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What you have both missed, is that when it came out, nothing like it had ever been seen. It was completely original, and had special effects that simply made space look real, perhaps for the first time ever.natty_dread wrote:I absolutely fucking agree. Watching that piece of crap was the biggest waste of time in my entire life.2001: A Space Odyssey is the absolute most boring, slow-moving, painful movie I've ever had the misfortune of watching. It's a movie built around one (very good, but very over-hyped) line. That's it. It's a movie of one line. Should never have been produced.
I voted for Matrix and the old star wars.
Ps. I'm a bit surprised Avatar wasn't in the vote. I at least liked it better than the new star wars movies, which were very meh IMO.
All time travel plots are crap.jonesthecurl wrote:Well, I don't like any of 'em, but many people are very fond of the Charlton Heston version. I have at least a half-hour rant ready at hand any time about why the plot is shit. (makeup great, some great acting, but the plot is seriously crap).muy_thaiguy wrote:First Planet of the Apes, or the entire series?jonesthecurl wrote:I know there's a limit on how many you ccan list in a poll, but I would like to give an honorable mention to:
Starship Troopers
Mars Attack
The Day the Earth Stood Still (original version)
The Truman Show
Dark Star
and, even though I don't like any of 'em, I'da thought Planet of the Apes would make the poll.
No, I recognize the great cinematography. I'm speaking solely of the STORY ITSELF. Like someone else mentioned, the book is undoubtedly far better, because THINGS MIGHT ACTUALLY BE EXPLAINED in the book. Perhaps this is one of those "if you haven't read the book, don't bother" movies.AAFitz wrote:What you have both missed, is that when it came out, nothing like it had ever been seen. It was completely original, and had special effects that simply made space look real, perhaps for the first time ever.natty_dread wrote:I absolutely fucking agree. Watching that piece of crap was the biggest waste of time in my entire life.2001: A Space Odyssey is the absolute most boring, slow-moving, painful movie I've ever had the misfortune of watching. It's a movie built around one (very good, but very over-hyped) line. That's it. It's a movie of one line. Should never have been produced.
A little longer? 2001 made Star Trek: The Motionless Picture look like a veritable cacophany of action.AAFitz wrote:I do agree 2001 should just have a revamped condensed version, but the idea of it is so mind boggling, and so intriguing, that it simply cant be discounted so easily. You just have to accept that it takes a little longer to deliver the story, but mostly because it was new technology, and they were showing it off.
I've thought about Predator - But I don't think it's a science fiction film. It's an action film with a monster.GabonX wrote:No Predator?
Didn't that intellectual research guy in T2 say that they couldn't get the leftovers from the first movie to work, but that it inspired them? I don't recall them using it to build anything.AAFitz wrote:All time travel plots are crap.
Terminator two is the worst, though hidden in a great movie. They use the chip from the first terminator to make skynet. Its ludicrous. If they needed that chip, then there wouldnt be skynet in the first place, and no terminator to go back in time to give the chip to get it created, or at least not exactly the same one that would have meant the terminators as they were. Term 3 trys to address this with a most ridiculous "fate" plot, but is not successful.
The term 2 movie was so damn good though, that it was an easy thing to overlook.
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perhaps it was inevitable that human would create AI at some point, and also inevitable that AI would try to exterminate humans. I know that is reaching but what the hell. I thought T3 sucked the mostMeDeFe wrote:Didn't that intellectual research guy in T2 say that they couldn't get the leftovers from the first movie to work, but that it inspired them? I don't recall them using it to build anything.AAFitz wrote:All time travel plots are crap.
Terminator two is the worst, though hidden in a great movie. They use the chip from the first terminator to make skynet. Its ludicrous. If they needed that chip, then there wouldnt be skynet in the first place, and no terminator to go back in time to give the chip to get it created, or at least not exactly the same one that would have meant the terminators as they were. Term 3 trys to address this with a most ridiculous "fate" plot, but is not successful.
The term 2 movie was so damn good though, that it was an easy thing to overlook.
ST1 kicked ass and had something special about it.jonesthecurl wrote:Did anyone see the Starship Troopers sequels?
ST2 was barely watchable, but I recently got ST3 and finally watched the whole thing about two nights ago. It's good. different to the first one, but I enjoyed a whole lot.
Why is Dune on this poll even? How can Dune even be on ANY "best" list of movies? In any of it's iterations?Phatscotty wrote: dune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAmjkr4RISU
it's my dark horse. I know there were problems with the original release, but have you seen the new special edition? puts a lot more together. it also stands out as unique and often times surpasses in many ways compared to the rest of the choices (adult content/gore/homosexuality).Woodruff wrote:Why is Dune on this poll even? How can Dune even be on ANY "best" list of movies? In any of it's iterations?Phatscotty wrote: dune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAmjkr4RISU
Yesmuy_thaiguy wrote:Mystery Science Theater 3000.
I do find it irksome that it is tied with Star Trek, no doubt...but not because of Mr Spock, but rather because of Dune's utter...gads, my eyes are bleeding just thinking about it.Phatscotty wrote:it's my dark horse. I know there were problems with the original release, but have you seen the new special edition? puts a lot more together. it also stands out as unique and often times surpasses in many ways compared to the rest of the choices (adult content/gore/homosexuality).Woodruff wrote:Why is Dune on this poll even? How can Dune even be on ANY "best" list of movies? In any of it's iterations?Phatscotty wrote: dune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAmjkr4RISU
at least it is tied with Star Trek! I think you are just jealous it has 4 votes and therefore forces a tie with MR spock for dead last!
Yeah, 12 Monkeys and The Fly were both great films. I don't know if you could necesarily count the Mad Max films as sci-fi. They're post apocolyptic but there's no science fiction in the mix. In 12 Monkeys they've mastered (sort of) time travel.army of nobunaga wrote:1. 5th element
2. star trek (all of them =D nerd alert!)
3) pitch black
4) running man (just for the dialog)
5) pandorum
6) 12 monkeys
7) gattica
mad max
9) the fly
10) ghost in the machine
edit damn, I have to mix dune in the top 5 somewhere.
About time someone posted this. About fucking time.army of nobunaga wrote:7) gattica
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