The Village of Secrets [GAME OVER] Werewolves Win!

[Roger Dodger]

Stor. Can u repeat the question please and..for all that has been said and done in the past, understand u r lynching a town folk not a bad guy so yes. U will all be wrong. Btw, I am putting my 57 feral cats in my will to u pup.

[StorrZerg]

how about you read my posts, see when i ask questions (i've asked you a lot)

then quote my quote, and respond.


Here you can sort posts by "author" go to the section with all my posts! that will make it super easy to respond to.

[Jmac1026]

how about you read my posts, see when i ask questions (i've asked you a lot)

then quote my quote, and respond.


Here you can sort posts by "author" go to the section with all my posts! that will make it super easy to respond to.

Its becoming quickly apparent that RD does not care to put the effort forth to play the game the way its meant to be played. We should all cater to her demands and remind her every other post that there is more than one page and it could behoove her to read through what has been said more than once.

[StorrZerg]

yeah...........

[pancakemix]

Responding to the thread as I go, so bear with me.

I don't understand why people get on Storr for hating the joke vote stage. It really does kinda blow. Although reacting that way does drive people out of that phase, it seems...

BAM! Overreaction to a simple vote onto him, X-Stor-X did not rage at 4 votes, Anark seems a bit edgy with a single vote on him on Day 1.

This shows you don't know Nark's playstyle. He's always like this. This also seems typical of your style to pick on someone for a small misinterpretation.

So where to cast my vote, jak, for his poor case on Nark, or Nark for his poor reaction on the poor case. vote jak this doesn't say Nark is blameless but I do believe that the origins of jak's case of Nark, are poor, and this does partially justify Nark's reaction.

And so I find this a little uncalled for. If we're going to have this much discussion on metagaming, we should actually, y'know, do it.

I think it's amazing anyone claims or gets lynched in these games, since it's apparently a crime to make the 3rd or 4th vote on someone. While yes, sometimes scum could bandwagon to get a quick lynch, I think often it's town who are just convinced by previous arguments on the person enough to want to see a claim. I mean isn't that the whole point of an argument is to convince other people to join you in voting that person? Sorry for the little rant, I'm just often afraid of voting for cases that I think have decent merit just because I know if I do that 2-3 times I'll get railroaded as a bandwagonner...

I agree with this in principle, though what happened on Storr was actually exceedingly fast.

In response to this:
You're trying really hard to meta jonty here and you picked two really bad examples. I'll acknowledge that this isn't typical jonty style, but it's a larger contribution at this stage of the game than he typically offers. I've known him to make large post though, and typically those are in situations when he's got a beat on someone. I'd be careful before you start making such accusations. Also you picked terrible examples, as others have pointed out.

The case against me is indefensible, I accept it as a case, and would claim at L-2.

Though if he'll go with it, more power to him...

Well maybe I'm wrong but, what is right and what is wrong? The fact here is that at this point everyone is suspect. Sometimes u gotta shake the tree and see what falls. Regardless, I am sticking to my vote. Now, by being defensive of Jonty, could u all be part of the team to make this town mafia land? I will look back at Jonty other games and see if it is in fact a true statement. Vote stays.

...what?

I mean...what is right and wrong, anyway?

THE SECOND PART IS MY QUOTE THAT HE FAILED TO QUOTE CORRECTLY ffs are you not reading my posts????
my last post explained his post.

ignore that i wasn't reading your post correctly.

Lol.

I am not pushing for a lynch Day 1 like the real scum do, I am pushing for information that we can use in the night to better use any actions people may have to help town out better tomorrow.

Spiesr addressed this quote, but this goes both ways. You could be pushing for information on how best to use SCUM night actions, not just for the greater good. That makes it a null statement on its own, but calling it for town is the greater sin. Also, saying you don't want a lynch D1 is pretty scummy in general. I only vote No Lynch D1 if there's A LOT of info on the table (like mass claim D1, it's happened).

Hell, folks, lemme help you all out... Since most of you are being absolutely ridiculous, I will jump up and claim now... Guess what? I am a vanilla townie, and so not to quote my PM, I am a Peasant... That isn't what the title says, it mentions village... So, folks, way to out a Vanilla Townie!

...why again?

vote No lynch. The reasons are simple.
1. I have reason to believe both claims, and Jonty wouldn't be claiming a town vig this early, unless its a elaborate ploy by scum.
2. The night tonight will give us a lot of information. (How many killing factions and so on).
3. I don't know why Jak wants jonty to kill tonight. He has practically no information, and its worse than a mislynch, if he shoots wrong, because we don't get any voting information from it.
4. With two factions I don't know how many mislynches are available to town before they cannot win.

Why, when there's time to spare? As I said, I need a lot of info on the table to advocate D1 No Lynch, but this ain't it.

And yet I'm shocked ho many people went for it...

