Battle of the Bulge - CLOSED

[chapcrap]

Or I've already provided reasons more than once and you just don't like them. Saying I'm not answering the questions over and over again doesn't make it true.

[pmchugh]

Or I've already provided reasons more than once and you just don't like them. Saying I'm not answering the questions over and over again doesn't make it true.

You have said that you are mindlessly bandwagonning people, but you have gave no reason as to why that's a good thing. Not caring who is lynched is one of the very first scum tells people learn playing this game.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Or I've already provided reasons more than once and you just don't like them. Saying I'm not answering the questions over and over again doesn't make it true.

You have said that you are mindlessly bandwagonning people, but you have gave no reason as to why that's a good thing. Not caring who is lynched is one of the very first scum tells people learn playing this game.

i have to agree with pmc here. maybe if you have a reason for jumping then that would be fine but (havent actually looked. just taking pmc word) if you actually dont have a reason thats scummy IMO

[safariguy5]

I haven't noticed anything particularly blatant bandwagonning by chap, which of his votes lacked justification pmc?

[chapcrap]

Or I've already provided reasons more than once and you just don't like them. Saying I'm not answering the questions over and over again doesn't make it true.

You have said that you are mindlessly bandwagonning people, but you have gave no reason as to why that's a good thing. Not caring who is lynched is one of the very first scum tells people learn playing this game.

Well, you are making up things now. I never said I didn't care who was lynched. I said I used BWs for claims, not for lynches.

CLEVER, I would think that you would know something about paying closer attention to what people are saying after jak's alleged fake case that saf made for him.

I haven't noticed anything particularly blatant bandwagonning by chap, which of his votes lacked justification pmc?

Exactly. I haven't been mindlessly bandwagoning anyone. Just because I've voted numerous people doesn't mean it wasn't justified.

[DoomYoshi]

The vote on me was unjustified. FOS saf for blindeyeing chap.

The reason I suggested slowing the hell down is because jak and jgordon are throwing up so many logical and ill defended points, that it would take a lifetime to argue against it. This has become a game of attrition. If I wanted to play Hive with No Spoils on Trench I would (and I am). I don't this game to become like that.

[jgordon1111]

The vote on me was unjustified. FOS saf for blindeyeing chap.

The reason I suggested slowing the hell down is because jak and jgordon are throwing up so many logical and ill defended points, that it would take a lifetime to argue against it. This has become a game of attrition. If I wanted to play Hive with No Spoils on Trench I would (and I am). I don't this game to become like that.

You are exactly right doom myself and jak are bringing up logical points that you and a couple of others are not defending very well at all.

example, put limits on posts. you and hmmm who was it supporting you on this. oh yeah I remember. How you doing chap.

And before you go and say I misinterpreted what you meant or you wrote it wrong I say this.

You are in such a rush to quiet me and jak,that you are making way to many mistakes now and its showing.

Keep talking yourself into that claim or noose doom,and you will likely take your buddy with you. Even though his current technique consists of dont make me claim LOL,really thats your defense?

[jak111]

I'll wait for the next VC, but if my vote is not already on one of them (I think it's on Chap) then I will place it on one. I agree that Doom seems a bit.. agitated this game. Then he admits we bring up logical cases with not paragraph upon paragraph of saying the same thing about someone.

So Doom, do you think you're making a slip lately, or are you covering for Chap for something?

[DoomYoshi]

Specifically, my problem was about your 'case' on thechuck. You accused him of WIFOM, and then used WIFOM yourself. Nobody pointed that out and by the time I read it, 3 pages had already passed. Also, you say jgordon is contributing, when all he is doing is cheating, misspelling, vote hopping, and insulting.

In what way am I covering chap? Can you give a reason, or are you just going to continue to spam this game?

[jak111]

Basically you're covering him through trying to divert the attention in a way I can't quite put my finger on. You're commenting on the quantity and negatives of jg's and my posts, but you don't comment on any cases that you believe to be valid. Hence, trying to side track a bit. Right now Doom, what case do you think has merit or potential merit at this point?

[DoomYoshi]

Basically you're covering him through trying to divert the attention in a way I can't quite put my finger on. You're commenting on the quantity and negatives of jg's and my posts, but you don't comment on any cases that you believe to be valid. Hence, trying to side track a bit. Right now Doom, what case do you think has merit or potential merit at this point?

