[Official]Adventure time mafia:MAFIA WIN!

[the white rose]

soldier is much more active in other mafia games than this one

[ptlowe]

This is an activity post will be 100% catch up tonight.

Pt

[Soldier4Christ]

It's hard to walk into a game and be caught up with everything. Vanilla Townie here

[*Pixar*]

too many vanilla townies here someone is lying in the group of them

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

too many vanilla townies here someone is lying in the group of them

There are 50% of them. I am curious about, doublevoter, cop, tracker town strength against mafia roleblocker with max two roles unclaimed whether town or mafia.

[TimWoodbury]

Tim you have forgotten Hotshot

that is y bad didnt see him when i looke at the 1st post showing the alive players.

[Ragian]

@Tim, what makes you "unsure" about my alignment?

i think because youve not really had much discussion either way based on you, as you see the ones that ive got reads on have had discussion focused alsmot soley on them the way they reacted is how i got my reads(is it the best way nah prolly not but how ive worked it thus far)(oldier aint had discussion on him bt i simpy didnt like how he entered the game

Am I translating your answer correctly if I'm stating that you are unsure about me because no one has debated me? You do realise that no one has debated me because I'm one of the only players that actually has town cred in this game, right?

Soilder you are at L-2. Time to claim.

Why is he at L-2 if you aren't? Wouldn't it say (3) next to him if WTF had used his double vote?

too many vanilla townies here someone is lying in the group of them

You're just begging for people to vote you. Up your game, son! I know you have developed your game! Time to show it! What do you think about Wing's hammer yesterday and his justification?

[TimWoodbury]

@Tim, what makes you "unsure" about my alignment?

i think because youve not really had much discussion either way based on you, as you see the ones that ive got reads on have had discussion focused alsmot soley on them the way they reacted is how i got my reads(is it the best way nah prolly not but how ive worked it thus far)(oldier aint had discussion on him bt i simpy didnt like how he entered the game

Am I translating your answer correctly if I'm stating that you are unsure about me because no one has debated me? You do realise that no one has debated me because I'm one of the only players that actually has town cred in this game, right?

Soilder you are at L-2. Time to claim.

Why is he at L-2 if you aren't? Wouldn't it say (3) next to him if WTF had used his double vote?

too many vanilla townies here someone is lying in the group of them

You're just begging for people to vote you. Up your game, son! I know you have developed your game! Time to show it! What do you think about Wing's hammer yesterday and his justification?

no the double vote dont show in the vote count the vote count only shows HOW MANY people voted them not how many votes are there

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Why is he at L-2 if you aren't? Wouldn't it say (3) next to him if WTF had used his double vote?

Change your tone. You would know this if you had been paying attention.

White Roses vote is double strength, there is no hidden extra vote.

[Whatsausage]

@wing, you asked if I truly believed a partnership between you and tim is possible. In a word: yes. Do I think that is the actual case? Probably not, because I do think you are more likely town. Even so, I am not 100% sold, and all evidence of something, even if potentially circumstantial, should be noted. As the evidence builds, it becomes more likely that you are scum together. The fact is yesterday you had a choice between tim being lynched and streaker. You chose streaker and he flipped town. Today tim changed his vote off of you right after someone else voted you. These things on their own do not make you scummates, but they definitely don't point away from it either.
Why I think wing is more likely town: He came in on D2, and it would have been very easy to scummarine. There has been plenty of inactivity this game, that he could've skated by for quite a while without being called out. Instead he was trying to get the town ahead of the curve, even if he made a choice I don't agree with at the end of the day. I believe his play has been consistent with what at least he said a VT should do. (granted he said that, so it could be a misdirection)

The white rose automatically doublevotes when he votes, and it doesn't show in the vote count. So yes soldier was at L-2 while wing was still at l-3.

Tim you are now reading wing as town? Why? You started the day off voting him because you thought "mitch was looking in the right direction" and then you shortly after made a vague post about yesterday being "town-town". When asked you say that you meant that made wing town. I don't think I missed any of your posts in there, but I am definitely missing the logical steps in the middle there.

Fp'd 2x
I think we have this plenty covered now no excuses for anyone not to understand this now

@Tim, what makes you "unsure" about my alignment?

i think because youve not really had much discussion either way based on you, as you see the ones that ive got reads on have had discussion focused alsmot soley on them the way they reacted is how i got my reads(is it the best way nah prolly not but how ive worked it thus far)(oldier aint had discussion on him bt i simpy didnt like how he entered the game

Am I translating your answer correctly if I'm stating that you are unsure about me because no one has debated me? You do realise that no one has debated me because I'm one of the only players that actually has town cred in this game, right?

Declaring yourself to have town cred? Really? Especially when your "town cred" is that streaker read you town and you pursued dakky D1. You are not confirmed town, so you shouldn't act like someone is a fool for questioning you, its a bad look.

[TimWoodbury]

i gave myself town cred because i know i am town ur right i spose i shouldnt have listed myself there but i posted my reads including my read on myself so course since i know im town im gonna ut myself in with y town reads

[Whatsausage]

Tim, that part was directed at Ragian. I would argue that its unneeded for you to list yourself in your town reads, I was specifically addressing where ragian mentioned that he had "town cred"
Why is that the part you chose to respond to? Can you explain your flip on wing?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Now as i have said, i think PT and Tim are scum. I dont get the feeling that many agree about PT. Is this correct?

Hotshot was be close to modkill!

[HotShot53]

I apologize for replacing then pretty much disappearing... I hadn't been following this game before replacing in, so I had a lot of pages of catching up to do... and I'm afraid I'm a bit of a procrastinator when there is a lot to do. I have now caught up reading, although admittedly not as in depth as if I had been playing the whole time. I'll now make one of my list posts with reads on everyone from what I've read, as it seems the best way to jump into the middle here.

