this.
I assure you, defense doesn't win championships.
I guess defense won championships sometime in the 2000s (the Trent Dilfer Ravens, for example or the Jim McMahon Bears in the 1980s), but seriously... think about post-1970s dynasties. 49ers, Cowboys, Patriots. All offensive oriented teams.
oVo wrote:A good offense is always a big bonus...
the pass scores points & the rush burns clock
but a great DEFENSE wins Championships.
I disagree with this.
I assure you, defense doesn't win championships.
I guess defense won championships sometime in the 2000s (the Trent Dilfer Ravens, for example or the Jim McMahon Bears in the 1980s), but seriously... think about post-1970s dynasties. 49ers, Cowboys, Patriots. All offensive oriented teams.
Not to mention the Bears over much of the 2000s have been a reasonably strong defensive team but half the time they don't even compete for a playoff spot.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
oVo wrote:A good offense is always a big bonus...
the pass scores points & the rush burns clock
but a great DEFENSE wins Championships.
I disagree with this.
I assure you, defense doesn't win championships.
I guess defense won championships sometime in the 2000s (the Trent Dilfer Ravens, for example or the Jim McMahon Bears in the 1980s), but seriously... think about post-1970s dynasties. 49ers, Cowboys, Patriots. All offensive oriented teams.
Yeah, if you look at the Pats in the 2000's, they won because their defense was good, they had a solid running game, and had a hall of fame clutch kicker; not because Brady was dominant. He was more of a game manager at that time.
My definition of defense winning championships is more along the lines of having them do something specific very well, and capitalizing on that; i.e. the Giants had teams that could pass rush, the Saints and Packers were good at generating turnovers the years they won. The defense doesn't have to be great to win in the post season, but it at least has to show up since most teams that enter the SB are offensively competent.
oVo wrote:A good offense is always a big bonus...
the pass scores points & the rush burns clock
but a great DEFENSE wins Championships.
I disagree with this.
I assure you, defense doesn't win championships.
I guess defense won championships sometime in the 2000s (the Trent Dilfer Ravens, for example or the Jim McMahon Bears in the 1980s), but seriously... think about post-1970s dynasties. 49ers, Cowboys, Patriots. All offensive oriented teams.
Not to mention the Bears over much of the 2000s have been a reasonably strong defensive team but half the time they don't even compete for a playoff spot.
Yup. Very happy that we finally have an offensive minded head coach, maybe now we can start work on putting a modern NFL contender together.
Frigidus wrote:BAL @ DEN NE @ BUF
SEA @ CAR
CIN @ CHI
MIA @ CLE MIN @ DET
OAK @ IND KC @ JAX ATL @ NO TB @ NYJ
TEN @ PIT
GB @ SF
ARI @ STL NYG @ DAL
PHI @ WAS HOU @ SD
8-8, ew.
NYJ @ NE
STL @ ATL
CLE @ BAL CAR @ BUF
MIN @ CHI
WAS @ GB
TEN @ HOU MIA @ IND DAL @ KC
SD @ PHI DET @ ARI NO @ TB DEN @ NYG
JAC @ OAK Big matchup in the battle for the #1 pick SF @ SEA
PIT @ CIN
oVo wrote:A good offense is always a big bonus...
the pass scores points & the rush burns clock
but a great DEFENSE wins Championships.
I disagree with this.
I assure you, defense doesn't win championships.
I guess defense won championships sometime in the 2000s (the Trent Dilfer Ravens, for example or the Jim McMahon Bears in the 1980s), but seriously... think about post-1970s dynasties. 49ers, Cowboys, Patriots. All offensive oriented teams.
Yeah, if you look at the Pats in the 2000's, they won because their defense was good, they had a solid running game, and had a hall of fame clutch kicker; not because Brady was dominant. He was more of a game manager at that time.
My definition of defense winning championships is more along the lines of having them do something specific very well, and capitalizing on that; i.e. the Giants had teams that could pass rush, the Saints and Packers were good at generating turnovers the years they won. The defense doesn't have to be great to win in the post season, but it at least has to show up since most teams that enter the SB are offensively competent.
All interesting points. I may have to reconsider my parents. Jerks.
So I watch the lowlights of that game last night when I woke up, New England is lucky they've had such and inept division for so long. The jets will be battling with the raiders and jaguars for the top draft choice at his rate.
Week One is like finally getting a good meal after going hungry for a few days. Week Two is when it sets in that you aren't starving any more. I missed the football season.
Lootifer wrote:I might follw NFL this year. I am going to support Broncos 'cause I have a man crush on AoG
Not another!
Living 2 hours away from Denver, all I hear is "Manning this!" and "Broncos that!" And "If Peyton Manning threw 7 touchdowns every game, he would break so-and-so's record!" Every. Single. Day.
Last week the AFC North all lost
and this week it's the NFC East.
Seahawks rock the Niners and Peyton stays perfect against his little brother as the Broncos roll in Meadowlands.
Week 2
NYJ @ NE
STL @ ATL
CLE @ BAL
CAR @ BUF
MIN @ CHI
WAS @ GB
TEN @ HOU
MIA @ IND. . . Fish are 2-0 DAL @ KC ...underdog Cowboys turn it over
SD @ PHI. . . Rivers is back DET @ ARI NO @ TB DEN @ NYG ... Manning on Manning, this should be great
JAC @ OAK
SF @ SEA. . . might be the best teams in the NFL
PIT @ CIN
12 - 4
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KC @ PHI ...Andy Reid looks good in Red HOU @ BAL ...Texans have yet to win pretty, but they get it done. NYG @ CAR ...Giants finally hold onto the ball & pressure Newton DET @ WAS ...Lions prolly have enough D to give RG3 a tough day SD @ TEN...both these clubs have tough losses to the Texans
ARZ @ NO
TB @ NE...Pats are figuring it out, but Bucs can't pass or catch GB @ CIN
STL @ DAL
CLE @ MIN... Peterson time ATL @ MIA ...the Fish have 2 road wins, welcome home BUF @ NYJ
IND @ SF
JAC @ SEA CHI @ PIT
OAK @ DEN
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