I agree with the case on chap. Notice that I fos'ed saf for benefitting chap. Also note that my derailment occured before I caught up to the current case on chap, back when it was still on chuck. I am worried about putting a vote on chap because I don't want an OMGUS accusation from him

In any case, my agitation is due to the fact that I am having trouble keeping up. This is the first time I have ever experienced this, and it isn't because great, well researched cases are coming forward. It is because our survivor is suicidal.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Basically you're covering him through trying to divert the attention in a way I can't quite put my finger on. You're commenting on the quantity and negatives of jg's and my posts, but you don't comment on any cases that you believe to be valid. Hence, trying to side track a bit. Right now Doom, what case do you think has merit or potential merit at this point?

I agree with the case on chap. Notice that I fos'ed saf for benefitting chap. Also note that my derailment occured before I caught up to the current case on chap, back when it was still on chuck. I am worried about putting a vote on chap because I don't want an OMGUS accusation from him

In any case, my agitation is due to the fact that I am having trouble keeping up. This is the first time I have ever experienced this, and it isn't because great, well researched cases are coming forward. It is because our survivor is suicidal.

i know the feelind of agitation. i felt a little when the fake case came upon me...ask ghostly and new guy i was yellling lol.

[safariguy5]

Basically you're covering him through trying to divert the attention in a way I can't quite put my finger on. You're commenting on the quantity and negatives of jg's and my posts, but you don't comment on any cases that you believe to be valid. Hence, trying to side track a bit. Right now Doom, what case do you think has merit or potential merit at this point?

I agree with the case on chap. Notice that I fos'ed saf for benefitting chap. Also note that my derailment occured before I caught up to the current case on chap, back when it was still on chuck. I am worried about putting a vote on chap because I don't want an OMGUS accusation from him

In any case, my agitation is due to the fact that I am having trouble keeping up. This is the first time I have ever experienced this, and it isn't because great, well researched cases are coming forward. It is because our survivor is suicidal.

I'm not benefitting chap. I'm asking for either a link to the page where pmc highlighted which posts of chap were mindless bandwagonning or an actual case put out there.

As I've said before, bandwagon voting is necessary Day 1 because we aren't going to be able to generate great cases against someone unless someone does something really scummy. I've always operated under the assumption that if you give a reason, that shouldn't warrant bandwagonning on Day 1.

[pmchugh]

Or I've already provided reasons more than once and you just don't like them. Saying I'm not answering the questions over and over again doesn't make it true.

You have said that you are mindlessly bandwagonning people, but you have gave no reason as to why that's a good thing. Not caring who is lynched is one of the very first scum tells people learn playing this game.

Well, you are making up things now. I never said I didn't care who was lynched. I said I used BWs for claims, not for lynches.

I don't see a huge difference. Why do you want townies to claim then? The whole point of claiming is a last ditch attempt to stop yourself from being lynched. Getting random people to claim is not playing the game, it is playing the theme.

I haven't noticed anything particularly blatant bandwagonning by chap, which of his votes lacked justification pmc?

Exactly. I haven't been mindlessly bandwagoning anyone. Just because I've voted numerous people doesn't mean it wasn't justified.

What would you like me to defend? I already explained my actions. I'll bandwagon all over Day 1 every game I play, every time. Sorry if you don't like that. I already told you that's how I play.

Now if you had argued that your votes were justified then I would have accepted that.. but you didn't. You just said that you like to BW. Not exactly a great defense.

Also saf, care to contribute something to who you think is scum? Your last 5 posts have all been protecting someone from getting voted rather than offering any potential leads. FOS- I think its quite scummy that you are doing that because it gains "friends" and also gives you ammo to look back on and say "I protected xyz and he turned out town".

[jgordon1111]

Basically you're covering him through trying to divert the attention in a way I can't quite put my finger on. You're commenting on the quantity and negatives of jg's and my posts, but you don't comment on any cases that you believe to be valid. Hence, trying to side track a bit. Right now Doom, what case do you think has merit or potential merit at this point?

I agree with the case on chap. Notice that I fos'ed saf for benefitting chap. Also note that my derailment occured before I caught up to the current case on chap, back when it was still on chuck. I am worried about putting a vote on chap because I don't want an OMGUS accusation from him

In any case, my agitation is due to the fact that I am having trouble keeping up. This is the first time I have ever experienced this, and it isn't because great, well researched cases are coming forward. It is because our survivor is suicidal.

LOL not suicidal doom,just attempting to get everyone to play and pay attention. guilty of most of the rest,in the interest of everyone participating.

[safariguy5]

Or I've already provided reasons more than once and you just don't like them. Saying I'm not answering the questions over and over again doesn't make it true.

You have said that you are mindlessly bandwagonning people, but you have gave no reason as to why that's a good thing. Not caring who is lynched is one of the very first scum tells people learn playing this game.

Well, you are making up things now. I never said I didn't care who was lynched. I said I used BWs for claims, not for lynches.

