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General Quigley
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by General Quigley »

Nicestash, I appreciate your stating your reasons for favoring automatic over manual deployment. I read and considered what you wrote carefully, but remain unconvinced.

"Manual deployment is not a skill based option, and the vast majority of players would agree with me."

Assertion followed by Appeal to Authority (majority of players) logic fallacy.

"Because of this, manual drop is barred from basically every clan war (I've never seen a clan war where it is allowed) and very few tournament directors incorporate it into their tourneys."

Appeal to Authority (clan war directors and tournament directors) logic fallacy. Just because tournament directors seldom use manual drop does not prove it is a bad idea. I suspect tournament directors at this site are in the throws of "group think" (see Wikipedia article on this topic).

"The reason why manual deployment is so unpopular is because of the high frequency of "noobing"."

Unpopular among whom? Those with artificially inflated ratings? Sources of ratings inflation have been listed previously by me in this thread. I won't belabor my points. I frequently get called a "noob" despite years of playing at CC simply because I don't subscribe to the group think assumptions and mentality of the artificially highly rated. Being called a noob has not lead me to adopt their thinking. Nor have their artificially inflated ratings.

"Noobing is where a player (usually inexperienced) attacks a stack with their own, completely destroying any chance either player had of winning."

One of the many group think assumptions of the artificially highly rated is that it is always wrong to attack a nearby stack. This is insultingly called noobing by those unable to think outside their little boxes. It is often, perhaps even usually, wrong to attack stacks, I agree, but not always, and I can easily imagine a set of circumstances where it could be right.

"With a manual drop, players generally cluster their troops into somewhere between 1-3 regions, so one instance of noobing can be absolutely devastating. While it is possible to leave 3s on each region like in standard deployment, this puts a player at an equally heightened disadvantage-everyone else is more compact, and as they look to take a bonus, they feel no qualms with taking out a 3 because the bonus will yield a much larger bonus."

Finally, we are given an argument based on reason rather than rhetoric (logical fallacy)! I agree with everything you wrote here, but I see it as an argument in favor of skill in manual deployment. Is it better to place 3 troops everywhere? You say no because this leaves one too weak everywhere and one's 3s get knocked out by the players with stacks. So you must place your troops in 1 to 3 drops. But how many? And which is best for which map given various chances factors: 1, 2, or 3? These are key strategic questions that need skill and judgement, perhaps even experience, for determination.

"Some players claim that there is a lot of "skill" in determining the drop, but this can only be argued to apply in 1v1 or team games. With 8 players it's impossible to predict where everyone will start meaning no matter what you do, you can very easily be noobed."

I am one of those players that make this claim for the use of skill in determining the drop. If you make your big drop on a Standard 42-country world map in Australia or South America, probably even in Africa in an 8-player game, you increase your chance of being noobed. Even novices know it is good to go for easy bonus territories. In an American Civil War game, drop your stack in New England, Texas, Maryland, or Virginia, and yes, someone will likely have his stack nearby and you will have a rough time. Put your stack in the Badlands or on the ships, and you have only maybe one person to defeat (or avoid) who thought likewise. You are better positioned to win the game of survival, and yes nuclear is more a game of survival (particularly on small maps) than any other variation. Every map has nuances like this.

Sure, bad luck in finding your stack surrounded by other player's stacks can lead to early defeat. However, it remains my opinion that skill in original placement, and subsequent avoidance vs. confrontation decisions, and how one goes about this (leaving stacks next to others stacks is often insufficient avoidance) more determines the game's outcome than the luck factor of where other players drop stacks.

In sum, while I concede that their is a bad luck factor of being "noobed" out of a game early on, I still believe there are more skill factors involved, and that these factors more than compensate. So far the voting is

Manual deployment - General Quigley
Automatic deployment - nice stash
a 50/50 combination of both - Alex Everard

If no majority votes on a change, I will leave things as they are. I will extend voting one additional day to provide voters one last chance to get their vote in if they wish to, and close the voting at 0000 GMT Monday morning, which is Sunday evening in most US time zones.

Cheers,
General Quigley
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by crazystef »

my vote is leave them as they are
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Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by General Quigley »

The votes are in and we will be finishing the Competition under manual settings by a 2 to 1 majority, with 1 person wanting a combination. I am sorry to lose nice stash's participation, but you know, this competition is not for the easily frightened. If one is unable to figure out a strategy for dealing with the manual drop setting, perhaps it is best not to participate. I think I have one figured out though. I notice a number of very high rated players are starting to play in more of these games lately, particularly on the Baltic map. They seem to have figured something out.

Since my last post, just six games have concluded for a total of 124. To be rated in the Competition, a fifteen percent participation rate is required, which means you need to have a minimum of 18 games concluded in order to achieve a skill index rating and to know your place in the Competition.

SKILL INDEX Points won divided by games played.
Wolfboy137 - 1.26 (44/35)
AlexEverard - 1.06 (56/53)
General Quigley - 0.91 (82/90)
DominatED - 0.71 (17/24)
crazystef - 0.46 (46/101)

Congratulations to Wolfboy137 who now moves into clear first place. He continues to improve his skill index rating too. Alex is gaining ground on Wolfboy. Is there an upset in the making? My results have been languishing of late. There are a number of Competition games still open. So I think I will hold off opening any new ones for now.

