Moderators: Multi Hunters, Cheating/Abuse Team
oops- this was supposed to be in your other Cheat thread. Sorry... so many I posted in the wrong one. Was supposed to be in this one.maxatstuy wrote:nice job staying on topic...if you want me to stop calling you a cheat, stop cheating. It is a simple solution. You are an abusive player who tries to cover up his inability to play without bruce being there to gift you games by blaming it on dice and your internet connection. Complaining about someone winning 3-1 and 4-2 is hysterical considering how amazing your dice are in every game you are in where bruce isnt there to gift it to you. You created a thread about me being a multi because you were trying to divert attention off of your cheating, and go around to my threads flaming me when they are in general discussion. If anybody, you are the one making this site not enjoyable and your inability to follow the rules should be grounds enough for a ban. If you would like to comment about something pertaining to James Vazquez' abuse of his powers as a mod, or about his innocence, please continue; however if all you are going to say is some crap that you think makes you look any less guilty than make those comments on your cheating thread and stop spamming other threads where you have nothing to sayScott-Land wrote:I'd venture a guess and it's only my opinion but I'm sure there are many many players that would agree with me. CC would definitely be a better place without Maxatstuy. From problems with blocks, cheats and multi's not to mention Live Chat along with abuse in every single one of Game chat that I play. Managed to destroy the site and countless player's reputations- they can no longer fully enjoy what the site has to offer because of the multitude of blocks placed on them due to Max abusing their trust when account sitting for them.maxatstuy wrote: This thread was created because of James Vazquez' inability to separate his biases from his job and because he is clearly abusing his powers as a mod. He is a poor at his job at best and I think conquer club would be a better place with him removed from his position and replaced.
Ban this guy- lift the blocks and the site will become enjoyable once again.
Sure this one isnt more appropriate?Scott-Land wrote:oops- this was supposed to be in your other Cheat thread. Sorry... so many I posted in the wrong one. Was supposed to be in this one.maxatstuy wrote:nice job staying on topic...if you want me to stop calling you a cheat, stop cheating. It is a simple solution. You are an abusive player who tries to cover up his inability to play without bruce being there to gift you games by blaming it on dice and your internet connection. Complaining about someone winning 3-1 and 4-2 is hysterical considering how amazing your dice are in every game you are in where bruce isnt there to gift it to you. You created a thread about me being a multi because you were trying to divert attention off of your cheating, and go around to my threads flaming me when they are in general discussion. If anybody, you are the one making this site not enjoyable and your inability to follow the rules should be grounds enough for a ban. If you would like to comment about something pertaining to James Vazquez' abuse of his powers as a mod, or about his innocence, please continue; however if all you are going to say is some crap that you think makes you look any less guilty than make those comments on your cheating thread and stop spamming other threads where you have nothing to sayScott-Land wrote:I'd venture a guess and it's only my opinion but I'm sure there are many many players that would agree with me. CC would definitely be a better place without Maxatstuy. From problems with blocks, cheats and multi's not to mention Live Chat along with abuse in every single one of Game chat that I play. Managed to destroy the site and countless player's reputations- they can no longer fully enjoy what the site has to offer because of the multitude of blocks placed on them due to Max abusing their trust when account sitting for them.maxatstuy wrote: This thread was created because of James Vazquez' inability to separate his biases from his job and because he is clearly abusing his powers as a mod. He is a poor at his job at best and I think conquer club would be a better place with him removed from his position and replaced.
Ban this guy- lift the blocks and the site will become enjoyable once again.![]()
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WHAT?Tisha wrote:The day of that chat you pasted, you repeated the the same flaming things you had said on previous days to me, and more. Why didn't you include that in your paste? You know, the comments about me sucking James cock, because he stood up for me in chat when you were being an ass..or the comment about me being his whore? All because I was ignoring you.. And before when you were banned, you had just joined chat under different user names to get around the ban. I like that your brother had never came into chat, then you get banned, he starts showing up..You also had sent me private message after private message harassing me, since you weren't allowed in social.. (by the way, don't waste your time next time, I close them without reading them.)

I was taking everything negative which I was going to say and which could be considered flaming, and negating it, so that I wasnt saying anything that was offensive. I basically called it opposite day and allowed people to view my comments however they wanted them to be viewed. I said to James that he is NOT a completely biased mod and I made other statements similar to that.motionstop wrote:from the original report, it looks like vazquez did abuse his power. but i don't see enough evidence. i wish i could see more of the dialogue prior to that part of it. i haven't read through the entire thread, so there may be plenty i'm missing. but from what i did read, it looked like people were name calling rather than solving.
i've known vazquez to be rash because of the game chat and helpful because of the game chat. don't get me wrong, he has helped out a significant amount as a moderator. however, from what has been indicated, it seems as though vazquez is banning you because of something he doesn't want you to talk about. is that right?
i don't know what you were saying, but it could have been not that bad, or awful. i don't know. it doesn't seem like what you did was that bad, but then again, i don't know. were you being unreasonably crass/lude/racist?
either way, from the times i've gone on to chat, it seems as though everyone is calling one another some crass name or associated with blunt stupidity.
i'm curious what the moderators think of this. i'd like to see the dialogue and rational that goes behind a moderator being accused of abusing power. i'm not challenging, i am honestly curious and want to see it for my own benefit. it also might give other players who do encounter problems with moderators to be willing to speak out knowing that will at least be looked into.
but as i stated above, i may have missed that part.![]()
regards
-motionstop
There was plenty of reason for him to be banned. His continually disruptive behaviour in Live Chat nearly ever night he was present, along with his spamming and flaming all added up to him deserving this ban. He tries to make himself out to be so innocent, when he leaves almost all of his actions out of the story.motionstop wrote:that's strange. . .
from what i can see, i'd make a report also. i see no reason for you to be banned.
for the record, i'm glad i'm not the only who is seemingly unnecessarily banned/threatened to be banned.