I don't see a huge difference. Why do you want townies to claim then? The whole point of claiming is a last ditch attempt to stop yourself from being lynched. Getting random people to claim is not playing the game, it is playing the theme.

I haven't noticed anything particularly blatant bandwagonning by chap, which of his votes lacked justification pmc?

Exactly. I haven't been mindlessly bandwagoning anyone. Just because I've voted numerous people doesn't mean it wasn't justified.

What would you like me to defend? I already explained my actions. I'll bandwagon all over Day 1 every game I play, every time. Sorry if you don't like that. I already told you that's how I play.

Now if you had argued that your votes were justified then I would have accepted that.. but you didn't. You just said that you like to BW. Not exactly a great defense.

Also saf, care to contribute something to who you think is scum? Your last 5 posts have all been protecting someone from getting voted rather than offering any potential leads. FOS- I think its quite scummy that you are doing that because it gains "friends" and also gives you ammo to look back on and say "I protected xyz and he turned out town".

I'm going to go with gimli. Promised reading and posting, hasn't done it.

unvote vote gimli

[jak111]

I'm going to go with gimli. Promised reading and posting, hasn't done it.

unvote vote gimli

Personally, I'm going to give him until D2, because he has a LOT to read up on, so it can be frustrating catching up.

[safariguy5]

I'm going to go with gimli. Promised reading and posting, hasn't done it.

unvote vote gimli

Personally, I'm going to give him until D2, because he has a LOT to read up on, so it can be frustrating catching up.

Frankly, it's not a particularly strong lead, but honestly, I do think we have enough information from Day 1, I'm not keen on forcing more claims, especially since I don't see particularly compelling cases out there.

[Ragian]

Sheesh, you go away for some family thingie for a day and there are 8 pages to be read. Like doom, I feel I have a hard time keeping up.

- I think it's weird if jak doesn't want to use his powers tonight if it's babying about other players pursuing cases that he does not like. Also, the reason (8 or so pages back) that I "misunderstood" you was your use of pronouns. It wasn't clear if it was in the singular or plural.

- Saying jg contributes a lot is not necessarily wrong, but I seem to remember most of his posts being comments on people's lack of activity or thanking people for contributing. It comes across as sort of a sports commentry to me at times.

Welcome, gimli. Tough customer for attempting to join this 50 pages game. I think it's a wee bit unfair to vote him already though. Has he even gotten his role pm?

@pmc, why would mafia want to off a survivor? (I'm asking because I'm not too sure, not because I don't think it's true.)

[DoomYoshi]

Vote gimli

Welcome to the Game.

Safari guy, why are you voting for someone who may not have received a role PM yet?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Vote gimli

Welcome to the Game.

Safari guy, why are you voting for someone who may not have received a role PM yet?

...why are you voting for someone who may have not recieved his role PM yet?...kinda seems like....a...CONTRADICTION!!!!

[Ragian]

Quite sure it was a joke. Like the stuff he said not too long ago that a few people got worked up about too.

Also, ghost, do we still need a replacement? Who wants out?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Quite sure it was a joke. Like the stuff he said not too long ago that a few people got worked up about too.

Also, ghost, do we still need a replacement? Who wants out?

lol i know it was a joke. so was mine. and ya spartacus wanted a replacement.

[pmchugh]

@pmc, why would mafia want to off a survivor? (I'm asking because I'm not too sure, not because I don't think it's true.)

They would much rather lynch a townie but a survivor isn't bad for them. At least its not one of the core group, lynching a survivor may not move them much closer to victory in itself but with the night time kill it does improve their position overall.

I'm going to go with gimli. Promised reading and posting, hasn't done it.

unvote vote gimli

Well that seems like a piss poor excuse to me. Even as an active player it is hard for me to catch up in matrix which has a similar number of pages. It seems like you just picked a name out the hat to satisfy me and I can tell you that you failed.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

@pmc, why would mafia want to off a survivor? (I'm asking because I'm not too sure, not because I don't think it's true.)

They would much rather lynch a townie but a survivor isn't bad for them. At least its not one of the core group, lynching a survivor may not move them much closer to victory in itself but with the night time kill it does improve their position overall.

I'm going to go with gimli. Promised reading and posting, hasn't done it.

unvote vote gimli

Well that seems like a piss poor excuse to me. Even as an active player it is hard for me to catch up in matrix which has a similar number of pages. It seems like you just picked a name out the hat to satisfy me and I can tell you that you failed.

ya i replaced in matrix and it was 20 pages and it still took me 2 days to read up and post so for about 50 pages i would give him at least till day 2.