Conqueror's Cup 2010. Winners Knights of the round table !!

[Chuuuuck]

K, everything sounds good to me. Safariguy, don't worry too much, make sure you get the games out that you want. As long as LoW is okay with the time frame they get them in then I am okay with it.

[Chuuuuck]

This is a friendly reminder that all whole games need to be sent by tomorrow evening!

[Bones2484]

This is a friendly reminder that all whole games need to be sent by tomorrow evening!

And by tomorrow evening, you mean this evening right? Today's the 16th...

The start day of the first round will be March 15. That means each clan has until Midnight on March 16 to send their home games.

[Chuuuuck]

This is a friendly reminder that all whole games need to be sent by tomorrow evening!

And by tomorrow evening, you mean this evening right? Today's the 16th...

The start day of the first round will be March 15. That means each clan has until Midnight on March 16 to send their home games.

Hmmm.... is that still up on the first page?

I thought I PMed you about this earlier. I posted somewhere else since then that the start date was now the 17th (I did this a couple of weeks ago). The 17th is the start date meaning everyone has until the end of the night tomorrow.

I am sorry for my error in leaving that up. I will go back and fix it and try to make everything more organized so there is no more confusion.

[Bones2484]

Hmmm.... is that still up on the first page?

I thought I PMed you about this earlier. I posted somewhere else since then that the start date was now the 17th (I did this a couple of weeks ago). The 17th is the start date meaning everyone has until the end of the night tomorrow.

I am sorry for my error in leaving that up. I will go back and fix it and try to make everything more organized so there is no more confusion.

You did, but I figured either your PM or the post was mistaken. I must have missed the post in this thread where the date was changed... probably buried in all the preemptive Empire-KORT planning for the second round.

Thanks for the clarification, again.

[Foxglove]

You did, but I figured either your PM or the post was mistaken. I must have missed the post in this thread where the date was changed... probably buried in all the preemptive Empire-KORT planning for the second round.

Ooooh, bitter.

I assure you, we are not taking our first-round G1 challenge lightly! We have only the confidence that every clan has that they will make Round 2.

[Chuuuuck]

Hello everyone,

Just wanted to clarify something before it is ever questioned by anyone (if it is at all).

Empire just added lord voldemort to their roster. Originally I was concerned whether or not he could participate with us in the Cup because he came from ID over a month ago. I went back and read the wording of how the cup-tied discussion went and concluded that it was okay that he plays because when the cup-tied rule was discussed it was said that "any player who represents a clan in a game in the cup" cannot go to play for another clan in the cup.

To my knowledge Lord V left ID sometime around February 14/15, well before the cup even started and certainly before he participated in any clan games with them.

I just wanted to point this out so it is transparent to everyone and no one thinks we at Empire are doing something that others are not allowed to. I am happy to answer any questions.

Cheers.

[Ace Rimmer]

FWIW, I agree with your reading of the rules. It doesn't matter if someone is with another clan if they never play any games with that clan - once they play a game they become tied, but until then they should be free to change teams.

Jake

[Chariot of Fire]

spot on mate. 'cup-tied' means you have played for another team in this tourney, not whether you have simply been a former member of a participating clan.

Question (sorry if it's obvious - I've had so little time to play turns let alone read threads). Re the deadline for submitting games.....does the clan send in just maps/settings to the organiser by the deadline, or does the clan send in the game numbers (i.e. they have to have set the games up and join, or partially join, by the deadline)?

[Chuuuuck]

spot on mate. 'cup-tied' means you have played for another team in this tourney, not whether you have simply been a former member of a participating clan.

Question (sorry if it's obvious - I've had so little time to play turns let alone read threads). Re the deadline for submitting games.....does the clan send in just maps/settings to the organiser by the deadline, or does the clan send in the game numbers (i.e. they have to have set the games up and join, or partially join, by the deadline)?

The games have to be set up and at least partially joined (obviously for them to be set up). But they don't have to be fully joined until the day 5 days later when they must be started.

[ahunda]

A question/suggestion: Could you maybe post an up-dated & clear time-line somewhere in the 1st post ?

Today I was asked by a clan-mate about the Cup schedule, cause he is planning his Easter holiday & wanted to know, if he will miss the 2nd set of games in the 1st round then.

I had to search through half the thread to find any info, and I am still not really sure, if I got it right ...

And speaking of Easter holidays, this might cause problems for more of us, if I understand the current schedule right:

1st set of 20 games had to be sent 17-03 & joined 22-03 ?
2nd set 2 weeks later ? Sent 31-03 & joined 05-04 ?

That would be exactly in the Easter holidays. A bit unfortunate timing, no ?

[Bones2484]

But they don't have to be fully joined until the day 5 days later when they must be started.

My only problem with this rule is Foggy games. I don't plan on joining any away Fog games until the home clan is all in there.

I know it'll be almost impossible to enforce, but home teams really need to be on top of getting their games filled before they are sent if you want the away team to join on time.

[Chuuuuck]

A question/suggestion: Could you maybe post an up-dated & clear time-line somewhere in the 1st post ?

Today I was asked by a clan-mate about the Cup schedule, cause he is planning his Easter holiday & wanted to know, if he will miss the 2nd set of games in the 1st round then.

I had to search through half the thread to find any info, and I am still not really sure, if I got it right ...

And speaking of Easter holidays, this might cause problems for more of us, if I understand the current schedule right:

1st set of 20 games had to be sent 17-03 & joined 22-03 ?
2nd set 2 weeks later ? Sent 31-03 & joined 05-04 ?

That would be exactly in the Easter holidays. A bit unfortunate timing, no ?

