Congrats to CC's New Conqueror Blitz!

[Incandenza]

Man oh man, there's an awful lot of butthurt in this thread. First off, until I see a link to this alleged quote, I'm just going to assume this is but the latest chapter in blitz and fruitcake talking shit to each other, which is fine, they've been doing it for years. But you others need to climb down off your fucking crosses. Blitz is just grinding points, like quite a few others have done, and in a considerably more above-board fashion than some. He's not inviting cooks to 1v1s on complex maps with the promise of teaching them strategy, only to hold out on them. He's not starting team games and then abusing the invite system to ensure he's facing a disorganized team. He's not waiting for a disorganized team to set up a freestyle game and then joining en masse with real-life friends. He's not perma-sitting other accounts. He's not abusing the foe system. And he's certainly not farming, and anyone who says so is unaware of the actual CC definition of the term (and may actually be illiterate, based on some of the posts I've seen here).

If blitz offends your delicate sensibilities so much, then why on earth are you reading threads about him? Go play your own game and let him play his, FFS.

[denominator]

So all you kids that don't like Blitz's methods or want to prevent a particular player from getting to the top, do what I did... I joined against them and took more away in points than I would ever in a thread. Gather your best team and play the man on Pelop War and beat 'em so he doesn't get to the top, don't bitch about it. Sometimes I'd lose but more times than not I would win-- that's where you should fight the fight, not in some bullshit jealousy thread. But again for 99% of you, you'd get your asses handed to you so you'd rather hide behind your posts instead of playing.

I did that and tried inviting some of the people in this thread to play on my team against Blitz. Unsurprisingly, most of them were on someone's foe list and therefore cannot join the game.

[Robinette]

thx all

and thx for all who teamed with me during that time, you are deserve the credit as well, could not of done it without you all, which includes:

*long list of names*

That's it?

THAT'S your big thank you speech?

I am preparing my thank you speech for all who helped me, coming soon.

good thing you are better at collecting points than you are at thank you speeches


did you here about my gold medal...
what a shocker, eh?
but no big thank you speech coming from me,
nope, the only people i can thank are lying dead on the battlefield, lol...

[Crazyirishman]

Doesn't everybody do something in one fashion or another to optimize the amount of points they can win, whether is be 1v1 freestyle, standard 6 man esc,team games with low ranks, or something else. Some are just better at it than others.

[natty dread]

Doesn't everybody do something in one fashion or another to optimize the amount of points they can win

no

[Scott-Land]

So all you kids that don't like Blitz's methods or want to prevent a particular player from getting to the top, do what I did... I joined against them and took more away in points than I would ever in a thread. Gather your best team and play the man on Pelop War and beat 'em so he doesn't get to the top, don't bitch about it. Sometimes I'd lose but more times than not I would win-- that's where you should fight the fight, not in some bullshit jealousy thread. But again for 99% of you, you'd get your asses handed to you so you'd rather hide behind your posts instead of playing.

I did that and tried inviting some of the people in this thread to play on my team against Blitz. Unsurprisingly, most of them were on someone's foe list and therefore cannot join the game.

You should know who has you on ignore..... politely pm them and say wat's up. If they give you a valid reason for having you on ignore, then it's their prerogative, if not then they're a bitch and you've still won without playing them. Not a valid reason, post in callouts or in here... state your point. You'll get a game-- Blitz is a reasonable fella, if one of his teammates has you on ignore, he'll talk to 'em and most likely get you the game you want.

[Incandenza]

Doesn't everybody do something in one fashion or another to optimize the amount of points they can win

no

Yeah, they all pretty much do when it comes to the top of the scoreboard. Dabblers and renaissance men tend not to stay at very high rank.

[natty dread]

Doesn't everybody do something in one fashion or another to optimize the amount of points they can win

no

Yeah, they all pretty much do when it comes to the top of the scoreboard. Dabblers and renaissance men tend not to stay at very high rank.

The "top of the scoreboard" wasn't specified in the original question.

[nagerous]

Doesn't everybody do something in one fashion or another to optimize the amount of points they can win

no

Yeah, they all pretty much do when it comes to the top of the scoreboard. Dabblers and renaissance men tend not to stay at very high rank.

It is pretty easy to maintain a major rank, playing whatever settings you want to, which is what I do.

Sure, I could probably get to brigadier if I dropped the tournaments and specialised in certain settings and was highly selective in what I play like what Blitz is doing, but I would lose the fun in playing as everything would constantly be about the points.

[Incandenza]

Doesn't everybody do something in one fashion or another to optimize the amount of points they can win

no

Yeah, they all pretty much do when it comes to the top of the scoreboard. Dabblers and renaissance men tend not to stay at very high rank.

The "top of the scoreboard" wasn't specified in the original question.

But it was implied in the ongoing discussion in the thread, which is "things that blitz in particular and others in general do to get to the top few slots of the scoreboard."

