[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[the white rose]

I make that L-1 for rish,

he doesn't seem that interested so i will do him a favour and hammer.

not sure if he is scum, his roleblocking has at times looked scummy and he is as good a choice as anybody else.

unvote vote rish

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Vote Count

Benga (3) -Catchers, Players, Risky
Rish (8) - Benga, Deg, Rage, Mets, Aladdin, IB, Mitch, TWR
DJ (2) - Rish, /,

LYNCH!

Rish - Mafia Roleblocker has been lynched

Night begins, deadline Saturday 12th - 12:00 CCTime

(I'm not going to have enough time to process actions Thursday or Friday unfortunately)

[benga]

Inyaface

[Ragian]

COME ON!!!

@Deg

[Iron Butterfly]

That lynch clears Rag and Deg and Benga.

Rags invention worked. Benga did not lie about it and Deg is Town.

That was a huge lynch and a monkey off our backs.

I still think DJ is scum.I would think at minimum we have two mafia left perhaps three.

That lynch is key in many ways and if you are Town go back and read over today's vote pattern as well as yesterday.

[Metsfanmax]

I agree with IB. It's pretty hard to construct reasonable scenarios in which any of benga/deg/Rag are scum given this information.

[Iron Butterfly]

I'm inclined ot keep my vote on benga. After thinkin about who I would potentially switch to between rish and DJ I'm very torn. Reading through the arguments I lean towrads voting rish. However, I then look at where the votes currently stand and I feel much more comfortable trusting those voting for DJ over those voting for rish. Currently I don't feel the need to swich my vote but I will closer to the deadline if necissary. In that case I currently would predict switching to DJ.

Agreed, we need a lynch today. Keep in mind there are at least three days to the deadline, potentially four. In my opinion it's too early to start stressing over the possiblity of another no lynch, there's a lot of time left on the clock.

So Catcher explain what player arguments swayed you in your vote. Why did you trust the DJ voters vs the Rish voters....even though you were "leaning" Rish.

[the white rose]

That lynch clears Rag and Deg and Benga.

Rags invention worked. Benga did not lie about it and Deg is Town.

That was a huge lynch and a monkey off our backs.

I still think DJ is scum.I would think at minimum we have two mafia left perhaps three.

That lynch is key in many ways and if you are Town go back and read over today's vote pattern as well as yesterday.

Agree totally. That was a huge lynch and puts town back in the driving seat. now we have 4 confirmed townies.

[degaston]

The new topic title sounds ominous.

[Iron Butterfly]

Yup...guess we wait and see...Surprise???

[CatchersMitt14]

I'm inclined ot keep my vote on benga. After thinkin about who I would potentially switch to between rish and DJ I'm very torn. Reading through the arguments I lean towrads voting rish. However, I then look at where the votes currently stand and I feel much more comfortable trusting those voting for DJ over those voting for rish. Currently I don't feel the need to swich my vote but I will closer to the deadline if necissary. In that case I currently would predict switching to DJ.

Agreed, we need a lynch today. Keep in mind there are at least three days to the deadline, potentially four. In my opinion it's too early to start stressing over the possiblity of another no lynch, there's a lot of time left on the clock.

So Catcher explain what player arguments swayed you in your vote. Why did you trust the DJ voters vs the Rish voters....even though you were "leaning" Rish.

The sway didn't come from their arugments on DJ/rish, it came from not only who I believe to be town but also from how much credit I give to the idividual's opinions. When I made that comment the vote count was as follows.

Benga (3) - Catchers, Players, rizky
Rish (4) - Benga, Deg, Rage, Mets, Aladdin
DJ (4) - IB, Rish, Mitch, TWR, /

TWR is as "confirmend" town as we can get. Aladdin, at the momet I do think he's town. However both these players fall into a catagory where their opinons mean very little to me. Over the course of this game I have seem little evidence to encourage me to put my faith into their decision making process.

