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AAFitz wrote:Is anyone in here for or against that ban, actually arguing that that was not full fledged trolling in the exact definition of the word trolling?

Really.

Hey, have your fun, but break the rules and do your time. Its such a simple concept.

=D> for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.

And if I had to guess, it was the part about the homosexuals that you tried to sneak in that gave them an easy opportunity.
Anyone posting that and not expecting a ban has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever, or...has never been on this forum before.

Oh, and for anyone who just doesnt get it, unless the situation is not clear..

Make a trolling thread about swatstikas, killing jews, hating homosexuals...and you will probably be banned....

Hope that helps.
Yes, but what about free speech? Free speech! Free speech!!

Are you honestly saying that if I make a post about one-eyed, one-legged, bi-sexual, transgender fluffers in a forum devoted (soley) to the game of Risk I am in danger of a ban? Well, I think it is YOU that is the Nazi! I do! I really, really do! I'm as serious as a German in a sausage shop discussing Poland in an exceptionally serious manner about this thing. To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not sure I can express just how serious I am about both Germans, sausages as well as transgendered German sausages in a way that relates to free speech in a stronger fashion than I just have.
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Mr Changsha wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Is anyone in here for or against that ban, actually arguing that that was not full fledged trolling in the exact definition of the word trolling?

Really.

Hey, have your fun, but break the rules and do your time. Its such a simple concept.

=D> for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.

And if I had to guess, it was the part about the homosexuals that you tried to sneak in that gave them an easy opportunity.
Anyone posting that and not expecting a ban has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever, or...has never been on this forum before.

Oh, and for anyone who just doesnt get it, unless the situation is not clear..

Make a trolling thread about swatstikas, killing jews, hating homosexuals...and you will probably be banned....

Hope that helps.
Yes, but what about free speech? Free speech! Free speech!!

Are you honestly saying that if I make a post about one-eyed, one-legged, bi-sexual, transgender fluffers in a forum devoted (soley) to the game of Risk I am in danger of a ban? Well, I think it is YOU that is the Nazi! I do! I really, really do! I'm as serious as a German in a sausage shop discussing Poland in an exceptionally serious manner about this thing. To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not sure I can express just how serious I am about both Germans, sausages as well as transgendered German sausages in a way that relates to free speech in a stronger fashion than I just have.
Im all for free speech, but free speech has nothing to do with a forum in a privately owned gaming site. Freespeech is allowed in public, and in his private home, and anywhere where someone allows it. He can certainly go a lot further than he has there.

He can go to Washington and post a big sign that says whatever he wants about anyone he wants if its just his opinion. He can even tell a cop what he thinks of him. THAT is free speech, and Im all for it, and will be right there with you protecting it, if someone infringes on that right.

This is a privately supplied forum, and a business to boot. While he can post that sign in Washington, he may very well not be able to bring it into a starbucks, because they have their rights too, as does CC. They can hold the same sign on the street in front of my yard. I have no control over that. However, I can ask them to leave if they are in my yard. That is my right.

It is actually you who are advocating removing rights, by suggesting that CC does not have the right to allow, or disallow certain content. I am here because it is CC's rights being questioned. Not hahahaha's. He knew the rules as do we all.

More importantly, it was not only the content of what he posted that was important, it was the clear and obvious intent to troll with it that got him banned. It wasnt the mention of a swastika, jews, or homophobia or a discussion of them that was against the rules, but the obvious intent of trolling in how they were discussed. Quite simply, he didn't do a good job of it. It easily could have been crafted in a way that did not break CC guidelines.

As far as the german sausage propaganda... thats over my head, so Im just going to blow it off.
(dont, just dont go there.)
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Ed received a forum vacation too.

I wanted to provide a bad movie he did to get such a ban...but seriously cannot think of one.
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Mr Changsha wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Is anyone in here for or against that ban, actually arguing that that was not full fledged trolling in the exact definition of the word trolling?

Really.