[HotShot53]

2. Ptlowe - Has seemed mostly sensible in his posts, and I agree with his leads. I'd lean town.
4. TimWoodbury - Claimed VT. Has been a bit all over the place in his posting, but has been very active. Slight town read
6. Whatsausage - Hasn't posted a ton, but when he has he seems logical. Slight town read
7. The white rose - Double voter. Cleared by mitch (in a stupid move by mitch revealing himself without a scum lead). I'll assume nothing funny went on and he's town.
8. Subtleknifewield Replaced by Pixar D2 - Claimed watcher, but mixed up his role last night, and wasn't used N1. Hasn't said much that I can remember. Will have to look into him more. Mostly neutral for now, although obviously a town role if proven.
9. Kevi Replaced by Wing N1 - Went hard after TWR, even after mitch cleared him. It's one thing to say that TWR isn't necessarily 100% town, it's another to go after the only (somewhat) confirmed town for the lynch.
10. Kratos644 Replaced by HotShot53 N2 - Me
12. Cyaniteer Replaced by Soldier4Christ N2 - Someone who won't explain themselves replaced by another person who won't explain themselves. I'd almost think they were under a post restriction or something, but I guess they are just newbies. Neutral as they haven't given much to go on.
13. Ragian - Has been one of the more sensible posters throughout. Would lean town.

So overall... wing would be my biggest scum read at the moment, so I will vote wing

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

So basically all town except the one person who is concerned about your alignment? Your phrasing of your read on White Rose shows that you admit that if it wasnt for Mitch's investigation you would see him as scummy.

I suppose Streaker is scum too?

[Endgame422]

Official Vote Count
Wing(3)ptlowe,ragian,hotshot53
Ptlowe(1)Wing,
Soldier4Christ(2)Timwoodbury,thewhiterose
Timwoodbury(1)Whatsausage
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch Deadline is be Monday the 16th
Ragian i will confirm that doublevote does not show.

[TimWoodbury]

Tim, that part was directed at Ragian. I would argue that its unneeded for you to list yourself in your town reads, I was specifically addressing where ragian mentioned that he had "town cred"
Why is that the part you chose to respond to? Can you explain your flip on wing?

my flip on wing is mostly based off the fact that i mostly thought he was skum due to how much him and streaker "worked together" yesterday with streaks town flip and his earliear explaation of something i have backtracked and backed off him. though i spose he could have worked with treaker knowing streak was town and hopng we would back off if we lynched streak(guess wifom there)

[Ragian]

Why is he at L-2 if you aren't? Wouldn't it say (3) next to him if WTF had used his double vote?

Change your tone. You would know this if you had been paying attention.

White Roses vote is double strength, there is no hidden extra vote.

My tone?!??!

@Tim, what makes you "unsure" about my alignment?

i think because youve not really had much discussion either way based on you, as you see the ones that ive got reads on have had discussion focused alsmot soley on them the way they reacted is how i got my reads(is it the best way nah prolly not but how ive worked it thus far)(oldier aint had discussion on him bt i simpy didnt like how he entered the game

Am I translating your answer correctly if I'm stating that you are unsure about me because no one has debated me? You do realise that no one has debated me because I'm one of the only players that actually has town cred in this game, right?

Declaring yourself to have town cred? Really? Especially when your "town cred" is that streaker read you town and you pursued dakky D1. You are not confirmed town, so you shouldn't act like someone is a fool for questioning you, its a bad look.

Please, I called bullshit on a scummate D1? Don't give me that. Also, "town cred" and "confirmed townie" are not synonymous so don't "act" like I said that.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Princess Bugglegum. Town Roleblocker.

N1 whatsausage
N2 ptlowe

I mucked up with Sausage. I jailed him because i misread an interaction between him and Dakky. Dakky wasnt defnding him, just didnt understand.

I didnt jail Mitch as then whilst he would still be alive he wouldnt have been able to use his power

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Jailkeeper not roleblocker

I'm Voting what because he seems to have that ol' fashioned steam-train mentality, and I don't like it.

Care to explain what would be steam-train mentality?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

too many vanilla townies here someone is lying in the group of them

There are 50% of them. I am curious about, doublevoter, cop, tracker town strength against mafia roleblocker with max two roles unclaimed whether town or mafia.

I would support a massclaim now as I do not believe there will be another town power role in the game.

[Ragian]

1) I don't believe you. Especially not when you accidentally type roleblocker first.
2) If you think there are no more power roles, a mass claim is redundant. Everyone will claim VT.
3) I'm still waiting for clarification about that stuff about my tone.

So, do your victims - so to speak - get confirmation that you jail them?

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Set up is closed but i will say roughly 50 percent of the roles here are vanilla.

Mitch - cop (town)
dakky - roleblocker (scum)
Pix - watcher (claims town)
Rose - doublevoter (claims town)
Wing - jailer (claims town)

Five of 13 is like 38% I would think at least one more power role is out there. And I would think that scum would have it if Wing indeed were town.

[Endgame422]

Official Vote Count
Wing(3)ptlowe,ragian,hotshot53
Ptlowe(1)Wing,
Soldier4Christ(2)Timwoodbury,thewhiterose
Timwoodbury(1)Whatsausage
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch Deadline is be Monday the 16th
Ragian i will confirm that doublevote does not show in votecount.Extra votes are weighted twice so DVer cannot "split" the vote

[the white rose]

can i ask, what is the difference between jailer and roleblocker?