Benga, Deg, and Rish were one the line betwixted yesterday and today so their votes didnt' count for too much. It's expected they voted the way they did.

rizky I believe to be cleared now from last night's investigation. I get the feeling player is just following the crowd and not putting in much of an effort to anayalyze the game for herself. It's been a toss up to me if she's playing scummy or just new. After today, I put her into the unexperienced category.

Mets, I just don't know. I lean towards him being scum but the longer this game plays out the more I think he's style falls in line with a lot of the other mafia players I came into this game considering them to be "experienced." Several of whom are already lynched and flipped town. It seems to fall into the style of play on this site.

Mitch I've talkied about before in debate with Aladdin. Hightly doubt he's town, I lean towards third party after his push to get lynched (I want to say that was D2) he seems to me to be supporting a town win.

Rage (along with deg and benga) look to be cleared by rish's flip.

IB, I've actually put a lot of trust into your opinions after the outcome from early in the game and at that point your vote was on DJ, that did carry some sigificant weight on my decision.

That leaves slash, he seems to be skating around the edges. After Rish's flip I think it's worth looking into hiim tomorrow.

[degaston]

COME ON!!!

@Deg

Uh... Thanks? But... I'm not gay.

NTTAWWT

[AladdinSane]

That lynch clears Rag and Deg and Benga.

Rags invention worked. Benga did not lie about it and Deg is Town.

That was a huge lynch and a monkey off our backs.

I still think DJ is scum.I would think at minimum we have two mafia left perhaps three.

That lynch is key in many ways and if you are Town go back and read over today's vote pattern as well as yesterday.

Amazing how a singul linch can put a hole new compleckshun on teh game. Not just Mafia, but an inportent Mafia power roll gorn. I note dat DJP dident vote, awtho maybe he was just taken by supprise at teh erly linch. Orso, we finorly have evidense dat Ragian's invenchuns werk. It took a long wile to werk thru dat alinement-indickator saga, but it payed out in teh end.

[Ragian]

Come off it, Deg. With an avatar like that?

Also, stop using abbreviations that I have to google

We actually owe Benga a lot of credit for not lynching Deg D5. You, sir, have balls! I wonder how many power roles we have left. I wonder if I'm it.

[benga]

cm, player, /, aladin, dj

even with aladin posting a lot, we need more clarity from them now, no more going around the bush

[DJPatrick]

kAY...as Alladin has noted and amplified, I didn't vote for "last night's" lynch...I'd already offered myself as a sacrificial lamb (based on the usual Alladin diatribe)...so the rush to lynch me was sort of what I expected but when it swung back to quickly and forceably I waited to see who of votes on me switched at the last moment...even given that some/most would preferany lynch rather than no lynnch I also sort of figure few/none of the original Rish voters swapped preference due to wanting to be seen as being on side with a successful lynch whereas the late switchers become much more suspect. Deg I have no problem with but Alladin with his constant jumping hither and thither is a worry and / = ???

[rizky_biznezz]

I was coming to see if I needed to change but nope lol.. Good work guys

[PLAYER57832]

Yeah, me too, but that's "too little, too late". (for me at least)

Glad it worked out as it did. i was going to go back over all the votes/accusations from the start, beginning with IB/hotshot, to try and figure something out, but it looks like others already have.

I am still wondering about the insane asylum proximity. That has not played much into the game and I am wondering why?

[madmitch]

if DJ is mafia why was Rish voting to hang him.

[AladdinSane]

cm, player, /, aladin, dj

even with aladin posting a lot, we need more clarity from them now, no more going around the bush

Wot "going around the bush"? I havent avoided ansering enyting. You can ask enyting about enyting I have dun or sed in teh game. I will do my best to answer fooly.

[AladdinSane]

Deg I have no problem with but Alladin with his constant jumping hither and thither is a worry and / = ???

