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[Phatscotty]

Ok guys I'm back to own this thread again.


GOP votes to repeal healthcare 30 times, but offers nothing to help Americans (not even a single jobs bill)

Access to a pill will fix everything!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Juan_Bottom]

I can tell that nothing has changed since page 20.

I'm declaring this debate a one-sided win for Liberals.
And the law a one-sided win for corporations.

[Juan_Bottom]

[Phatscotty]

Everyone look! Juan's heart is bleeding!

[Juan_Bottom]

Everyone look, phatscotty doesn't have any way to actually argue with the law without looking like Satan!

[Night Strike]

Everyone look, phatscotty doesn't have any way to actually argue with the law without looking like Satan!

That's what happens when society has devolved to the point where everyone is dependent upon the government for everything: when you want to reign in the government, you're automatically painted as Satan and hating poor people.

[BigBallinStalin]

Where do you get all the propaganda from?

[Juan_Bottom]

Everyone look, phatscotty doesn't have any way to actually argue with the law without looking like Satan!

That's what happens when society has devolved to the point where everyone is dependent upon the government for everything: when you want to reign in the government, you're automatically painted as Satan and hating poor people.

I was actually making the point that Jesus commanded Christians to help the poor and meek and to not horde wealth. Other than "the government can't" the other argument in this thread is "I don't have any other plan to help but it's my money and I need it now!"

That's Satanic.

[Night Strike]

Everyone look, phatscotty doesn't have any way to actually argue with the law without looking like Satan!

That's what happens when society has devolved to the point where everyone is dependent upon the government for everything: when you want to reign in the government, you're automatically painted as Satan and hating poor people.

I was actually making the point that Jesus commanded Christians to help the poor and meek and to not horde wealth. Other than "the government can't" the other argument in this thread is "I don't have any other plan to help but it's my money and I need it now!"

That's Satanic.

Exactly, it's up to people to help people, not the government. And, if the government would stop taking so much money and mandating what we purchase, people would have more money to be able to help other people. The government is actively working to replace people helping people through charity while also expanding their own authority to control everything. It's a cycle that will make us wholly-dependent unless we break it soon.

[BigBallinStalin]

Everyone look, phatscotty doesn't have any way to actually argue with the law without looking like Satan!

That's what happens when society has devolved to the point where everyone is dependent upon the government for everything: when you want to reign in the government, you're automatically painted as Satan and hating poor people.

I was actually making the point that Jesus commanded Christians to help the poor and meek and to not horde wealth. Other than "the government can't" the other argument in this thread is "I don't have any other plan to help but it's my money and I need it now!"

That's Satanic.

No, you just stated a straw man fallacy. Would you like to try again?

[Juan_Bottom]

Everyone look, phatscotty doesn't have any way to actually argue with the law without looking like Satan!

That's what happens when society has devolved to the point where everyone is dependent upon the government for everything: when you want to reign in the government, you're automatically painted as Satan and hating poor people.

I was actually making the point that Jesus commanded Christians to help the poor and meek and to not horde wealth. Other than "the government can't" the other argument in this thread is "I don't have any other plan to help but it's my money and I need it now!"

That's Satanic.

Exactly, it's up to people to help people, not the government. And, if the government would stop taking so much money and mandating what we purchase, people would have more money to be able to help other people. The government is actively working to replace people helping people through charity while also expanding their own authority to control everything. It's a cycle that will make us wholly-dependent unless we break it soon.

1st, individuals aren't helping the poor. We're f*cking them over, really.

2nd, "We the people" are the government.

If Jesus were real, and here, I have no doubt that he'd support the law. Do you?

[Juan_Bottom]

& what would he say?

[BigBallinStalin]

Everyone look, phatscotty doesn't have any way to actually argue with the law without looking like Satan!

That's what happens when society has devolved to the point where everyone is dependent upon the government for everything: when you want to reign in the government, you're automatically painted as Satan and hating poor people.

I was actually making the point that Jesus commanded Christians to help the poor and meek and to not horde wealth. Other than "the government can't" the other argument in this thread is "I don't have any other plan to help but it's my money and I need it now!"

That's Satanic.

No, you just stated a straw man fallacy. Would you like to try again?

Or am I being too hopeful to expect something serious from you?

It's amazing that PS and NS still talk to you after your barrages of propaganda points. I guess that's part of your plan, right?

[Phatscotty]

[WILLIAMS5232]

THIS JUST IN!

i'd vote for this democrat...