Just noticed Lootifer's vote is still being counted. Unvote Personally, I remove votes of and on those replacing in. That's just me.

I don't understand RD's play. She addresses only a limited (and sometimes immediate to her) scope of things, and then when called for it, she pulls the martyr card? At the same time, though, I'd argue exactly what Storr constantly advocates: giving reads.

Never played with her but she appears to have had some decent activity in the CC mafia forum 5-6 years ago and has just recently returned. So, I think she should have knowledge of the basic terminology but perhaps its not quite like riding a bicycle.

The game here has evolved greatly in the past 5-6 years. As someone who watched the culture develop, I can say the acronyms and jargon we use now would be very out of place back when.

On controlling jonty: As you can see, that relies on jonty cooperating. I despise when someone tries to dictate PRs anyway (Rodion is usually the most guilty of this).

So, after all of that...

1. I believe jonty. We play to have fun. We have fun the longer we play. We play longer by playing better. We play better by trying to improve. We try to improve by changing our meta. This shouldn't be a reason for voting. Maybe warning would be good, or subtle changes would help, but even so he should not be derided for it.

2. I don't like the way Nark claimed. He also seems to have disappeared a bit, which seems a little sketchy. That said, it's not like he's going to try the same trick and hope it works the opposite way. Right? ...right?

3. I'm disappointed how many people voted No Lynch. Take some risks, dammit. Don't play not to lose.

4. I'm going to put this day out of its misery. Vote Roger Dodger. Because
a. Her posts have been very narrow, as I noted.
b. She's basically devolved into trolling with the comments she's making
c. It's gonna happen in about 9 hours anyway.

[Roger Dodger]

At the end I must say thank u. For I really don't have the time to be sitting thru all this dialog. I did ask the originator of this mafia game to get someone else but it seems I'm done anyway. It was a mistake on my part to think that the mafia games of years back would not have evolved into so much. I commend those that have the time and patience to read, read and read. Also, it seems the days have become way too long. Have fun kids. Later

[StorrZerg]

At the end I must say thank u. For I really don't have the time to be sitting thru all this dialog. I did ask the originator of this mafia game to get someone else but it seems I'm done anyway. It was a mistake on my part to think that the mafia games of years back would not have evolved into so much. I commend those that have the time and patience to read, read and read. Also, it seems the days have become way too long. Have fun kids. Later

The amount of time and effort you put into complaining and random crap, would have been enough to get a straight point across.
Might i suggest in the future, don't just post with out reading anything. Take 15 mins, read the pages you've missed write down notes. And then comment.

[StorrZerg]

@pcm started out as something small on jonty.. and it didn't get swatted down. All he simple had to do was link a contradiction. Instead his reactions and how he continued to play after that was very odd, which is why i kept pushing.

[pancakemix]

@pcm started out as something small on jonty.. and it didn't get swatted down. All he simple had to do was link a contradiction. Instead his reactions and how he continued to play after that was very odd, which is why i kept pushing.

I realize that, and criticized his unwillingness to defend himself on it. That said, I think that may be the only reason the wagon on him got as far as it did.

[HotShot53]

Of the 3 people who claimed today, I am 99% sure nark is clean, and maybe 75% on jonty and RD... of the 2, RD wants to give up, and jonty can be much more useful especially if he is the vig he claims, so I agree with lynching RD over jonty, but since I think RD is probably town I'll let the clock drop the hammer on her instead of voting her. It's too late to start a new case now... so I guess not much to do but wait for the clock

[MudPuppy]

Great!!! One less townie and I'm stuck with 57 feral cats!
Jonty, you can train them to help out on your nightly scum hunt.

[superkeener]

Official Vote Count 1.9

FINAL DAY 1 VOTE COUNT

Anarkistsdream (1): rishaed
HotShot53 (0):
Iron Butterfly (0):
jak111 (0):
Jmac1026 (0):
jonty125 (5): StorrZerg, Roger Dodger, Anarkistsdream, spiesr, MudPuppy
kgb007 (0):
pancakemix (0):
MudPuppy (1): virus90
rishaed (0):
LYNCHED Roger Dodger (6): Iron Butterfly, Jmac1026, jonty125, jak111, Whatsausage, pancakemix,
spiesr (0):
virus90 (0):
Whatsausage (0):
StorrZerg (0):

No Lynch (1): kgb007

Not Voting: HotShot53


Roger Dodger, a Town Villager has been lynched.



Deadline for NIGHT 1 actions is: Sunday, April 06, 2014, 10:00am CC Time.

[Roger Dodger]

See told ya I was town. Sorry boys. Work and doing this whole thing via cell phone made this impossible to complete. I do apologize. Good hunting. And, I Am A Female. JEEEZ

[superkeener]

Some things came up, so the D2 start will be pushed back at least a few more hours.

[Anarkistsdream]

Some things came up, so the D2 start will be pushed back at least a few more hours.

Unacceptable... tee hee!