IBERIA MAP
121 is Concluded [game]12660909[/game]: eljohnson15 - gold, AlexEverard - silver, crazystef - bronze
141 is Open [game]12726288[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, what,me worry?, Tallishpaul ... so far

JAPAN MAP
142 is Under Way [game]12726295[/game]: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, what,me worry?, 4red, DominatED, DuZ

FIRST NATIONS AMERICAS MAP
143 is Under Way [game]12726299[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, boow, DominatED, mejihn7779, Von Kaiser

FIRST NATIONS NORTH AMERICA MAP
124 is Under Way [game]12660937[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, rpshawn, bmcubs87, mejihn7779, kazokuhouou
144 is Open [game]12726300[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, shallowhalc ... so far

FIRST NATIONS SOUTH AMERICA MAP
131 is Open [game]12698019[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, AlexEverard ... so far

HIVE MAP
132 is Under Way [game]12698023[/game]: General Quigley, sblast1919, crazystef, Wolfboy137, what,me worry?, VIKTORY, Glühwürmchen
0, aflynmonkey8

AMERICAN CIVIL WAR MAP
125 is Under Way [game]12660944[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, titocakes, Wolfboy137, jessewoodall, repjay, General Greivous, bobheadsuave
145 is Under Way [game]12726305[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, magiclashes, what,me worry?, titocakes, Riverside111

PELOPONNESIAN WAR MAP
113 is Under Way [game]12623108[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, tonychristou, Wiskaquito, CJMONSTERNATOR, bpt777, webb4545, pmhedt
133 is Open [game]12698032[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, Zecoe, AlexEverard, gpowell ... so far

CLASSIC CITIES: LONDON MAP
126 is Concluded [game]12660947[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, crazystef - silver, geoffc - bronze
146 is Under Way [game]12726315[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, what,me worry?, AlexEverard, kennuy07, trboye, Machee

NORTH AMERICA MAP
134 is Under Way [game]12698035[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, Elsuper bano, what,me worry?, amirzinaty, Riverside111, QUAYS

8 THOUGHTS MAP
135 is Open [game]12698037[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far

DOODLE EARTH MAP
147 is Open [game]12726317[/game]: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, BluU, what,me worry? ... so far

CIRCUS MAXIMUS MAP
116 is Concluded [game]12623124[/game]: Wolfboy137 - gold, martins.05 - silver, Graaf_MC - bronze
136 is Open [game]12698040[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far

HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS MAP
117 is Under Way [game]12623132[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, Dillybarr, Wiskaquito, wombat4, Sparticus142, Alex5869
137 is Open [game]12698041[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far

WWII EUROPE MAP
138 is Open [game]12698043[/game]: General Quigley, sblast1919, crazystef, what,me worry?, AlexEverard, LeFrench ... so far

EUROPE 1914 MAP
128 is Concluded [game]12660954[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, Wolfboy137 - bronze, Hallonbanan92 - bronze, b2a3kafra - bronze
148 is Under Way [game]12726320[/game]: General Quigley, EightFingerEddie, Wolfboy137, crazystef, u0rns, sonofabs, Mithrandylan, eljohnson15

BALTIC CRUSADES MAP
129 is Concluded [game]12660957[/game]: Walslaf - gold, Stevinator - silver, dragosh - bronze
149 is Under Way [game]12726327[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, ranc1dPsych0, what,me worry?, AlexEverard, mixalis, trboye

BERLIN 1961 MAP
139 is Open [game]12698048[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, what,me worry? ... so far

TRENCH WARFARE MAP
100 is Concluded [game]12553017[/game]: hairypied - gold, General Quigley - silver, Funkaholic - bronze
140 is Open [game]12698053[/game]: General Quigley, sblast1919, crazystef, what,me worry? ... so far

AUSTROHUNGARIAN EMPIRE MAP
130 is Open [game]12660963[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, DominatED ... so far
150 is Under Way [game]12726329[/game]: General Quigley, EightFingerEddie, Wolfboy137, crazystef, ranc1dPsych0, BogdanNS, what,me worry?, Machee

Earners of nine or more points regardless of participation level:
General Quigley - 82
AlexEverard - 56
crazystef - 46
Wolfboy137 - 44
nicestash - 24
Funkaholic - 18
DominatED - 17
11Joan11 - 11
Flann - 11
Birdman13 - 10
CJMONSTERNATOR - 10
mrgrateful - 10
wombat4 - 10
farinelli - 9
shabawazawhodo - 9
Solkim - 9
AlexEverard
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by AlexEverard »

Scored 8 points off 3 games (Gold, Gold, Silver), so I am leaving myself room to improve!
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by General Quigley »

I have made two recent settings mistakes, both on Peloponnesian War maps for some odd reason. Game 113 was opened with Sequential instead of Freestyle play order. I don't think the difference between the two is of enough magnitude that I have to invalidate that game and open another. However, it is no doubt going to be one of the last games of the Competition to finish. Eight player sequential games take months to play! I am glad it's not a Hive game. Then, it might even have taken a year! Game 133, a Peloponnesian War map game, was opened with escalating rather than nuclear spoils. I do have to invalidate that ongoing game since this is a Nuclear Competition. I am starting another game 133 with nuclear spoils to take its place.

Since my last post, five more games have concluded for a total of 129. To be rated in the Competition, a fifteen percent participation rate is required, which means a minimum of 19 games concluded is needed in order to achieve a skill index rating and to know your place in the Competition. Only five Nuclear warriors have participated in fifteen percent of the Competition games, which makes it a five person race right now. I am opening eleven new games today and will open the last 40 games of the Competition over the next 27 days. So there are plenty of opportunities to up your participation rate and finish in the money (that being gold, silver, or bronze).