[Woodruff]

Everyone look, phatscotty doesn't have any way to actually argue with the law without looking like Satan!

That's what happens when society has devolved to the point where everyone is dependent upon the government for everything

Everyone is dependent upon the government for everything? Does your hyperbole EVER get old, Night Strike? I'd think you'd get sick of being called out for it so often.

when you want to reign in the government, you're automatically painted as Satan and hating poor people.

No, that's definitely not it.

[Woodruff]

Everyone look, phatscotty doesn't have any way to actually argue with the law without looking like Satan!

That's what happens when society has devolved to the point where everyone is dependent upon the government for everything: when you want to reign in the government, you're automatically painted as Satan and hating poor people.

I was actually making the point that Jesus commanded Christians to help the poor and meek and to not horde wealth. Other than "the government can't" the other argument in this thread is "I don't have any other plan to help but it's my money and I need it now!"

That's Satanic.

No, you just stated a straw man fallacy. Would you like to try again?

Or am I being too hopeful to expect something serious from you?

It's amazing that PS and NS still talk to you after your barrages of propaganda points. I guess that's part of your plan, right?

Is this a comedy act of some sort?

[Woodruff]

THIS JUST IN!

i'd vote for this democrat...

Honestly, that seems like a very irresponsible action. Especially given that he's apparently violating a court order by doing that.

[Lootifer]

In a two party political environment when you want to reign in the government, you're automatically painted as Satan and hating poor people because the ignorant masses feed off inflammatory sound bites

Fixed.

No rational individual believes that each other are satan for making policy suggestions based on their political alignment. But 2 party politics is seldom appealing to the rational punter.

FYI my examples of rational and irrational conservative right americans on this forum:

Rational: Nobunga, yourself
Irrational: Phatscotty

[Woodruff]

In a two party political environment when you want to reign in the government, you're automatically painted as Satan and hating poor people because the ignorant masses feed off inflammatory sound bites

Fixed.

No rational individual believes that each other are satan for making policy suggestions based on their political alignment. But 2 party politics is seldom appealing to the rational punter.

FYI my examples of rational and irrational conservative right americans on this forum:

Rational: Nobunga, yourself
Irrational: Phatscotty

I would posit the rational SOCIALLY conservative more as (in no particular order):
Nobunaga
rockfist
daddy1gringo
WILLIAMS5232
patches70
Doc_Brown (I'm not sure of his conservatism actually, but I get the impression he is for some reason)
kentington (I'm not sure of his conservatism actually, but I get the impression he is for some reason)
2dimes (I'm not sure of his conservatism actually, but I get the impression he is for some reason)
And there's one other socially conservative poster that I consider pretty rational, but for the life of me I cannot think of the name (or the avatar, which would give me the name).

I'm actually pretty satisfied with the "state" of socially conservative posters on these fora. It's just highly unfortunate that the irrational among them outpace the rational by so much.

[BigBallinStalin]

Is this a comedy act of some sort?

My theory:

(1) PS, NS, PLAYER, and JB are at the same debate level. They're a perfect foursome.

[BigBallinStalin]

Doc Brown said he was a libertarian.

[spurgistan]

Gotta say, not a huge fan of the labeling people thing. With very few exceptions, it seems better to me to be able to judge posters not by the content of their character, but by the content of their posts, to mangle a wonderful quote by the good Dr. King. Also, I think 2dimes (among others) would bristle at the allegation that he's a social conservative (and further add that we're using American definitions of the term)

[Woodruff]

Doc Brown said he was a libertarian.

That's right, now that you say that, I do remember it.

[Woodruff]

Gotta say, not a huge fan of the labeling people thing. With very few exceptions, it seems better to me to be able to judge posters not by the content of their character, but by the content of their posts, to mangle a wonderful quote by the good Dr. King. Also, I think 2dimes (among others) would bristle at the allegation that he's a social conservative (and further add that we're using American definitions of the term)

Sure, I agree. I was simply trying to point out that the "conservative bent" here on CC shouldn't get the anchor of Phatscotty and Night Strike hung on their neck just because they're the most vocal. I was trying to point out that there are a number of conservative posters here who are reasonable and rational while still being able to maintain generally conservative positions. I couldn't really make that case without "labeling" them as conservatives.

And I really have had the impression that 2dimes is a social conservative, but that he tends toward not imposing those social views on others. That doesn't make him not socially conservative, merely of the sort who doesn't want to force everyone else to live that way. I certainly could be wrong about that, of course...which was why I suggested in my post that I could be wrong about it.