Hey, have your fun, but break the rules and do your time. Its such a simple concept.

=D> for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.

And if I had to guess, it was the part about the homosexuals that you tried to sneak in that gave them an easy opportunity.
Anyone posting that and not expecting a ban has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever, or...has never been on this forum before.

Oh, and for anyone who just doesnt get it, unless the situation is not clear..

Make a trolling thread about swatstikas, killing jews, hating homosexuals...and you will probably be banned....

Hope that helps.
Yes, but what about free speech? Free speech! Free speech!!

Are you honestly saying that if I make a post about one-eyed, one-legged, bi-sexual, transgender fluffers in a forum devoted (soley) to the game of Risk I am in danger of a ban? Well, I think it is YOU that is the Nazi! I do! I really, really do! I'm as serious as a German in a sausage shop discussing Poland in an exceptionally serious manner about this thing. To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not sure I can express just how serious I am about both Germans, sausages as well as transgendered German sausages in a way that relates to free speech in a stronger fashion than I just have.
I bet you are at least this serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d13WogMCyA
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MeDeFe wrote: I bet you are at least this serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d13WogMCyA
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Interestingly worded warning hahaha3. Mine only said fuch off. Leave. :shock:
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MeDeFe wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Is anyone in here for or against that ban, actually arguing that that was not full fledged trolling in the exact definition of the word trolling?

Really.

Hey, have your fun, but break the rules and do your time. Its such a simple concept.

=D> for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.

And if I had to guess, it was the part about the homosexuals that you tried to sneak in that gave them an easy opportunity.
Anyone posting that and not expecting a ban has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever, or...has never been on this forum before.

Oh, and for anyone who just doesnt get it, unless the situation is not clear..

Make a trolling thread about swatstikas, killing jews, hating homosexuals...and you will probably be banned....

Hope that helps.
Yes, but what about free speech? Free speech! Free speech!!

Are you honestly saying that if I make a post about one-eyed, one-legged, bi-sexual, transgender fluffers in a forum devoted (soley) to the game of Risk I am in danger of a ban? Well, I think it is YOU that is the Nazi! I do! I really, really do! I'm as serious as a German in a sausage shop discussing Poland in an exceptionally serious manner about this thing. To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not sure I can express just how serious I am about both Germans, sausages as well as transgendered German sausages in a way that relates to free speech in a stronger fashion than I just have.
I bet you are at least this serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d13WogMCyA
he is certainly no more serious than that.
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AAFitz wrote:Is anyone in here for or against that ban, actually arguing that that was not full fledged trolling in the exact definition of the word trolling?

Really.

Hey, have your fun, but break the rules and do your time. Its such a simple concept.

=D> for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.

And if I had to guess, it was the part about the homosexuals that you tried to sneak in that gave them an easy opportunity.
Anyone posting that and not expecting a ban has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever, or...has never been on this forum before.

Oh, and for anyone who just doesnt get it, unless the situation is not clear..

Make a trolling thread about swatstikas, killing jews, hating homosexuals...and you will probably be banned....

Hope that helps.
That was my interpretation of what a swastika represented. The prupose of the thread was to find out CC's stance on them, I just added my own feelings on it, displaying why I thought their stance on it was too harsh. All you just proved to me is that you're either a homosexual or a Jew (which I have no problem with, despite common belief).
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AAFitz wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Is anyone in here for or against that ban, actually arguing that that was not full fledged trolling in the exact definition of the word trolling?

Really.

Hey, have your fun, but break the rules and do your time. Its such a simple concept.

=D> for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.

And if I had to guess, it was the part about the homosexuals that you tried to sneak in that gave them an easy opportunity.
Anyone posting that and not expecting a ban has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever, or...has never been on this forum before.

Oh, and for anyone who just doesnt get it, unless the situation is not clear..

Make a trolling thread about swatstikas, killing jews, hating homosexuals...and you will probably be banned....