SKILL INDEX Points won divided by games played.
Wolfboy137 - 1.30 (52/40)
AlexEverard - 1.11 (61/55)
General Quigley - 0.87 (82/94)
DominatED - 0.71 (17/24)
crazystef - 0.51 (54/105)

Congratulations to Wolfboy137 who maintains his clear first with incredibly consistent high performance. He continues to incrementally improve his skill index rating too. The gulf between Alex and me continues to widen. Some players may up their participation rates in these last 50-60 games to achieve a total of 30 games played and become rated. Otherwise, I am wondering if we may be looking at a preview of the final standings for the first Nuclear Competition. I plan to offer these Competitions at least once, maybe twice per year. So, we truly are making a permanent historical record here.

IBERIA MAP
141 is Under Way [game]12726288[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, what,me worry?, Tallishpaul, DominatED, mike stevens69, Riverside111

JAPAN MAP
142 is Under Way [game]12726295[/game]: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, what,me worry?, 4red, DominatED, DuZ

FIRST NATIONS AMERICAS MAP
143 is Under Way [game]12726299[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, boow, DominatED, mejihn7779, Von Kaiser

FIRST NATIONS NORTH AMERICA MAP
124 is Concluded [game]12660937[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, rpshawn - silver, bmcubs87 - bronze
144 is Under Way [game]12726300[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, shallowhalc, DominatED, sfl, mejihn7779, QUAYS

FIRST NATIONS SOUTH AMERICA MAP
131 is Open [game]12698019[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, AlexEverard, DominatED, mejihn7779 ... so far
151 is Open [game]12775481[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

HIVE MAP
132 is Under Way [game]12698023[/game]: General Quigley, sblast1919, crazystef, Wolfboy137, what,me worry?, VIKTORY, Glühwürmchen
0, aflynmonkey8
152 is Open [game]12775487[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

AMERICAN CIVIL WAR MAP
125 is Concluded [game]12660944[/game]: jessewoodall - gold, crazystef - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze
145 is Under Way [game]12726305[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, magiclashes, what,me worry?, titocakes, Riverside111

PELOPONNESIAN WAR MAP
113 is Under Way [game]12623108[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, tonychristou, Wiskaquito, CJMONSTERNATOR, bpt777, webb4545, pmhedt
133 is Open [game]12775496[/game]: General Quigley ... so far
153 is Open [game]12775511[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

CLASSIC CITIES: LONDON MAP
146 is Under Way [game]12726315[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, what,me worry?, AlexEverard, kennuy07, trboye, Machee

NORTH AMERICA MAP
134 is Under Way [game]12698035[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, Elsuper bano, what,me worry?, amirzinaty, Riverside111, QUAYS
154 is Open [game]12775516[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

8 THOUGHTS MAP
135 is Open [game]12698037[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, AlexEverard ... so far
155 is Open [game]12775522[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

DOODLE EARTH MAP
147 is Open [game]12726317[/game]: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, BluU, what,me worry? ... so far

CIRCUS MAXIMUS MAP
136 is Open [game]12698040[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
156 is Open [game]12775527[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS MAP
117 is Concluded [game]12623132[/game]: crazystef - gold, Wolfboy137 - silver, wombat4 - bronze
137 is Open [game]12698041[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
157 is Open [game]12775533[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

WWII EUROPE MAP
138 is Under Way [game]12698043[/game]: General Quigley, sblast1919, crazystef, what,me worry?, AlexEverard, LeFrench, QUAYS
3, BisdeCapri
158 is Open [game]12775535[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

EUROPE 1914 MAP
148 is Concluded [game]12726320[/game]: crazystef - gold, Wolfboy137 - silver, EightFingerEddie - bronze

BALTIC CRUSADES MAP
149 is Under Way [game]12726327[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, ranc1dPsych0, what,me worry?, AlexEverard, mixalis, trboye

BERLIN 1961 MAP
139 is Open [game]12698048[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, what,me worry?, AlexEverard ... so far
159 is Open [game]12775542[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

TRENCH WARFARE MAP
140 is Open [game]12698053[/game]: General Quigley, sblast1919, crazystef, what,me worry? ... so far
160 is Open [game]12775547[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

AUSTROHUNGARIAN EMPIRE MAP
130 is Open [game]12660963[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, DominatED ... so far
150 is Under Way [game]12726329[/game]: General Quigley, EightFingerEddie, Wolfboy137, crazystef, ranc1dPsych0, BogdanNS, what,me worry?, Machee

Earners of nine or more points regardless of participation level:
General Quigley - 82
AlexEverard - 61
crazystef - 54
Wolfboy137 - 52
nicestash - 24
Funkaholic - 18
DominatED - 17
mrgrateful - 12
wombat4 - 11
11Joan11 - 11
Flann - 11
Birdman13 - 10
CJMONSTERNATOR - 10
farinelli - 9
shabawazawhodo - 9
Solkim - 9
crazystef
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by crazystef »

Yo Alex (Mr. Braggy pants) I also scored 8 points since last update! LOL
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by Wolfboy137 »

Oof, this last round of games has not gone so well for me, Alex may be able to catch up if he plays well.
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by General Quigley »

Since my last post, thirteen games have concluded for a total of 142. A fifteen percent participation rate is needed in order to achieve a skill index rating and to know your place in the Competition, which means a minimum of 21 games. Only five Nuclear warriors have participated in fifteen percent of the Competition games, which makes it a five person race right now. Wolfboy137 has run into some trouble in many of his games recently, but Alex continues to play really well. This has made it a two-way race near the finish. I may be looming on the outside looking for a break.