[superkeener]

During Night 1...
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rishaed, a Mafia Goon has been killed.


Day 2 begins now!

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Official Vote Count 2.0

Anarkistsdream (0):
HotShot53 (0):
Iron Butterfly (0):
jak111 (0):
Jmac1026 (0):
jonty125 (0):
kgb007 (0):
pancakemix (0):
MudPuppy (0):
spiesr (0):
virus90 (0):
Whatsausage (0):
StorrZerg (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: HotShot53, kgb007, Iron Butterfly, Jmac1026, jonty125, jak111, Whatsausage, pancakemix, StorrZerg, Anarkistsdream, spiesr, MudPuppy, virus90

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Deadline for DAY 2 is: Wednesday, April 16, 2014, 10:00am CC Time.

[MudPuppy]

I can see the reason for the delay, superkeener. Must've taken you forever to write that scene up.

Only 1 kill and they got scum!!! Guess one non-town faction shot the other... but what happened to rishaed's faction???
Jonty, can you confirm that you did not shoot last night?

[Anarkistsdream]

I just want everyone to note that rishaed had his vote on me all day yesterday... Let that prove I am not mafia.

[superkeener]

Sorry for the delay on the scene (Thanks mudpuppy)


Day 2 Opening Scene

The last time someone was murdered in Keenerville was 88 years ago and that was a farmer’s dispute over chicken eggs... anyways, yesterday we had 1 lynching and 1 murder.

Times they are a-changin…

Granted the nightly-murdered person was not a town favorite. rishaed the Mafia Goon was only interested in making his pockets fatter by forcing all the villagers to pay him for protection, and since it had been so long since a killing, business was mutually beneficial. However, now it seems rishaed should have worried more about his own protection.
How will the town react to the news? Who will they hold responsible?

[jak111]

Interesting that Mafia did not make a kill. (They did not kill their own surely).

If we have a roleblocker, you might wish to speak up, because I think you may have role-blocked the mafia that attempted to make their kill. (or any other role that could potentially stop the kill, unless doc, doc stays quiet).

Also, Anark's claim is either proved right or proved wrong, depending if there are multiples of the same name (Villager - VT). With no real names to go with them to tell them apart. But for now we can let that slide, might find out when another VT dies.

As far as who died, it's a simple Goon, so mafia PR still possibility out there.

Anyone with night info they're willing to share?

FP'd twice.

Does not mean you're not another bad faction Anark.

FP'd by Super

THERE IS THE SCENE...

[superkeener]

I should also mention that during Day 2 the only way for a lynch will be the complete 7 votes.

[Jmac1026]

Did someone bus Rish with someone else? That's really the only way I could see him getting killed. I'd find it difficult to believe that there are two killing factions out there as well as Jonty.

Jonty, did you kill Rish?

I'll make post of more substance when I get on my computer.

[HotShot53]

Interesting that Mafia did not make a kill. (They did not kill their own surely).

If we have a roleblocker, you might wish to speak up, because I think you may have role-blocked the mafia that attempted to make their kill. (or any other role that could potentially stop the kill, unless doc, doc stays quiet).

Also, Anark's claim is either proved right or proved wrong, depending if there are multiples of the same name (Villager - VT). With no real names to go with them to tell them apart. But for now we can let that slide, might find out when another VT dies.

As far as who died, it's a simple Goon, so mafia PR still possibility out there.

Anyone with night info they're willing to share?

FP'd twice.

Does not mean you're not another bad faction Anark.

FP'd by Super

THERE IS THE SCENE...

My guess is both the mafia and the doc targeted the only known power role so far, jonty, which is why the mafia didn't make a kill. That or there is a busdriver that switched jonty with rishaed, and the third faction doesn't kill. Either way, I don't expect anyone to come forward.

And all VT are named the same, that's why I said I am 99% sure nark is clean.

[jak111]

Seems odd to name them all the same.

But mind you, that makes finding PR's more easier (Super should of thought that through, now anyone who doesn't know villager is VT is obvious PR).

So basically, after Anark claimed, everyone else who didn't believe his claim and voted him are now outed as PR's/Scum.

So now, mafia is able to hit our PR's much more easier.

Whether PR's like it or not, some of us are outed due to that flaw in the game.

So claiming that you roleblocked someone (potential mafia) is not a bad thing at this point, because right now there are soo many PR's out on the table.

[StorrZerg]

cool mafia down.
lets get another lynched today.
Doc probably got a save, fine to keep that under wraps atm imo.
If it was a bus driver action... you should probably out yourself. 1 it would confirm the night actions, 2 it would clear a lot of things regarding jonty (if he shot), or another kill from someone else.
+ this info would allow who ever the doc is to be sure about their save.

I think if the original target was inside the 2 big vote counts, that will tell a lot of the direction we should move today. I
O forgot the other big thing... IF you shot rish, you should probably claim... (jonty was this you?)