Hope that helps.
Yes, but what about free speech? Free speech! Free speech!!

Are you honestly saying that if I make a post about one-eyed, one-legged, bi-sexual, transgender fluffers in a forum devoted (soley) to the game of Risk I am in danger of a ban? Well, I think it is YOU that is the Nazi! I do! I really, really do! I'm as serious as a German in a sausage shop discussing Poland in an exceptionally serious manner about this thing. To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not sure I can express just how serious I am about both Germans, sausages as well as transgendered German sausages in a way that relates to free speech in a stronger fashion than I just have.
Im all for free speech, but free speech has nothing to do with a forum in a privately owned gaming site. Freespeech is allowed in public, and in his private home, and anywhere where someone allows it. He can certainly go a lot further than he has there.

He can go to Washington and post a big sign that says whatever he wants about anyone he wants if its just his opinion. He can even tell a cop what he thinks of him. THAT is free speech, and Im all for it, and will be right there with you protecting it, if someone infringes on that right.

This is a privately supplied forum, and a business to boot. While he can post that sign in Washington, he may very well not be able to bring it into a starbucks, because they have their rights too, as does CC. They can hold the same sign on the street in front of my yard. I have no control over that. However, I can ask them to leave if they are in my yard. That is my right.

It is actually you who are advocating removing rights, by suggesting that CC does not have the right to allow, or disallow certain content. I am here because it is CC's rights being questioned. Not hahahaha's. He knew the rules as do we all.

More importantly, it was not only the content of what he posted that was important, it was the clear and obvious intent to troll with it that got him banned. It wasnt the mention of a swastika, jews, or homophobia or a discussion of them that was against the rules, but the obvious intent of trolling in how they were discussed. Quite simply, he didn't do a good job of it. It easily could have been crafted in a way that did not break CC guidelines.

As far as the german sausage propaganda... thats over my head, so Im just going to blow it off.
(dont, just dont go there.)

fitz, i love ya buddy. but i cant tolerate reading your lengthy posts. cant you fucking summarize once in a while? maybe a cliff note version?
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I don't know if this has been said yet or if it matters, but wasn't the Swastika a symbol for many eastern faiths such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Shamanism , etc. and represents many things including evolution of the universe and eternity.
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Crazyirishman wrote:I don't know if this has been said yet or if it matters, but wasn't the Swastika a symbol for many eastern faiths such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Shamanism , etc. and represents many things including evolution of the universe and eternity.
Yeah, I was talking about the Hindi ones I swear 8-[
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Crazyirishman wrote:I don't know if this has been said yet or if it matters, but wasn't the Swastika a symbol for many eastern faiths such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Shamanism , etc. and represents many things including evolution of the universe and eternity.
Hindu Hakenkreuz.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ka.svg.png

The Nazi swasi is definitely a variance but is still it's own distinct symbol.
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ronc8649 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Is anyone in here for or against that ban, actually arguing that that was not full fledged trolling in the exact definition of the word trolling?

Really.

Hey, have your fun, but break the rules and do your time. Its such a simple concept.

=D> for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.

And if I had to guess, it was the part about the homosexuals that you tried to sneak in that gave them an easy opportunity.
Anyone posting that and not expecting a ban has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever, or...has never been on this forum before.

Oh, and for anyone who just doesnt get it, unless the situation is not clear..

Make a trolling thread about swatstikas, killing jews, hating homosexuals...and you will probably be banned....

Hope that helps.
Yes, but what about free speech? Free speech! Free speech!!

Are you honestly saying that if I make a post about one-eyed, one-legged, bi-sexual, transgender fluffers in a forum devoted (soley) to the game of Risk I am in danger of a ban? Well, I think it is YOU that is the Nazi! I do! I really, really do! I'm as serious as a German in a sausage shop discussing Poland in an exceptionally serious manner about this thing. To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not sure I can express just how serious I am about both Germans, sausages as well as transgendered German sausages in a way that relates to free speech in a stronger fashion than I just have.
Im all for free speech, but free speech has nothing to do with a forum in a privately owned gaming site. Freespeech is allowed in public, and in his private home, and anywhere where someone allows it. He can certainly go a lot further than he has there.