It is pretty easy to maintain a major rank, playing whatever settings you want to, which is what I do.

I concur. I think anyone with a good head on their shoulders and the discipline to stay away from assdoodles should be able to stay above 2000 without too much effort. But doubling that? Hell, tripling it, like scott and herp and sjnap did? That's a whole different kettle of fish right there.

[Scott-Land]

Doesn't everybody do something in one fashion or another to optimize the amount of points they can win

no

Yeah, they all pretty much do when it comes to the top of the scoreboard. Dabblers and renaissance men tend not to stay at very high rank.

The "top of the scoreboard" wasn't specified in the original question.

It takes a little effort to maintain 4000+ points but anywhere from 3500 - 4000 , I think know any of the top players can do it w/ their eyes closed if they keep a consistent game count. Only some of us can do it with any and all game types tho'

[nagerous]

Doesn't everybody do something in one fashion or another to optimize the amount of points they can win

no

Yeah, they all pretty much do when it comes to the top of the scoreboard. Dabblers and renaissance men tend not to stay at very high rank.

The "top of the scoreboard" wasn't specified in the original question.

But it was implied in the ongoing discussion in the thread, which is "things that blitz in particular and others in general do to get to the top few slots of the scoreboard."

It is pretty easy to maintain a major rank, playing whatever settings you want to, which is what I do.

I concur. I think anyone with a good head on their shoulders and the discipline to stay away from assdoodles should be able to stay above 2000 without too much effort. But doubling that? Hell, tripling it, like scott and herp and sjnap did? That's a whole different kettle of fish right there.

I don't even have the discipline to stay away from assdoodles! And all well and good that those guys managed to get so high but the methods used were questionable at best, Herpes opponents in City Mogul 1vs1 for example were nearly always inexperienced new players who didn't know how freestyle on that map would work, even if they were not directly breaking the rules.. but that is a different point to the one I was actually making, which was a rebuttal of your original quote.

[Incandenza]

I don't even have the discipline to stay away from assdoodles! And all well and good that those guys managed to get so high but the methods used were questionable at best, Herpes opponents in City Mogul 1vs1 for example were nearly always inexperienced new players who didn't know how freestyle on that map would work, even if they were not directly breaking the rules.. but that is a different point to the one I was actually making, which was a rebuttal of your original quote.

When I talk about the top of the scoreboard, I really mean like 4000+, 4500+, not like the first couple of pages. I'm talking like the top tenth of a percent... Anyone who really wants to get up to those rarified heights need to specialize, and sometimes they specialize in something dodgy (or something that was dodgy at the time and has since been ruled illegal). But that's their lookout. And even the "dodgy" bit is open to interpretation, so basically I dunno why there's so much agonized hand-wringing.

[Scott-Land]

Herpes opponents in City Mogul 1vs1 for example were nearly always inexperienced new players who didn't know how freestyle on that map would work, even if they were not directly breaking the rules.. but that is a different point to the one I was actually making, which was a rebuttal of your original quote.

That's the exact point I was trying to make before in an earlier post. Herpes beat a ton of noobs on CIty Mogul , sure, but the point is he he would beat the hell out of you on it as well. Statements like that are a complete joke. Guys that can't beat him on the map and spew out garbage that he has to beat noobs in order to get to Conqueror. Do I agree with getting there by playing 1 vs 1s ? No, but I don't take away from the skill level required because Herpes prolly beat me 50% of the time on the map and would certainly crush your little ass 100% of the time if you grew enough balls to join against him. But you don't, you sit by and judge that he beats noobs. Isn't this entire thread about hypocrisy ?? But yet no one really sees the hypocrisy being spewed by these Monday morning fucking armchair quarterbacks.

[army of nobunaga]

i like drama... but someone please explain to me what blitz is doing that 200 other top players dont? At least he doesnt play nothing but privates down in freestyle trap games 1vs1... which to me is lower than scum.

[nagerous]

Herpes opponents in City Mogul 1vs1 for example were nearly always inexperienced new players who didn't know how freestyle on that map would work, even if they were not directly breaking the rules.. but that is a different point to the one I was actually making, which was a rebuttal of your original quote.

That's the exact point I was trying to make before in an earlier post. Herpes beat a ton of noobs on CIty Mogul , sure, but the point is he he would beat the hell out of you on it as well. Statements like that are a complete joke. Guys that can't beat him on the map and spew out garbage that he has to beat noobs in order to get to Conqueror. Do I agree with getting there by playing 1 vs 1s ? No, but I don't take away from the skill level required because Herpes prolly beat me 50% of the time on the map and would certainly crush your little ass 100% of the time if you grew enough balls to join against him. But you don't, you sit by and judge that he beats noobs. Isn't this entire thread about hypocrisy ?? But yet no one really sees the hypocrisy being spewed by these Monday morning fucking armchair quarterbacks.