I have admitted to being guilty for my first two bans and I deserved to be banished for those 24 hour terms. HOWEVER, you are speaking completely out of your dislike towards me in your post and not out of what actually occurred. No matter what you say, that chat in the initial post came straight out of Live Chat and it clearly shows that James and gcwca were flaming me. Action was not taken against either of them for their flaming and instead it was me that was banished. The banishment was wrong and there has been nothing said to justify it.InsomniaRed wrote:There was plenty of reason for him to be banned. His continually disruptive behaviour in Live Chat nearly ever night he was present, along with his spamming and flaming all added up to him deserving this ban. He tries to make himself out to be so innocent, when he leaves almost all of his actions out of the story.motionstop wrote:that's strange. . .
from what i can see, i'd make a report also. i see no reason for you to be banned.
for the record, i'm glad i'm not the only who is seemingly unnecessarily banned/threatened to be banned.
Those of us who were always IN Live Chat during the times he was there know exactly what he did and know that he did in fact deserve it. James Vazquez was NOT abusing his power, he was merely doing his job. Max had repeatedly broken rules and ignored warnings, or tried to get around them in clever ways. Bottom line is, he knows what he did, and this thread is absurd. James has never been anything less than a respectable chat moderator.
If that was the case then somewhere down the line I would have been banished from Live Chat at least once by some other mod other than James. I have had disputes with Herakilla and even though he has expressed a dislike towards me it never effected his ability to mod.Kotaro wrote:motionshop, the only reason you're agreeing with you is, like the entire thread, max is lying.
Let the admins deal with this; James has ALWAYS dealth fairly with people, and you can ask any mod for the Live Chat about max and his many, MANY bans. This whole incident where James "abused his power", just so happened to occur right after max was unbanned from social chat.
the only reason you're agreeing with you is. . . max is lying? that doesn't make sense. i agree with myself?Kotaro wrote:motionshop, the only reason you're agreeing with you is, like the entire thread, max is lying.
Let the admins deal with this; James has ALWAYS dealth fairly with people, and you can ask any mod for the Live Chat about max and his many, MANY bans. This whole incident where James "abused his power", just so happened to occur right after max was unbanned from social chat.
motionstop wrote:i never explicitly said i'd agree with max. i even indicated that i wanted to see the rest of the chat. either way, i know i have been threatened to be banned for a strange reason before, and i didn't report it. i didn't feel the need. because of my situation, i can see that max could be telling the truth. but then again, i don't know.
does anyone else know what max was saying exactly that forced his ban? was he being racist? was he being prejudiced? was he insulting anyone's religion? or was he just being annoying? he's the only one with proof, and the proof is in the pudding. if others don't like him, in general, it's significantly hard to use 'trust me' as evidence. Heck, even if you do like him, 'trust me' doesn't quite cut it.
from what it looks like, max was simply being annoying and people wanted him to refrain from being annoying. that said, if that is the case, one shouldn't be banned for being a nuisance. that's just sheer censorship. people have the right to be obnoxious so long as it isn't inappropriate. and it doesn't appear as though he did anything wrong, even if it was annoying.
so was he being annoying? or going against the forum guidelines? if so, which one in particular?
and where are those chat rules? if there are no explicit rules, there should be some to avoid this sort of mess.
-motionstop
James Vazquez wrote:Re: your chat post that earned you a vacation
Sent at: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:35 pm
by James Vazquez
max your a obnoxiuos person in chat, Follow the rules or pay the consequences. Noone finds you amusing. We'll maybe those that are already banned, and what does that tell ya. There are plenty of ways to communicate here without doing it in open chat. Figure them out and keep your drama outta the public eye.
the chat vacation stands.
james
maxatstuy wrote:motionstop wrote:i never explicitly said i'd agree with max. i even indicated that i wanted to see the rest of the chat. either way, i know i have been threatened to be banned for a strange reason before, and i didn't report it. i didn't feel the need. because of my situation, i can see that max could be telling the truth. but then again, i don't know.
does anyone else know what max was saying exactly that forced his ban? was he being racist? was he being prejudiced? was he insulting anyone's religion? or was he just being annoying? he's the only one with proof, and the proof is in the pudding. if others don't like him, in general, it's significantly hard to use 'trust me' as evidence. Heck, even if you do like him, 'trust me' doesn't quite cut it.
from what it looks like, max was simply being annoying and people wanted him to refrain from being annoying. that said, if that is the case, one shouldn't be banned for being a nuisance. that's just sheer censorship. people have the right to be obnoxious so long as it isn't inappropriate. and it doesn't appear as though he did anything wrong, even if it was annoying.
so was he being annoying? or going against the forum guidelines? if so, which one in particular?
and where are those chat rules? if there are no explicit rules, there should be some to avoid this sort of mess.
-motionstopJames Vazquez wrote:Re: your chat post that earned you a vacation
Sent at: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:35 pm
by James Vazquez
max your a obnoxiuos person in chat, Follow the rules or pay the consequences. Noone finds you amusing. We'll maybe those that are already banned, and what does that tell ya. There are plenty of ways to communicate here without doing it in open chat. Figure them out and keep your drama outta the public eye.
the chat vacation stands.
james