SKILL INDEX Points won divided by games played.
Wolfboy137 - 1.10 (57/52)
AlexEverard - 1.08 (67/62)
General Quigley - 0.91 (97/107)
DominatED - 0.74 (23/31)
crazystef - 0.48 (56/117)

I am opening twenty new games today and will open the last 20 games of the Competition before the first day of Summer. So there are plenty of opportunities (more than 40 since a few are still open from last time) to up your participation rate and place in the first Nuclear Competition.

IBERIA MAP
141 is Concluded [game]12726288[/game]: Riverside111 - gold, mike stevens69 - silver, General Quigley - bronze
161 is Open [game]12849310[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

JAPAN MAP
142 is Concluded [game]12726295[/game]: DuZ - gold, General Quigley - silver, crazystef - bronze
162 is Open [game]12849313[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

FIRST NATIONS AMERICAS MAP
143 is Concluded [game]12726299[/game]: DominatED - gold, boow - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze
163 is Open [game]12849316[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

FIRST NATIONS NORTH AMERICA MAP
144 is Concluded [game]12726300[/game]: QUAYS - gold, sfl - silver, crazystef - bronze
164 is Open [game]12849320[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

FIRST NATIONS SOUTH AMERICA MAP
131 is Concluded [game]12698019[/game]: mejihn7779 - gold, General Quigley - silver, privite frakel - bronze
151 is Under Way [game]12775481[/game]: General Quigley, Old Pueblo Gambl, crazystef, beire1990, DominatED, hrake, rotoryturbo, QUAYS
165 is Open [game]12849327[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

HIVE MAP
132 is Concluded [game]12698023[/game]: General Quigley -gold, VIKTORY - silver, sblast1919 - bronze
152 is Under Way [game]12775487[/game]: General Quigley, cavscorpion, ML46, AlexEverard, kahunah, danc050, Machee, torres44cm
166 is Open [game]12849330[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

AMERICAN CIVIL WAR MAP
145 is Under Way [game]12726305[/game]: General Quigley - gold, what,me worry? - silver, titocakes - bronze
167 is Open [game]12849334[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

PELOPONNESIAN WAR MAP
113 is Under Way [game]12623108[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, tonychristou, Wiskaquito, CJMONSTERNATOR, bpt777, webb4545, pmhedt
133 is Open [game]12775496[/game]: General Quigley, AlexEverard, DominatED, Wolfboy137, gpowell, crazystef ... so far
153 is Under Way [game]12775511[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, AlexEverard, mjackowitz, Wolfboy137, Zecoe, Cornal Clink, ernistas
168 is Open [game]12849416[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

CLASSIC CITIES: LONDON MAP
146 is Concluded [game]12726315[/game]: Machee - gold, what,me worry? - silver, General Quigley - bronze
169 is Open [game]12849419[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

NORTH AMERICA MAP
134 is Concluded [game]12698035[/game]: Wolfboy137 - gold, General Quigley - silver, amirzinaty - bronze
154 is Under Way [game]12775516[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Cornal Clink, Elsuper bano, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, mike stevens69, The Owl
170 is Open [game]12849420[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

8 THOUGHTS MAP
135 is Open [game]12698037[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, AlexEverard, General Greivous ... so far
155 is Open [game]12775522[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137 ... so far
171 is Open [game]12849421[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

DOODLE EARTH MAP
147 is Concluded [game]12726317[/game]: DominatED - gold, General Quigley - silver, AlexEverard - bronze
172 is Open [game]12849426[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

CIRCUS MAXIMUS MAP
136 is Open [game]12698040[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
156 is Open [game]12775527[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
173 is Open [game]12849349[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS MAP
137 is Open [game]12698041[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
157 is Open [game]12775533[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
174 is Open [game]12849429[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

WWII EUROPE MAP
138 is Concluded [game]12698043[/game]: LeFrench - gold, AlexEverard - silver, sblast1919 - bronze
158 is Under Way [game]12775535[/game]: General Quigley, toshx54, AlexEverard, czech59, Wolfboy137, tanios, wombat4, QUAYS
175 is Open [game]12849353[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

EUROPE 1914 MAP
176 is Open [game]12849356[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

BALTIC CRUSADES MAP
149 is Concluded [game]12726327[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, mixalis - silver, ranc1dPsych0 - bronze
177 is Open [game]12849360[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

BERLIN 1961 MAP
139 is Under Way [game]12698048[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, what,me worry?, AlexEverard, wombat4, knycknac, Darksteel
159 is Under Way [game]12775542[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, AlexEverard, geobarto, Wolfboy137, matbat, LeChuck, tigger123456789
178 is Open [game]12849363[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

TRENCH WARFARE MAP
140 is Open [game]12698053[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, what,me worry?, wombat, SkyMonkey6 ... so far
160 is Open [game]12775547[/game]: General Quigley, chadrea, crazystef ... so far
179 is Open [game]12849367[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