Check your facts before you start flaming. I once gave Herpes a shot at his game, it took a lot of checking CC and strategy-application but managed to beat him Game 5963512 *waits for a typical Scott-land bitchfest response*

[ljex]

I don't even have the discipline to stay away from assdoodles! And all well and good that those guys managed to get so high but the methods used were questionable at best, Herpes opponents in City Mogul 1vs1 for example were nearly always inexperienced new players who didn't know how freestyle on that map would work, even if they were not directly breaking the rules.. but that is a different point to the one I was actually making, which was a rebuttal of your original quote.

When I talk about the top of the scoreboard, I really mean like 4000+, 4500+, not like the first couple of pages. I'm talking like the top tenth of a percent... Anyone who really wants to get up to those rarified heights need to specialize, and sometimes they specialize in something dodgy (or something that was dodgy at the time and has since been ruled illegal). But that's their lookout. And even the "dodgy" bit is open to interpretation, so basically I dunno why there's so much agonized hand-wringing.

Just feel like i should clarify my belief on this matter, I could care less if blitzaholic does this to gain points it is his choice how and what he plays. That said it is the fact that he looked at other players in a negative way for using dodgy strategies to get to the top and now is using one himself that bothers me.

[army of nobunaga]

If everyone is honest on this thread they will agree to this following statement --> " The way the point system is set up in CC you HAVE to play with low ranked teammates and beat up on privates in 1vs1 if you ever want to pass people in rank ahead of you that do the same thing"

To me, the system is wrong. To me... anything other than a champion that will play against any group of people any time anywear to defend his skills is a paper champ, to me --- you guys are hating the player rather than the system. We are all competitive... We all want to be on top.

Ive been tempted a few times to play nothing but 1vs1 or 2vs2 feudal where I know withing 3 weeks id reach colonel.. And if im tempted, then the rest have no chance


Blitz is doing nothing that is wrong in the rules, he has to do this to move up because others are doing this and much more.

I would give him the paper champ congratz and move on... maybe goto suggestions and raise hell why our point system sucks so badly.

[Scott-Land]

i like drama... but someone please explain to me what blitz is doing that 200 other top players dont? At least he doesnt play nothing but privates down in freestyle trap games 1vs1... which to me is lower than scum.

Exactly... if you want to attack a player for his shadiness then use examples like that Heckler or Hoekster guy not one that will outplay you under the table. Don't attack guys that are better than you like the Blitz's and the Herpe's.

[army of nobunaga]

i like drama... but someone please explain to me what blitz is doing that 200 other top players dont? At least he doesnt play nothing but privates down in freestyle trap games 1vs1... which to me is lower than scum.

Exactly... if you want to attack a player for his shadiness then use examples like that Heckler or Hoekster guy not one that will outplay you under the table. Don't attack guys that are better than you like the Blitz's and the Herpe's.

I didnt attack him, and I wouldnt, I respect him.

I see others doing that. And it probably is mostly jealousy. But I think the point is that the point system is what is setting everyone against one another.

[jefjef]

i like drama... but someone please explain to me what blitz is doing that 200 other top players dont? At least he doesnt play nothing but privates down in freestyle trap games 1vs1... which to me is lower than scum.

Actually this seems to basically be a "bait and flame" Blitz thread. Really strange thread and strangely it has remained unlocked.

As far as his tactics. I really see nothing at all wrong. He plays games on maps/settings he likes with a team he assembled and works well with. He doesn't use the cheap tactics several others do nor does he creatively use the foe list to shelter themselves. (There's a high ranker that does that crap in this very thread.)

[army of nobunaga]

It really kinda is a shitty thread.

I agree with you... mark this day jef.

[Robinette]

i like drama... but someone please explain to me what blitz is doing that 200 other top players dont? At least he doesnt play nothing but privates down in freestyle trap games 1vs1... which to me is lower than scum.

Hey...

I don't do any of that crap, and i'm inside that top 200, and i know a few others on the 1st page too...

OR

did you mean that about 200 of the 1st page do that crap, leaving about 50 who don't?

[army of nobunaga]

FRick... ok... top 180 people out of 200?

happy?

[Scott-Land]

i like drama... but someone please explain to me what blitz is doing that 200 other top players dont? At least he doesnt play nothing but privates down in freestyle trap games 1vs1... which to me is lower than scum.

Exactly... if you want to attack a player for his shadiness then use examples like that Heckler or Hoekster guy not one that will outplay you under the table. Don't attack guys that are better than you like the Blitz's and the Herpe's.

I didnt attack him, and I wouldnt, I respect him.

I see others doing that. And it probably is mostly jealousy. But I think the point is that the point system is what is setting everyone against one another.

I was agreeing with you... was making a point to all the other posts, referencing Naggers post.