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Night Strike wrote:In my opinion (definitely not official or anything), I'm guessing that it's one of those things where if you do it a few times to avoid missing turns, etc. it's permissible. But if you start abusing it, then there will be consequences.
Like in this situation, lanyards sitting for JCKing one game when he suddenly had to leave is ok. If lanyards were to do this every time you tried to play JCKing, then it would be account abuse (and could very well be busted together).
The problem here is a bit different N.S. Lanyard is a foe of aliakber and lanyards knows it according to aliakber's statement. Neither in his own account(system does not allow him to do so) nor in some other's account lanyards(system does nothing about this) should not play against him. This is what aliakber mostly angry about.
so JCKing should have deadbeat
There are cases Jeff and i dont know anything so much...Then i will speak according to the cases...
Case 1: JC knew lanyards is foe of aliakber. Then if i were JC, i wud call someone else but not lanyards. Cos lanyards is foe of ali. Case 2:If JC knew nothing about the foe stuff between ali and lanyards then JC has nothign to do with this subject. Case 3: In all cases (1 and/or 2) lanyards should have rejected JC putting his excuse that he is foe of ali. This is what i find to be out of ethic. And ali is right in this matter cos he has been forced to play with someone who has been foed by him in some indirect ways... That is all what i say.
he had to go really quickly because of rl and we were chatting to lany on msn at the time so he told lany the password and left
should lany have just refused and just let JC deadbeat simply because aliakber is a sore loser and has lany on foe because lany is better than him?
You accept or dont, foe stuff made for ppl to prevent foeds join in their games. And in this case it has been penetrated in some legal ways deliberately or accidebtally. In ali's game, lanyard should have not taken places in any means according to foe rules. I m repeating myself, i dont call this to be a cheating but it is not ethic. By the way, i am at nobody's side and definetely i do not know ali, who he is, a sore loser or not all of them are out of my knowledge...
HardAttack wrote:You accept or dont, foe stuff made for ppl to prevent foeds join in their games. And in this case it has been penetrated in some legal ways deliberately or accidebtally. In ali's game, lanyard should have not taken places in any means according to foe rules. I m repeating myself, i dont call this to be a cheating but it is not ethic. By the way, i am at nobody's side and definetely i do not know ali, who he is, a sore loser or not all of them are out of my knowledge...
i agree with you completely hardattack. as messed up as your knowledge of the english language is, i still agree with you.
aliakber1001 wrote:lanyards, Jeff Hardy and JCKing are cheating
This isn't news. That's the only thing they know how to do.
Please explain. I know JC has been busted for multies, I don't know about Jeff, but I can assure you I have never cheated. Not once. Please tell me how I cheat, I want to hear this.
ronc8649 wrote:i am not sure if any of you freestyle idiots can really say you are better than anyone.
faster maybe....but better is all relative!
i think lanyards is a punk, and yes, JC should have deadbeated out. i have done it plenty of times.
and by the way you are reacting hardy, i think you had more of a hand in this than you claim.
anytime you girls want a triples game. i will take lanyards off of foe, and teach you kids a lesson!!!
another idiot that thinks freestyle games are 100% about speed ^^. maybe thinking speed as in how fast you can make a good plan and react to opponents, but its certainly not all about how fast your computer is (my computer is slow and my laptop is even slower but i still do very well).
if that challenge was freestyle speed then we accept!
aliakber1001 wrote:lanyards, Jeff Hardy and JCKing are cheating
This isn't news. That's the only thing they know how to do.
Please explain. I know JC has been busted for multies, I don't know about Jeff, but I can assure you I have never cheated. Not once. Please tell me how I cheat, I want to hear this.
Okay, so Baldy, you obviously need to keep ya trap shut until you have something to back yourself up with. All I know how to do is cheat. Good one Baldz.
lanyards wrote:Okay, so Baldy, you obviously need to keep ya trap shut until you have something to back yourself up with. All I know how to do is cheat. Good one Baldz.
Way to troll your own thread a good 20 times there Lany.
If these people are not punished, the foe list should be removed. If we are allowed to purposely circumvent the foe list by account sitting, than I suppose I have a lot of account sitting to do, since I'm allowed to.
Time to send some PM's.
Lakad Matataaag! Normalin, normalin.
TheJonah wrote:I`m not really that arsed. Just supporting my mucker.
lanyards wrote:Okay, so Baldy, you obviously need to keep ya trap shut until you have something to back yourself up with. All I know how to do is cheat. Good one Baldz.
Way to troll your own thread a good 20 times there Lany.
If these people are not punished, the foe list should be removed. If we are allowed to purposely circumvent the foe list by account sitting, than I suppose I have a lot of account sitting to do, since I'm allowed to.
Time to send some PM's.
theres a difference: JC intended to finish the game when we joined it, he did not know something would get in the way
By your own admission Jeff, you were there in chat. As his partner, it is not yet illegal for you to take over for him. Instead, and you both knew lanyards was on his foe list, you decided to abuse that knowledge and this opportunity. Abuse = abuse, and cheating the system is cheating the system.
Lakad Matataaag! Normalin, normalin.
TheJonah wrote:I`m not really that arsed. Just supporting my mucker.
Kotaro wrote:By your own admission Jeff, you were there in chat. As his partner, it is not yet illegal for you to take over for him. Instead, and you both knew lanyards was on his foe list, you decided to abuse that knowledge and this opportunity. Abuse = abuse, and cheating the system is cheating the system.