AUSTROHUNGARIAN EMPIRE MAP
130 is Concluded [game]12660963[/game]: wombat4 - gold, Bamanole74 - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze
150 is Concluded [game]12726329[/game]: BogdanNS - gold, General Quigley - silver, Machee - bronze
180 is Open [game]12849371[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

Earners of ten or more points regardless of participation level:
General Quigley - 97
AlexEverard - 67
Wolfboy137 - 57
crazystef - 56
nicestash - 24
DominatED - 23
Funkaholic - 18
wombat4 - 14
mrgrateful - 12
11Joan11 - 11
Flann - 11
Birdman13 - 10
CJMONSTERNATOR - 10
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by AlexEverard »

Nyaaaargh! So close! But I have an overhang of defeats in games not yet finished which I fear will drag me backwards (partly because I tend to join more games than I can give my full concentration to).
Now, if I just join a heap more games, maybe I'll do well enough to counteract the ones I lost 'cause I was playing too many ...
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by General Quigley »

Or, you can join a heap more, concentrate like crazy, and beat Wolfie like a red-headed stepchild!
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by crazystef »

Hey now....is it that obvious?...or are you just happy to see my focus has shifted from you! lol
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Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Post by General Quigley »

SKILL INDEX Points won divided by games played.
Wolfboy137 - 1.09 (73/67)
AlexEverard - 1.04 (76/73)
General Quigley - 0.93 (115/123)
DominatED - 0.81 (29/36)
crazystef - 0.47 (61/131)

We are at last approaching the end of the First Nuclear Competition. Wolfboy has been playing really well, three golds on the first three maps, to maintain a solid hold on first. Alex has slipped just a fraction. Averages above 1.0 are so hard to maintain. I have improved my standing a bit. I am pretty tough on the Berlin 1961 and the Peloponnesian War maps where victories brought me in some points.

Since my last post, sixteen games have concluded for a total of 158. A fifteen percent participation rate is needed in order to achieve a skill index rating and to know your place in the Competition, which means a minimum of 23 Competition games concluded. Only five Nuclear warriors so far have had the stamina and dedication to participate in fifteen percent of the Competition games.

Game 172 was a strange one. It was a Doodle Earth map and there were two players left, Alex and Wolfboy. Poor Wolfie got so nervous at the prospect of facing Alex alone that he nuked himself. 8-[ By doing this, Wolfboy actually eliminated himself from the game allowing Alex to win while literally asleep. That's what I call intimidation!

I am opening the last 20 games of the Competition today and there are 14 still open. If someone new signs up for 30 of the 34 games, they can still just meet the 15% minimum needed to rate in this Competition. So tell your friends about it!

TEAM GAMES ANNOUNCEMENT

For some of the people who have participated most, I am creating some team games and plan to invite you to be on a team together. My theory is that we have learned a lot about how to play Nuclear spoils on these maps over the last 5 months. so I think we would make a formidable team. But mainly, I think it would be really fun to play with you for a change instead of against you! There are five key participants in this First Nuclear Competition, and I'd like to bring in one medium participant per team game invite, so please don't expect to be invited to all the team games, but for the key five (you're in the index above) I promise you'll be invited to at least 50% of all team games unless you express a wish not to be.

IBERIA MAP
161 is Concluded [game]12849310[/game]: Wolfboy137 -gold, General Quigley - silver, crazystef - bronze
181 is Open [game]12935793[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

JAPAN MAP
162 is Concluded [game]12849313[/game]: Wolfboy137 -gold, crazystef - silver, brentros - bronze
182 is Open [game]12935799[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

FIRST NATIONS AMERICAS MAP
163 is Concluded [game]12849116[/game]: Wolfboy137 - gold, biggaz34 - silver, DominatED - bronze
183 is Open [game]12935806[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

FIRST NATIONS NORTH AMERICA MAP
164 is Under Way [game]12849320[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, DominatED, rcoss, mrgrateful, rockfist
184 is Open [game]12935817[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

FIRST NATIONS SOUTH AMERICA MAP
151 is Concluded [game]12775481[/game]: beire1990 - gold, DominatED - silver, General Quigley - bronze
165 is Open [game]12849327[/game]: General Quigley,Wolfboy137, crazystef, biggaz34, mikey4 ... so far
185 is Open [game]12935828[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

HIVE MAP
152 is Under Way [game]12775487[/game]: General Quigley, cavscorpion, ML46, AlexEverard, kahunah, danc050, Machee, torres44cm
166 is Open [game]12849330[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, AlexEverard, cavscorpion, Obiwayne99, wreckermom, 1234qwer ... so far
186 is Open [game]12935853[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

AMERICAN CIVIL WAR MAP
145 is Concluded [game]12726305[/game]: General Quigley - gold, what,me worry? - silver, titocakes - bronze
167 is Concluded [game]12849334[/game]: repjay - gold, General Quigley - silver, rellis - bronze
187 is Open [game]12935841[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

PELOPONNESIAN WAR MAP
113 is Concluded [game]12623108[/game]: webb4545 - gold, pmhedt - silver, bpt777 - bronze
133 is Under Way [game]12775496[/game]: General Quigley, AlexEverard, DominatED, Wolfboy137, gpowell, crazystef, Cornal Clink, MrMister
153 is Concluded [game]12775511[/game]: General Quigley - gold, AlexEverard - bronze, Wolfboy137 - bronze, ernistas - bronze
168 is Under Way [game]12849416[/game]: General Quigley, galatsipao, Wolfboy137, Mithrandylan, crazystef, Pampalik, mkay, jordan-n
188 is Open [game]12935855[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

