GoVegan/wicked (Merged) [cleared]

[wicked]

If me beating you is unfair, so be it. IT'S A FUCKING GAME. ON THE INTERNET. You will lose, get over it!

[jiminski]

To Klobber -- I feel for you, dude. It's no fun being a victim of a site admin who is entrusted by the site who then abuses her authority, is it?

To Wicked -- So, apparently how you play the game doesn't matter, only winning, hey? It's a philosophy some subscribe to, and which apparently GoVegan does. I don't respect it and am glad I live in a country (unlike say Nazi Germany or Taliban controlled territory) where the dominant philosphy is that the ends don't always justify the means. The "I was wearing my player hat, not my moderator hat" argument is a poor one. I retired from the military. We were held accountable for our actions, all of them, whether on- or off-duty. Drink and drive off duty? You get hammered by civilians and the military justice system, both. get an assault charge in a bar, swindle civilians out of money, or even more than a few speeding tickets, same deal. Civilians only get the hammer once. You don't give the military a bad name and you're held accountable for your conduct 24/7/365. People in positions of any kind of authority (policemen, teachers, sports figure role models, even game site admins, whatever) don't get to hide behind that silly, naive, different roles argument. You give Conquer Club itself a bad name by your behavior when you fail to uphold a standard of fairness because you represent Conquer Club administration. I suggest you grow up and face the fact you have assumed a responsibility, however miniscule in overall significance it may be.

To the others -- So, basically most of you are saying Wicked and her unsportsmanlike behavior is okay bececause it's okay. It's what happens at this site. That's sort of like the someone in the Confederate States of America saying slavery is okay because that's what we do and have always done here. It's the law of the land. Well, I disagree with that thinking. Slavery is simply wrong on the face of it. Unsportsmanlike behavior (using secret advantages your opponent clearly has no intention of using or awareness that you are using or would use until too late, and seeking out such opponents for ambushing this way) is wrong too. Conquer Club would be a better place if it didn't sanction and reward (by a still too high ratings points conferral) such unsportsmanlike behavior, though I fully realize I can't change it. My choice is whether or not to accept it, or to vote with my feet as so many others have done before me.

General Quigley

Quigley you must be on a wind-up surely!?

[wicked]

You're comparing losing fair and square in an ONLINE GAME to slavery? OMFG. Are you KIDDING me?

[GoVegan]

Maybe Quigs should start a team with Klobber to get us back?


My money is on the Taco.

[Optimus Prime]

The "I was wearing my player hat, not my moderator hat" argument is a poor one. I retired from the military. We were held accountable for our actions, all of them, whether on- or off-duty. Drink and drive off duty? You get hammered by civilians and the military justice system, both. get an assault charge in a bar, swindle civilians out of money, or even more than a few speeding tickets, same deal. Civilians only get the hammer once. You don't give the military a bad name and you're held accountable for your conduct 24/7/365. People in positions of any kind of authority (policemen, teachers, sports figure role models, even game site admins, whatever) don't get to hide behind that silly, naive, different roles argument.

This isn't the military, it's a game, that comparison is pointless. AND, on top of that, the OWNER of the site has already laid down the rule that the members of the staff get to be players first and that we should be treated as such within our games. End of story.

To the others -- So, basically most of you are saying Wicked and her unsportsmanlike behavior is okay because it's okay. It's what happens at this site. That's sort of like the someone in the Confederate States of America saying slavery is okay because that's what we do and have always done here. It's the law of the land. Well, I disagree with that thinking. Slavery is simply wrong on the face of it. Unsportsmanlike behavior (using secret advantages your opponent clearly has no intention of using or awareness that you are using or would use until too late, and seeking out such opponents for ambushing this way) is wrong too. Conquer Club would be a better place if it didn't sanction and reward (by a still too high ratings points conferral) such unsportsmanlike behavior, though I fully realize I can't change it. My choice is whether or not to accept it, or to vote with my feet as so many others have done before me.