As of now, the 2nd round has to be sent on the 31st of March. I will leave that the same as it is before the Easter Holiday starts. All games need to be joined by April 5th which is the Monday after Easter. I will change this to April 6 giving everyone 2 days after Easter to join the games.

And yes, I apologize. I will update the first post with a more clear section on time line and stuff that will be updated regularly for now on. I will get to this tonight. Thanks.

[Chariot of Fire]

But they don't have to be fully joined until the day 5 days later when they must be started.

My only problem with this rule is Foggy games. I don't plan on joining any away Fog games until the home clan is all in there.

I know it'll be almost impossible to enforce, but home teams really need to be on top of getting their games filled before they are sent if you want the away team to join on time.

It's not the home team that wants you to join on time - it's the organiser by virtue of the rules. If you want to hang back and not join a foggy so you can be first to see the drop then that's a risk you have to take. It's simply a question of timing.

[Bones2484]

But they don't have to be fully joined until the day 5 days later when they must be started.

My only problem with this rule is Foggy games. I don't plan on joining any away Fog games until the home clan is all in there.

I know it'll be almost impossible to enforce, but home teams really need to be on top of getting their games filled before they are sent if you want the away team to join on time.

It's not the home team that wants you to join on time - it's the organiser by virtue of the rules. If you want to hang back and not join a foggy so you can be first to see the drop then that's a risk you have to take. It's simply a question of timing.

I realize it. But it's always been assumed in every challenge/league/etc that I've been a part of that the home team joins games first (usually before the games are even sent). So why should the visitors be punished even further by a deadline if the home team is slacking?

edit: I'm not saying there is a problem now. KORT had all their games filled and are on top of things. I was more questioning the timing in the future.

[Lubawski]

But they don't have to be fully joined until the day 5 days later when they must be started.

My only problem with this rule is Foggy games. I don't plan on joining any away Fog games until the home clan is all in there.

I know it'll be almost impossible to enforce, but home teams really need to be on top of getting their games filled before they are sent if you want the away team to join on time.

It's not the home team that wants you to join on time - it's the organiser by virtue of the rules. If you want to hang back and not join a foggy so you can be first to see the drop then that's a risk you have to take. It's simply a question of timing.

I realize it. But it's always been assumed in every challenge/league/etc that I've been a part of that the home team joins games first (usually before the games are even sent). So why should the visitors be punished even further by a deadline if the home team is slacking?

edit: I'm not saying there is a problem now. KORT had all their games filled and are on top of things. I was more questioning the timing in the future.

I think it was THOTA and the Monkiis who had the gentlemen's agreement not to take the first turn in a foggy game until 12 hours after the final player had joined in order to make it a little more fair (and I suspect solve the same issue). I like that idea. I'm sure clans can work that out for themselves. I can certainly see it becoming a standard part of future challenges.

[Chuuuuck]

I have updated a schedule dropdown in the first post that will for now on be updated regularly to make it more clear for everyone.

If anyone can think of anything else that would make things more clear and easier for everyone, please let me know.

Oh ya... I need to add the cup tied rule in there better so people don't have to go digging for it... I will do that now also.

[Ace Rimmer]

Can you give us a schedule for BFM/TOFU? Since they had the play-in we haven't set up our games yet.

Jake

[Chuuuuck]

Last time I talked to Dako I understood it as TOFU is pretty much ready to go. Btw, TOFU needs to go ahead and create a clan war thread. I will talk to BotFM and see how long they need to get started. At the most they will be given 2 weeks but I am hoping we can make some time up here and you all start a.s.a.p.

[Dako]

Sure, we will create games in the next few days.

[Blitzaholic]

Chuuuuck would you consider like a month break on the CUP for all of us in the summer sometime, maybe the month of July? The reason I am suggesting this is because there is many that vacation it and go out in the summer based on my years of experience on the site.

[Chuuuuck]

Chuuuuck would you consider like a month break on the CUP for all of us in the summer sometime, maybe the month of July? The reason I am suggesting this is because there is many that vacation it and go out in the summer based on my years of experience on the site.

Not saying yes for sure. But Yes, I will consider it. We can get through the first 2 rounds before then and then we will be down to the final 4. We can discuss it with the final 4 clans that are left.

[fumandomuerte]

And don't forget the fact that a real cup is going to be played during the summer, The World Cup!

[Blitzaholic]

Chuuuuck would you consider like a month break on the CUP for all of us in the summer sometime, maybe the month of July? The reason I am suggesting this is because there is many that vacation it and go out in the summer based on my years of experience on the site.

Not saying yes for sure. But Yes, I will consider it. We can get through the first 2 rounds before then and then we will be down to the final 4. We can discuss it with the final 4 clans that are left.

Ok, I know I speak for several others too, but, we would appreciate it, thanks for the consideration my friend.

[freakns]

Chuuuuck would you consider like a month break on the CUP for all of us in the summer sometime, maybe the month of July? The reason I am suggesting this is because there is many that vacation it and go out in the summer based on my years of experience on the site.

Not saying yes for sure. But Yes, I will consider it. We can get through the first 2 rounds before then and then we will be down to the final 4. We can discuss it with the final 4 clans that are left.

Ok, I know I speak for several others too, but, we would appreciate it, thanks for the consideration my friend.

dont you worry that much blitz, you aint getting into top 4

also, supporting what fumandomuerte said, if we are going to take one month break, it should be during world cup! with all the work many of us having, and all the footy, its going to be hard as hell concentrating on games. i have already planed my vacation to be during WC, so im not going to be sober enough to worry about CC