CLASSIC CITIES: LONDON MAP
169 is Under Way [game]12849419[/game]: General Quigley, aboynamedboobs, crazystef, AlexEverard, Elsuper bano, marvis, FiesesKies, Cornal Clink
189 is Open [game]12935857[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

NORTH AMERICA MAP
154 is Concluded [game]12775516[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, General Quigley - silver, crazystef - bronze
170 is Under Way [game]12849420[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, rcoss, Cornal Clink, Kisti, clowntriste
190 is Open [game]12935861[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

8 THOUGHTS MAP
135 is Concluded [game]12698037[/game]: tnecniv3 - gold, General Bax - silver, AlexEverard - bronze
155 is Open [game]12775522[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137 ... so far
171 is Open [game]12849421[/game]: General Quigley, pepol, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard ... so far
191 is Open [game]12935868[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

DOODLE EARTH MAP
172 is Concluded [game]12849426[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, Wolfboy137 - silver, Fakyras - bronze
192 is Open [game]12935873[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

CIRCUS MAXIMUS MAP
136 is Under Way [game]12698040[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, tnecniv3, Zecoe, Filthy Phil, rvgd, AshB
156 is Open [game]12775527[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, General Greivous ... so far
173 is Open [game]12849349[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, mikey4 ... so far
193 is Open [game]12935882[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS MAP
137 is Open [game]12698041[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, Bilbo1_OC ... so far
157 is Open [game]12775533[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
174 is Open [game]12849429[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef ... so far
194 is Open [game]12935884[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

WWII EUROPE MAP
158 is Concluded [game]12775535[/game]: tanios - gold, czech59 - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze
175 is Concluded [game]12849353[/game]: bpbp - gold, domif150 - silver, Tallishpaul - bronze
195 is Open [game]12935887[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

EUROPE 1914 MAP
176 is Under Way [game]12849356[/game]: General Quigley, h-bomb, El_Jefe, Franci_Magnus, Wolfboy137, Mithrandylan, EmperorChung, crazystef
196 is Open [game]12935893[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

BALTIC CRUSADES MAP
177 is Concluded [game]12849360[/game]: trboye - gold, DominatED - silver, AlexEverard - bronze
197 is Open [game]12935899[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

BERLIN 1961 MAP
139 is Concluded [game]12698048[/game]: Wolfboy137 - gold, General Quigley - silver, crazystef - bronze
159 is Concluded [game]12775542[/game]: General Quigley - gold, geobarto - silver, matbat - bronze
178 is Open [game]12849363[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard ... so far
198 is Open [game]12935902[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

TRENCH WARFARE MAP
140 is Open [game]12698053[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, what,me worry?, wombat, tommygun64 ... so far
160 is Open [game]12775547[/game]: General Quigley, chadrea, crazystef, Wolfboy137, tommygun64 ... so far
179 is Open [game]12849367[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard ... so far
199 is Open [game]12935906[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

AUSTROHUNGARIAN EMPIRE MAP
180 is Open [game]12849371[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, 11Joan11, crazystef, mrgrateful, shmorg ... so far
200 is Open [game]12935912[/game]: General Quigley ... so far

Earners of ten or more points regardless of participation level:
General Quigley - 115
AlexEverard - 76
Wolfboy137 - 73
crazystef - 61
DominatED - 28
nicestash - 24
Funkaholic - 18
wombat4 - 14
mrgrateful - 12
11Joan11 - 11
Flann - 11
Birdman13 - 10
CJMONSTERNATOR - 10
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

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Keep up the good work GQ! I am enjoying this tourney very much. Thanks for starting the team games.
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

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Congrats gentlemen, the winner of this tourney will likely be one of the top 5 players who have competed in this competition!

General-if you truly need proof that manual drop requires less skill than automatic drop look no further than the rankings-it's no coincidence that the vast majority of the top players' win percentage has gone down.
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Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

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SKILL INDEX Points won divided by games played.
AlexEverard - 1.09 (93/85)
Wolfboy137 - 1.02 (86/84)
General Quigley - 0.96 (137/143)
DominatED - 0.83 (35/42)
crazystef - 0.45 (67/149)

As you can see, we have a new first place. Congratulations to Alex on some outstanding recent results! He has really figured out this manual deployment strategy to come on strong here at the end.

We are approaching the end of the First Nuclear Competition. All of the Competition games have been previously listed. Only twelve games remain with spots open (listed below).

The team games I started have really been fun. It has been a treat to play with people I have become so accustomed to playing against. As a team, we have won, I estimate, about 70% of our team games.

