POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 7 Town Win! Premium goes to Sully

[Victor Sullivan]

1. Why are we listening to the mafia traitor on who we should lynch? He doesn’t care about us. He just wants to win and walk away, which is why he wants us to lynch Mandy now or never. Who thinks that’s a good idea?

Not me!

2. If we NK Jones, what stops one of the traitors from dying? Think about this. We can’t protect them both. I know this is WIFOMy, but the likelihood of either of them dying is highly likely and our free ticket goes out the window. Based on that, I’d rather keep around the one that can help us beat the guys who kill at night.

Well, the way I see it, the mafia should want me alive, and considering Jones can't kill, he can't do squat.

3. Why listen to the cult traitor on who we should lynch In case you forgot, the cult gets bigger each night. If we lynch one, they don’t lose anything because another joins their ranks as long as they have a recruiter. If we lynch one of the other recruits like Victor suggests, we just end up in deeper shit. I say cut off the head, find cult the hard way and make sure we kill the mafia.

Vote Tonka

I told you he has to be NK'd!

[nagerous]

vote mandy - edoc reveals the final scum and then NK tonka in the night phase.

[edocsil]

1. Why are we listening to the mafia traitor on who we should lynch? He doesn’t care about us. He just wants to win and walk away, which is why he wants us to lynch Mandy now or never. Who thinks that’s a good idea?
2. If we NK Jones, what stops one of the traitors from dying? Think about this. We can’t protect them both. I know this is WIFOMy, but the likelihood of either of them dying is highly likely and our free ticket goes out the window. Based on that, I’d rather keep around the one that can help us beat the guys who kill at night.
3. Why listen to the cult traitor on who we should lynch In case you forgot, the cult gets bigger each night. If we lynch one, they don’t lose anything because another joins their ranks as long as they have a recruiter. If we lynch one of the other recruits like Victor suggests, we just end up in deeper shit. I say cut off the head, find cult the hard way and make sure we kill the mafia.

Vote Tonka

EDIT: The more I think about this the more screwed town is. We lose Falko as soon as we kill Jones which means except for dumb luck, I doubt there is a likely scenario in which town comes out on top. All we can really do is lynch Mandy tomorrow and pray for a crosskill. Any other scenario ends in bad stuff.

Mis-direct the town much? Personally I think that you getting the names of all the mafia and the cult leader himself is pretty good for a single day. While I agree that lynching Jones right now could increase the towns chances of surviving I may be killed/endgamed during the night, leaving you with 2 unknown scum free to kill as they please. If Jones recruits tonight and you kill him the cult will all just become survivors. By my count there are 4 Cult, 2 scum and 6 town left alive (doesn't count me or Jack) If you kill Jones tonight there is at worst 4 cult(now mere survivors) 2 scum and 4 town. If you don't kill him things get dicey, 5 Cult 2 Scum 4 Town. Cult still don't win, as there are 6 non cult and 5 cult. You hang Jones that day and the following night leaves you with 2 Scum 3 Survivors and 3 Town. Hang one Scum lose a townie in the night, 1 Scum 3 Survivors 2 town. Town wins, even if they fail to kill Jones tonight and have to lynch him in the morning.

This assumes Victor is telling the truth and I tell you the names. Honestly I don't think Victor is crafty enough to plan this all out and flavor fits incredibly well with his claim. It also should be fairly obvious that I am telling the truth by this point. If you help me, I help you.

[pancakemix]

Having analyzed the situation more closely, unvote vote mandy

Lynch Tonka
7:4:3:1
6:2:3:1
5:2:3:1
5:2:2
4:2:2
4:2:1
3:2:1
3:2
3:1

Lynch Freezie
7:4:3:1
7:3:3:1
6:3:3:1
6:3:2
5:3:2
5:3:1
4:3:1
4:3
4:2
4:1

Lynch Mandy
7:4:3:1
7:4:2
6:3:2
6:3:1
5:3:1
5:3
5:2
5:1

This assumes the following:
-All Mafia kills are on town
-If Tonka is not lynched, he is NK'd the following night (tonight)
-If Mandy is not lynched today, he is lynched the following day.
-Edoc tells the truth
-Victor is telling the truth and joins town after Tonka is NK'd
-Falko is removed after Tonka's death
-Mandy is 3rd party and is the only non-cult third party

@edoc: How can you say I'm misdirecting the town when you know I'm town?