He can go to Washington and post a big sign that says whatever he wants about anyone he wants if its just his opinion. He can even tell a cop what he thinks of him. THAT is free speech, and Im all for it, and will be right there with you protecting it, if someone infringes on that right.

This is a privately supplied forum, and a business to boot. While he can post that sign in Washington, he may very well not be able to bring it into a starbucks, because they have their rights too, as does CC. They can hold the same sign on the street in front of my yard. I have no control over that. However, I can ask them to leave if they are in my yard. That is my right.

It is actually you who are advocating removing rights, by suggesting that CC does not have the right to allow, or disallow certain content. I am here because it is CC's rights being questioned. Not hahahaha's. He knew the rules as do we all.

More importantly, it was not only the content of what he posted that was important, it was the clear and obvious intent to troll with it that got him banned. It wasnt the mention of a swastika, jews, or homophobia or a discussion of them that was against the rules, but the obvious intent of trolling in how they were discussed. Quite simply, he didn't do a good job of it. It easily could have been crafted in a way that did not break CC guidelines.

As far as the german sausage propaganda... thats over my head, so Im just going to blow it off.
(dont, just dont go there.)

fitz, i love ya buddy. but i cant tolerate reading your lengthy posts. cant you fucking summarize once in a while? maybe a cliff note version?
No, not really. :oops:
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hahaha3hahaha wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Is anyone in here for or against that ban, actually arguing that that was not full fledged trolling in the exact definition of the word trolling?

Really.

Hey, have your fun, but break the rules and do your time. Its such a simple concept.

=D> for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.

And if I had to guess, it was the part about the homosexuals that you tried to sneak in that gave them an easy opportunity.
Anyone posting that and not expecting a ban has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever, or...has never been on this forum before.

Oh, and for anyone who just doesnt get it, unless the situation is not clear..

Make a trolling thread about swatstikas, killing jews, hating homosexuals...and you will probably be banned....

Hope that helps.
That was my interpretation of what a swastika represented. The prupose of the thread was to find out CC's stance on them, I just added my own feelings on it, displaying why I thought their stance on it was too harsh. All you just proved to me is that you're either a homosexual or a Jew (which I have no problem with, despite common belief).
Your purpose was to troll, not discuss anything, which is why you were given a day off or so. My race, creed, color or sexual orientation has nothing to do with my comments.

All you've proved is you aren't willing to accept responsibility for your actions...and perhaps that you jump to conclusions too easily. In any case, its one thing to troll. Its quite another to defend it as some honest attempt at a genuine discussion. One is just trolling, no big deal really, minus the obvious homophobic and racist intent, the other..well, gives some further insight into character, doesn't it? Though realistically, its probably just more trolling, so have your fun, if that is what you find fun I guess.
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hahaha3hahaha wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Is anyone in here for or against that ban, actually arguing that that was not full fledged trolling in the exact definition of the word trolling?

Really.

Hey, have your fun, but break the rules and do your time. Its such a simple concept.

=D> for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.

And if I had to guess, it was the part about the homosexuals that you tried to sneak in that gave them an easy opportunity.
Anyone posting that and not expecting a ban has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever, or...has never been on this forum before.

Oh, and for anyone who just doesnt get it, unless the situation is not clear..

Make a trolling thread about swatstikas, killing jews, hating homosexuals...and you will probably be banned....