IBERIA MAP
181 is Concluded [game]12935793[/game]: General Quigley - gold, Cornal Clink - silver, AlexEverard - bronze

JAPAN MAP
182 is Under Way [game]12935799[/game]: General Quigley, mike333, Zzuchini Khan, AlexEverard, crazystef, DominatED, FieryOvaltine, surinam

FIRST NATIONS AMERICAS MAP
183 is Under Way [game]12935806[/game]: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED, FieryOvaltine, bigsacks, mullefar

FIRST NATIONS NORTH AMERICA MAP
164 is Concluded [game]12849320[/game]: DominatED - gold, rockfist - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze
184 is Under Way [game]12935817[/game]: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED, FieryOvaltine, Flann, kenster1

FIRST NATIONS SOUTH AMERICA MAP
165 is Concluded [game]12849327[/game]: amirzinaty - gold, Wolfboy137 - silver, General Quigley - bronze
185 is Under Way [game]12935828[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, amirzinaty, DominatED, FieryOvaltine, behemoth46, ibzo44

HIVE MAP
152 is Concluded [game]12775487[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, cavscorpion - silver, torres44cm - bronze
166 is Concluded [game]12849330[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, 1234qwer - silver, cavscorpion - bronze
186 is Open [game]12935853[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, AlexEverard, rockfist, msommers, kahunah ... so far

AMERICAN CIVIL WAR MAP
187 is Concluded [game]12935841[/game]: repjay - gold, General Bax - silver, rotoryturbo - bronze

PELOPONNESIAN WAR MAP
133 is Concluded [game]12775496[/game]: General Quigley - gold, DominatED - silver, MrMister - bronze
168 is Concluded [game]12849416[/game]: Mithrandylan - gold, jordan-n - silver, crazystef - bronze
188 is Under Way [game]12935855[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, 11Joan11, istanbul39, Zecoe, AladdinSane, pzandt

CLASSIC CITIES: LONDON MAP
169 is Concluded [game]12849419[/game]: marvis - gold, AlexEverard - silver, Cornal Clink - bronze
189 is Concluded [game]12935857[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, General Quigley - silver, General Flashman - bronze

NORTH AMERICA MAP
170 is Concluded [game]12849420[/game]: General Quigley - gold, AlexEverard - silver, crazystef - bronze
190 is Concluded [game]12935861[/game]: General Quigley - gold, AlexEverard - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze

8 THOUGHTS MAP
155 is Under Way [game]12775522[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, d1v1jak, EsLeFaith, Ghost0204, genevieve roi
171 is Open [game]12849421[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, General Greivous ... so far
191 is Open [game]12935868[/game]: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, RISEME, Ghost0204 ... so far

DOODLE EARTH MAP
192 is Concluded [game]12935873[/game]: DaPewma - gold, Wolfboy137 - silver, AlexEverard - bronze

CIRCUS MAXIMUS MAP
136 is Concluded [game]12698040[/game]: Wolfboy137 - gold, crazystef - silver, tnecniv3 - bronze
156 is Under Way [game]12775527[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, General Greivous, DominatED, Schredder22, waltero, freethinker
173 is Open [game]12849349[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef ... so far
193 is Open [game]12935882[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED ... so far

HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS MAP
137 is Under Way [game]12698041[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, IKE KOD, Schredder22, thehunstman, Sir_Scavenger, Alsacien71
157 is Open [game]12775533[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
174 is Open [game]12849429[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef ... so far
194 is Open [game]12935884[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED 4.7 ... so far

WWII EUROPE MAP
195 is Open [game]12935887[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, DominatED, Redlad, biosistemas1 ... so far

EUROPE 1914 MAP
176 is Concluded [game]12849356[/game]: General Quigley - gold, Wolfboy137 - bronze, Mithrandylan - bronze, crazystef - bronze
196 is Concluded [game]12935893[/game]: AbioticViper - gold, Bamanole74 - silver, General Quigley - bronze

BALTIC CRUSADES MAP
197 is Under Way [game]12935899[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED, mrgrateful, puppydog85, alferez-cook, Franz Mauer

BERLIN 1961 MAP
178 is Open [game]12849363[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, Clacie ... so far
198 is Concluded [game]12935902[/game]: Clacie - gold, General Quigley - silver, DominatED - bronze

TRENCH WARFARE MAP
140 is Under Way [game]12698053[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, what,me worry?, wombat, tommygun64, SkyMonkey6, waltero, jbover
160 is Concluded [game]12775547[/game]: Wolfboy137 - gold, tommygun64 - silver, RISEME - bronze
179 is Open [game]12849367[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, ... so far
199 is Open [game]12935906[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, Crazystef ... so far

AUSTROHUNGARIAN EMPIRE MAP
180 is Concluded [game]12849371[/game]: FieryOvaltine - gold, crazystef - bronze, Clacie - bronze, DominatED - bronze
200 is Concluded [game]12935912[/game]: Clacie - gold, General Quigley - bronze, Bamanole74 - bronze, Redlad - bronze

Earners of ten or more points regardless of participation level:
General Quigley - 137
AlexEverard - 93
Wolfboy137 - 86
crazystef - 67
DominatED - 35
nicestash - 24
Funkaholic - 18
wombat4 - 14
mrgrateful - 12
11Joan11 - 11
Flann - 11
Birdman13 - 10
CJMONSTERNATOR - 10
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

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So, now I have a wolf on my tail ...
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

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SKILL INDEX Points won divided by games played.
AlexEverard - 1.13 (102/90)
Wolfboy137 - 1.02 (95/93)
General Quigley - 0.96 (148/154)
DominatED - 0.71 (35/49)
crazystef - 0.43 (69/160)

Congratulations to Alex on maintaining his lock on first place. We are approaching the end of the First Nuclear Competition. Eleven games are still in play. Five games have yet to start; they are on the least two popular maps (Trench Warfare and Halloween Hollows). I think the fun to be had on these maps is under rated.

We continue our winning ways in team games. I can only remember losing maybe 2 or 3 of these in about 15 games. Thank you guys for being so willing to participate.