Wot "constant jumping"? D5 I started by voting Mitch becorse I thort it was a good idee to buy us a day and get moor invenchun resolts out. Wen it became aparent dat Mitch wozent going to be linched, I switched to wun of teh fruntrunners, Deg, becorse I wanted to avoid another no-linch. However, I felt uncumfertabul with dat, becorse I had a feelin Deg was Town, so I switched to Benga, mainly becorse TWR and RB were voting fer him.

D6 I started agin on Benga, cuntinuing frum teh preevius day, but wen teh DJP and Rish wagons gained steem, I switched to Rish becorse his "jailing" choises dident look too Townish (witch I pointed out at teh time), and he was keeping a low profile and not ansering qwestjuns. Have been wundering why Rish dident jail me N3 and N4 - now I know. He wanted his "jailings" to be as detrimental to Town as posibul.

I cood just have eesily switched to DJP, tbh, and I have a feeling we mite have struk paydirt their too. I've been in transit (to Manila!) today, so havent had mutch time to analise yet. Moor tomorow wen I've cort up on sleep yet agin.

[AladdinSane]

if DJ is mafia why was Rish voting to hang him.

Are you sugesting their was no Mafia on Rish's wagen? Becorse dat's wot yore logic sujests.

You are aware of dis ting corled "bussing", rite? Tho I cant see why Mafia wood be bussing enywun at dis point of teh game, mutch less a useful power roll, wen dey cant have been too far frum winning.

I tink teh reel qwestjun is: If DJP is Town, why dident Mafia fastlinch him, thereby saving Rish? Was it becorse most of dem were awreddy on teh DJP wagen?

Okay, I need to sleep and tink orl dis stuff over.

[Iron Butterfly]

cm, player, /, aladin, dj

even with aladin posting a lot, we need more clarity from them now, no more going around the bush

I think you mean "beating around the bush."

Also I just realized that the "Jail bursts open" is just a reference to the fact we lynched someone who claimed to be the Town Jail Keeper. Sometimes the most simple answer is the right answer.

[Iron Butterfly]

if DJ is mafia why was Rish voting to hang him.

Are you sugesting their was no Mafia on Rish's wagen? Becorse dat's wot yore logic sujests.

You are aware of dis ting corled "bussing", rite? Tho I cant see why Mafia wood be bussing enywun at dis point of teh game, mutch less a useful power roll, wen dey cant have been too far frum winning.

I tink teh reel qwestjun is: If DJP is Town, why dident Mafia fastlinch him, thereby saving Rish? Was it becorse most of dem were awreddy on teh DJP wagen?

Okay, I need to sleep and tink orl dis stuff over.

In my opinion I think Mafia was hoping for another split like yesterday. We had a three way log jam.

Rish is experienced enough that he knows he needed to do something for Town cred. If we did lynch DJ that would have solidified his standing as Town Jailer.

Ithink the reason Rish was not participating is because he believed his goose was cooked. While Town saw it from the perspective OMG what if we are wrong, what if the invention is misleading, what if Benga is lying and we are lynching Town, He saw it from the perspective of he knew he was boxed into a corner. Sometimes you need to trust your gut. His choice of stating he jailed me was completely off base if he were Town. His choice of "stating" he blocked Storr was off as well. He did not protect the cop but protected VTs? Again sometimes the obvious answer is the best answer.

[the white rose]

TWR is as "confirmend" town as we can get. Aladdin, at the momet I do think he's town. However both these players fall into a catagory where their opinons mean very little to me. Over the course of this game I have seem little evidence to encourage me to put my faith into their decision making process.

OMG, I can't believe you just said that.

This is my best game ever at finding scum.

D1 - was on the hotshot lynch, turned out antitown
D2 - was on the sausage lynch, again turned out antitown
D3 - refused to hammer wing, even though he threatened to shoot me. turned out town
D4 - refused to vote for falco turned out town
D5 - refused to hammer deg, seems now he is town
D6 - hammered Rish, 3 days before deadline, turned out mafia roleblocker.

so please explain how my opinions mean nothing to you?