Hope that helps.
That was my interpretation of what a swastika represented. The prupose of the thread was to find out CC's stance on them, I just added my own feelings on it, displaying why I thought their stance on it was too harsh. All you just proved to me is that you're either a homosexual or a Jew (which I have no problem with, despite common belief).
Your purpose was to troll. And to try to sneak some homophobic and possibly racist comments in as well. It was not to actually discuss anything, which is why you were given a little vacation, but mostly because you just didnt do a very good job of it. However, my race, creed, color or sexual orientation have nothing to do with my comments, which really just summarize what you did and why you were punished. However, it makes me wonder if you were discussing hindu monks, and I defended them as well, if it would have "proven" to you that I must be a hindu monk. Do you honestly believe that any that stand up against something, must be in that particular group? Or is it that you are so short sighted, that you can not conceive of someone not only tolerating another group, but actually taking their time to stand up with them to fight people like yourself?

And here's one more piece of information, that you seem to need: Jews, Homosexuals or any other group, simply do not care if you have a problem with them or not. If you do, it is your problem, not theirs.

All you've proved is you aren't willing to accept responsibility for your actions...and perhaps that you jump to conclusions too easily. In any case, its one thing to troll. Its quite another to defend it as some honest attempt at a genuine discussion. One is just trolling, no big deal really, minus the obvious homophobic and racist intent, the other..well, gives some further insight into character, doesn't it? Though realistically, its probably just more trolling, so have your fun, if that is what you find fun I guess. But if you cross the line, you'll just have to take a few days off from it again.
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New postby AAFitz on Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:21 pm
AAFitz wrote:Your purpose was to troll, not discuss anything, which is why you were given a day off or so. My race, creed, color or sexual orientation has nothing to do with my comments.

All you've proved is you aren't willing to accept responsibility for your actions...and perhaps that you jump to conclusions too easily. In any case, its one thing to troll. Its quite another to defend it as some honest attempt at a genuine discussion. One is just trolling, no big deal really, minus the obvious homophobic and racist intent, the other..well, gives some further insight into character, doesn't it? Though realistically, its probably just more trolling, so have your fun, if that is what you find fun I guess.
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New postby AAFitz on Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:22 pm
AAFitz wrote: Your purpose was to troll. And to try to sneak some homophobic and possibly racist comments in as well. It was not to actually discuss anything, which is why you were given a little vacation, but mostly because you just didnt do a very good job of it. However, my race, creed, color or sexual orientation have nothing to do with my comments, which really just summarize what you did and why you were punished. However, it makes me wonder if you were discussing hindu monks, and I defended them as well, if it would have "proven" to you that I must be a hindu monk. Do you honestly believe that any that stand up against something, must be in that particular group? Or is it that you are so short sighted, that you can not conceive of someone not only tolerating another group, but actually taking their time to stand up with them to fight people like yourself?

And here's one more piece of information, that you seem to need: Jews, Homosexuals or any other group, simply do not care if you have a problem with them or not. If you do, it is your problem, not theirs.

All you've proved is you aren't willing to accept responsibility for your actions...and perhaps that you jump to conclusions too easily. In any case, its one thing to troll. Its quite another to defend it as some honest attempt at a genuine discussion. One is just trolling, no big deal really, minus the obvious homophobic and racist intent, the other..well, gives some further insight into character, doesn't it? Though realistically, its probably just more trolling, so have your fun, if that is what you find fun I guess. But if you cross the line, you'll just have to take a few days off from it again.
Damn, Fitz! In one minute your original post grew 2x in length. I wouldn't be surprised to find that you have calloused fingertips. Does your keyboard wear out every few months?

Nah, maybe your typing speed isn't as ridiculous as that...
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hahaha3hahaha wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Is anyone in here for or against that ban, actually arguing that that was not full fledged trolling in the exact definition of the word trolling?

Really.

Hey, have your fun, but break the rules and do your time. Its such a simple concept.

=D> for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.

And if I had to guess, it was the part about the homosexuals that you tried to sneak in that gave them an easy opportunity.
Anyone posting that and not expecting a ban has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever, or...has never been on this forum before.

Oh, and for anyone who just doesnt get it, unless the situation is not clear..

Make a trolling thread about swatstikas, killing jews, hating homosexuals...and you will probably be banned....