IBERIA MAP is finished

JAPAN MAP
182 is Concluded [game]12935799[/game]: surinam - gold, FieryOvaltine - silver, mike333 - bronze

FIRST NATIONS AMERICAS MAP
183 is Concluded [game]12935806[/game]: bigsacks - gold, AlexEverard - silver, FieryOvaltine - bronze

FIRST NATIONS NORTH AMERICA MAP
184 is Concluded [game]12935817[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, FieryOvaltine - silver, kenster1 - bronze

FIRST NATIONS SOUTH AMERICA MAP
185 is Concluded [game]12935828[/game]: behemoth46 - gold, amirzinaty - silver, ibzo44 - bronze

HIVE MAP
186 is Under Way [game]12935853[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, AlexEverard, rockfist, msommers, kahunah, sabbbs, wendall2000

AMERICAN CIVIL WAR MAP is finished

PELOPONNESIAN WAR MAP
188 is Concluded [game]12935855[/game]: Wolfboy137 - gold, AladdinSane - silver, General Quigley - bronze

CLASSIC CITIES: LONDON MAP is finished

NORTH AMERICA MAP is finished

8 THOUGHTS MAP
155 is Under Way [game]12775522[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, d1v1jak, EsLeFaith, Ghost0204, genevieve roi
171 is Under Way [game]12849421[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, General Greivous, willis1990, röde orm, Filthy Phil
191 is Under Way [game]12935868[/game]: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, RISEME, Ghost0204, gordo.sands, röde orm

DOODLE EARTH MAP is finished

CIRCUS MAXIMUS MAP
156 is Concluded [game]12775527[/game]: Wolfboy137 - gold, crazystef - silver, waltero - bronze
173 is Under Way [game]12849349[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, aboynamedboobs, surreyhammer, röde orm, General Bax, Schredder22
193 is Concluded [game]12935882[/game]: General Quigley - gold, David Garland - silver, AlexEverard - bronze

HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS MAP
137 is Concluded [game]12698041[/game]: General Quigley - gold, thehunstman - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze
157 is Open [game]12775533[/game]: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
174 is Open [game]12849429[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef ... so far
194 is Open [game]12935884[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED ... so far

WWII EUROPE MAP
195 is Under Way [game]12935887[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, DominatED, Redlad, biosistemas1, AlexEverard, Zecoe, bpt777

EUROPE 1914 MAP is finished

BALTIC CRUSADES MAP
197 is Concluded [game]12935899[/game]: mrgrateful - gold, Wolfboy137 - silver, General Quigley - bronze

BERLIN 1961 MAP
178 is Concluded [game]12849363[/game]: AlexEverard - gold, epic0002 - silver, willis1990 - bronze

TRENCH WARFARE MAP
140 is Concluded [game]12698053[/game]: General Quigley - gold, SkyMonkey6 - silver, waltero - bronze
179 is Open [game]12849367[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, ... so far
199 is Open [game]12935906[/game]: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, Crazystef, MrMister ... so far

AUSTROHUNGARIAN EMPIRE MAP is finished

Earners of eleven or more points regardless of participation level:
General Quigley - 148
AlexEverard - 102
Wolfboy137 - 95
crazystef - 69
DominatED - 35
nicestash - 24
Funkaholic - 18
mrgrateful - 15
wombat4 - 14
11Joan11 - 11
Flann - 11
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

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Amazing how everyone's skill index seems to have fallen since the introduction of manual games...
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

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Alex's index rating actually went up by more than 3/10 of a point. Stef's and my index stayed pretty much constant. DominatED's took quite a hit with the manual deployment. Wolfboy played the majority of the Competition games under manual deployment rules because he joined us late. So it isn't really possible to say whether or not automatic deployment is better or worse for him.

One big difference I did note between automatic and manual deployments is that automatic deployment rules are much more popular. Games took much longer to fill with the manual deployment setting and fewer high rated players seemed interested in joining. I believe group think is the main cause. On the strategy forum posts and at the schools that teach strategy, automatic deployments are assumed. Therefore, those who are taught how to play CC, and those who read the forum posts all have reached some consensus on how best to play with automatic deployments. For those who think for themselves, and for those who like to develop winning strategies independently, the deployment setting really doesn't matter because winning strategies are devisable under either setting for us.

Having played a large number of games under both deployments, my experience is that the strategies one needs to employ for each way of playing are different, but that one type of strategy is no less deep than the other, just different, very different in fact in two important respects. If you can figure out strategies for winning with automatic deployment, then you can figure out good strategies for winning with manual deployment too. I think you deprived yourself of a good opportunity to develop those strategies by petulantly withdrawing your participation because you did not get your way. But that is your loss. It was fun playing with you in the first half of the Competition.

There has been one very significant benefit I have noted. Since this Competition came to an end and I have begun playing more games with a wider field my rating has gone up. Participating in this tough Competition as much as I did for the last seven months may have kept my rating down a bit artificially. I learned a lot about strategy under conditions of manual as well as automatic deployment. I am really seeing the benefits when I play against a more general population.
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

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Well put GQ! As you know I don't put too much weight on ranking. Through this competition I have been as high as a sergeant and as low as a cook. Manual deployment engages people to think faster in the beginning especially when you drop your big stack next to an opponents big stack. Thank you GQ for this tourney being new to CC I have learned so much.
-stef
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