They didn't do anything unsportsmanlike, unless you count beating you as unsportsmanlike.

As for the slavery comparison, once again, not anywhere close to the same thing. I bolded the part that really makes me chuckle. They aren't secret, never have been. You have just as much opportunity to coordinate with your teammates as everyone else on the site.

[White Moose]

lololol, so you lost, and you lost bad. Get over it already.

[Curmudgeonx]

Gen. Quig is not going to get the point. It has been explained to him some 5 or 6 times.

He is now bordering on trolling.

[KLOBBER]

Oh Klobs, you're one of a kind. *kiss*

Anyone know a really strong brand of disinfectant?

[wicked]

We need to talk about GoVegan too ya know, he's named as a CHEATORZ too, as are clappy and Hera and gc.

[GoVegan]

CHEETORZ!!!!


All your points are belong to us!

[jiminski]

Oh Klobs, you're one of a kind. *kiss*

Anyone know a really strong brand of disinfectant?

[Natewolfman]

quigley you make me sick... seriously... i am in the military RIGHT NOW... already out not durring time of war HA... you have no clue what you are talking about, and the slavery comment, did nothing but piss me off (ask around thats a VERY hard thing to do!) so unless you truely DO have something that is REAL abuse i think this thread is about done, your whineing that she basically beat you... thats all i can get out of your long winded speaches, now unless you have something REAL to bring to the table take your rambles to the flame wars or GD... thank you, go away...

[KLOBBER]

Oh Klobs, you're one of a kind. *kiss*

Anyone know a really strong brand of disinfectant?

Aptly named, but misspelled.

[Anarkistsdream]

To Klobber -- I feel for you, dude. It's no fun being a victim of a site admin who is entrusted by the site who then abuses her authority, is it?

To Wicked -- So, apparently how you play the game doesn't matter, only winning, hey? It's a philosophy some subscribe to, and which apparently GoVegan does. I don't respect it and am glad I live in a country (unlike say Nazi Germany or Taliban controlled territory) where the dominant philosphy is that the ends don't always justify the means. The "I was wearing my player hat, not my moderator hat" argument is a poor one. I retired from the military. We were held accountable for our actions, all of them, whether on- or off-duty. Drink and drive off duty? You get hammered by civilians and the military justice system, both. get an assault charge in a bar, swindle civilians out of money, or even more than a few speeding tickets, same deal. Civilians only get the hammer once. You don't give the military a bad name and you're held accountable for your conduct 24/7/365. People in positions of any kind of authority (policemen, teachers, sports figure role models, even game site admins, whatever) don't get to hide behind that silly, naive, different roles argument. You give Conquer Club itself a bad name by your behavior when you fail to uphold a standard of fairness because you represent Conquer Club administration. I suggest you grow up and face the fact you have assumed a responsibility, however miniscule in overall significance it may be.

To the others -- So, basically most of you are saying Wicked and her unsportsmanlike behavior is okay bececause it's okay. It's what happens at this site. That's sort of like the someone in the Confederate States of America saying slavery is okay because that's what we do and have always done here. It's the law of the land. Well, I disagree with that thinking. Slavery is simply wrong on the face of it. Unsportsmanlike behavior (using secret advantages your opponent clearly has no intention of using or awareness that you are using or would use until too late, and seeking out such opponents for ambushing this way) is wrong too. Conquer Club would be a better place if it didn't sanction and reward (by a still too high ratings points conferral) such unsportsmanlike behavior, though I fully realize I can't change it. My choice is whether or not to accept it, or to vote with my feet as so many others have done before me.

General Quigley

This was one of the most well-written things I have ever read on this site.

[Twill]

OK, this thread is obviously going nowhere.

The accused are obviously not multis.

Report closed, accused cleared.

If you have an issue with any mod on the site for reasons other than multis, feel free to bring it up with me personally.

Have a good one
Twill

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