Hope that helps.
That was my interpretation of what a swastika represented. The prupose of the thread was to find out CC's stance on them, I just added my own feelings on it, displaying why I thought their stance on it was too harsh. All you just proved to me is that you're either a homosexual or a Jew (which I have no problem with, despite common belief).



But that's the problem ha's your thread wasn't anything to do with the swastika as a historical, religious symbol.

Quote from haha's thread...

"For example; modern day Neo-Nazis; are they still known as pure anti-semitists? NO. Maybe there are still groups existing today that carry on that line, but what about the ones that fight against things like prostitution and homosexuality- I think those are very fair causes."

It wasn't just a reasoned discussion about using the swastika as a symbol....

You are condoning gay bashing (and what you've got against hookers I'll never know) by neo-Nazi groups
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AAFitz wrote: And here's one more piece of information, that you seem to need: Jews, Homosexuals or any other group, simply do not care if you have a problem with them or not. If you do, it is your problem, not theirs.
I wish this were true, it would solve a lot of problems, but i don't think it is. If this were the case, surely they wouldn't get offended by someone stating they have a problem with them.
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StephenB wrote:
AAFitz wrote: And here's one more piece of information, that you seem to need: Jews, Homosexuals or any other group, simply do not care if you have a problem with them or not. If you do, it is your problem, not theirs.
I wish this were true, it would solve a lot of problems, but i don't think it is. If this were the case, surely they wouldn't get offended by someone stating they have a problem with them.
It is true, actually. Collectively, no group cares what one person thinks, certainly not haha, nor yourself. Individually however, some people may or may not get offended for a great number of reasons, but their affiliation to anyone group is irrelevant and not necessarily the reason for them being offended, or more importantly, stating their offense.

There is a big difference between arguing against a stupid post, and actually being offended, or as I said, actually caring what your thoughts are. I myself certainly don't care what you think about any group, or any person, how racist, homophobic, or otherwise bigoted you may or not be...whether Im in it that group or not. Your opinions are your opinions, and I as do most, have plenty of better things to worry about what you think about anything. However, that does not mean I do not enjoy pointing out things you say that are offensive about another group. That is a completely different situation, and while you seem to enjoy pointing out differences in groups and perhaps poking fun at them, I find my entertainment in pointing out how that makes you ignorant. That doesn't mean I care about what you think about them for one second.

If you confuse that people enjoy arguing against such things, with actually caring about what the person thinks, you are deluding yourself. Its just that while you entertain yourself looking for reasons to poke fun of those different than yourselves, that you may perceive to be less than yourself, others simply enjoy entertaining themselves by pointing out your failings...which typically in a situation like this, would be more based on character, than physical attributes or race.

You are also wrongly assuming people are offended, when they may very well only be stating to be offended. While you may very well care what others think about you, that does not mean others care what you think about them. Its a common misconception, and often made by people with very limited knowledge and experience, not to say that you necessarily lack either.
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StephenB wrote:
clapper011 wrote:Stop trolling.. I was in no way saying that they were NOT trolling. They in fact were trolling.

Oh and clapper, it looks a bit weird when you capitalize the first letter of some sentences but not others. Just letting you know.
Which part of Claps post didn't have capitals at the start of the sentences... I see 2 sentences - each beginning with capital letters... you even quoted it above?!

Are you perhaps referring to the letter I? - Which should always be capitalised if talking about oneself?!

Even if I were writing "i" in the middle of the sentence, I would capitalise the i.

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Who decides whether or not the group on a whole is offended by something if not the individuals of that group? In my opinion, if enough people of a group get offended by something, it is safe to say that that group of people is offended by whatever the thing may be. For example, a lot of black people are offended by the N-word, so I would say that generally black people are offended by the word. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm fully aware that you aren't offended just because you argue the point on the internet, I was talking about people in real life who get offended. Topics like this make for good conversations in forums.
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