Hmmz. That is really possible in a speed doubles freestyle game, where moves are made within seconds. Switching between accounts is definitely a great idea. Why didn't we think of this.
Kotaro wrote:By your own admission Jeff, you were there in chat. As his partner, it is not yet illegal for you to take over for him. Instead, and you both knew lanyards was on his foe list, you decided to abuse that knowledge and this opportunity. Abuse = abuse, and cheating the system is cheating the system.
1 minute to go before the round ends JC announces he has to go. he has 10 to deploy and if he doesnt deploy right we lose. of course JC and me took the time to go through and look who out of aliakbers foes were online and he didnt just give his password to the first person he saw
i think you have no idea what you are talking about.
Night Strike wrote:In my opinion (definitely not official or anything), I'm guessing that it's one of those things where if you do it a few times to avoid missing turns, etc. it's permissible. But if you start abusing it, then there will be consequences.
Like in this situation, lanyards sitting for JCKing one game when he suddenly had to leave is ok. If lanyards were to do this every time you tried to play JCKing, then it would be account abuse (and could very well be busted together).
but i dont think anyone would ever know its abuse since he didnt say it in the chat. if it is not mentioned in the chat, then nobody would ever know. would be a nice discussion, unfortunately all the 'reported' will get their way and have the whole thread locked by flaming it and taking it off topic.
Jeff Hardy wrote:1 minute to go before the round ends JC announces he has to go. he has 10 to deploy and if he doesnt deploy right we lose. of course JC and me took the time to go through and look who out of aliakbers foes were online and he didnt just give his password to the first person he saw
i think you have no idea what you are talking about.
Yeah, because lanyards had no idea that he was foe'd by aliakber. Maybe your friend should not start games he cannot finish. And what's to stop abuse if this is to be the precedent? I'll get some of my youngin friends I babysit to make accounts, ask them to start games with my foes. Than, 5 minutes into it, I'll inform them that it's their bedtime. What's a poor Kotaro supposed to do, let them deadbeat? Nooo, I must take over and play against my foes. It's the only right thing to do!
lanyards wrote:Hmmz. That is really possible in a speed doubles freestyle game, where moves are made within seconds. Switching between accounts is definitely a great idea. Why didn't we think of this.
Hmm. Joining a game where you know someone has foe'd you is really quite unavoidable. Jumping to someone elses account to play someone that clearly doesn't want to play with you is a great idea. Why didn't I think of this,
Lakad Matataaag! Normalin, normalin.
TheJonah wrote:I`m not really that arsed. Just supporting my mucker.
See, here's the thing Kotaro, the person who publicly posts that they're going to exploit any loopholes in the system will find themselves getting punished much faster than those who originally used a loophole. If foes continually sit for people to play against those whose foe list they are on, I'm sure they will be handled appropriately by the admins. Feel free to raise heck about it if you wish, but I wouldn't go around trying to do the same thing.
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See Night Strike, here's the other thing. Who says anyone would know? That's the thing. With this stupid as shit "common courtesy" bullshit, and not required, you'll never know who I'm account sitting for, when I'm doing it, or which of my foe's I'm doing it against.
I could state right now that I'm making a multi, name it something completely ass random with nothing connected to me, run my IE through a AOL IP randomizer, and run FireFox through another, and you'd never catch me. Fact is, with all these ass backwards rules, I could do next to anything to break any of them, and no one would be the wiser. It's not my job to write or enforce the rules, it's yours.
Lakad Matataaag! Normalin, normalin.
TheJonah wrote:I`m not really that arsed. Just supporting my mucker.
Jeff Hardy wrote:1 minute to go before the round ends JC announces he has to go. he has 10 to deploy and if he doesnt deploy right we lose. of course JC and me took the time to go through and look who out of aliakbers foes were online and he didnt just give his password to the first person he saw
i think you have no idea what you are talking about.
Yeah, because lanyards had no idea that he was foe'd by aliakber. Maybe your friend should not start games he cannot finish. And what's to stop abuse if this is to be the precedent? I'll get some of my youngin friends I babysit to make accounts, ask them to start games with my foes. Than, 5 minutes into it, I'll inform them that it's their bedtime. What's a poor Kotaro supposed to do, let them deadbeat? Nooo, I must take over and play against my foes. It's the only right thing to do!
lanyards wrote:Hmmz. That is really possible in a speed doubles freestyle game, where moves are made within seconds. Switching between accounts is definitely a great idea. Why didn't we think of this.
Hmm. Joining a game where you know someone has foe'd you is really quite unavoidable. Jumping to someone elses account to play someone that clearly doesn't want to play with you is a great idea. Why didn't I think of this,
do you actually read what we are writing? his dad suddenly came in without notice and made him get off the computer
that would be doing it on purpose which would be abuse
for those that dont want to read all this ill sum it up: kotaro is an idiot who doesnt know what hes talking about
Flaming in your own thread is a sign of a weak argument.
So, I'm now going to claim my dad came into the room and forced me to make another account. Please don't punish me, it's not my fault.
For all those who are reading:
JCK abused the system, and now that it's thrown in public, lanyards and Jeff Hardy are flaming in their own thread, because their argument is weak and pathetic.
Lakad Matataaag! Normalin, normalin.
TheJonah wrote:I`m not really that arsed. Just supporting my mucker.