[nagerous]

unvote vote /

[edocsil]

I don't know you are town, though at this point I really do assume so. You could have your own agenda, I don't know. You are in accord with my plan now so I guess I will leave it rest.

[strike wolf]

unvote. Reconsidering our best bet is still with trusting victor and edoc. I still would if for no other reason than tradition like to hear from tonka for his defense. I'll reserve my spot on lynching mandy for one of the final two spots.

[nagerous]

Why did I do that you ask?

Well, it seems to me that we don't need to lynch mandy. Why don't we just pressure some of the unclaimed roles, there's only really a few of them out there. One of them is going to be scum no doubt - / is a prime target to be one of the last remaining members of the mafia.. up there with potentially either commander or sheepofdumb.

[nagerous]

Selling out edoc I guess is the counter-argument.

Sorry.

[edocsil]

There are 2 scum. Not 1. If you find one of them and hang them then it you still have the mess with me jones and mandy. You have no case against any of the unclaimed (all 7 of them) if you would like to start at the top of the list and go on until you find a claim you think is a fake, be my guest. And then you get to deal with cult recruits, more NKs and all kinds of loveliness.

[nagerous]

There are 2 scum. Not 1. If you find one of them and hang them then it you still have the mess with me jones and mandy. You have no case against any of the unclaimed (all 7 of them) if you would like to start at the top of the list and go on until you find a claim you think is a fake, be my guest. And then you get to deal with cult recruits, more NKs and all kinds of loveliness.

Doom - Watcher, probably town
Freezie- Captain
Tonka - Cult
/ - ???
tails - ???
pcm - cleared by you
commander - ???
sheep - ????
strike - ???? though very active I doubt he'd be mafia at this stage, as if I was in the mafia I'd be posting limitedly due to the shit they've been through

2 out of 5 chance I make it.

[edocsil]

That makes me chuckle a bit. If PCM were scum would I give you any hint of that yet? your chances are 2 in 6, with little gain for killing the scum. If there is no NK and you guess wrong town loses. Period. Also, you are cult, so why should you dictate what the towns best course of action is when you have nothing to offer.

[strike wolf]

There are 2 scum. Not 1. If you find one of them and hang them then it you still have the mess with me jones and mandy. You have no case against any of the unclaimed (all 7 of them) if you would like to start at the top of the list and go on until you find a claim you think is a fake, be my guest. And then you get to deal with cult recruits, more NKs and all kinds of loveliness.

Doom - Watcher, probably town
Freezie- Captain
Tonka - Cult
/ - ???
tails - ???
pcm - cleared by you
commander - ???
sheep - ????
strike - ???? though very active I doubt he'd be mafia at this stage, as if I was in the mafia I'd be posting limitedly due to the shit they've been through

2 out of 5 chance I make it.

Nag if doom was telling the truth wouldn't that make you cult by default?

[nagerous]

No, I believe Doom about the watcher business, I just said I was doctor protected probably that's why streaker didn't kill me. He said streaker visited me and some shrouded figure who I believe to be the doctor. I am not cult, I don't know why everyone keeps presuming that.

[edocsil]

Nag if doom was telling the truth wouldn't that make you cult by default?

It would, which is why I am loling so hard. His own post damned him. HE denied that he was cult for a while and then goes and accidentally proves it by confirming Yoshi as a watcher.

[nagerous]

Holy Skimming. Have a read of bottom page 55 to top 56, I even unvoted yoshi when he claimed.

[strike wolf]

scene flavor would suggest you were recruited nag...

[strike wolf]

Scene

During the night and reeling from the loss of Mercer, Cutler Beckett ordered a broadside into the Black Pearl. One of his gunners took aim at a night lantern on deck and fired a 12 pound ball at the ship with black sails.

On deck, the night watchmen was impaled by the various splinters and wood fragments that the cannonball made as it tore through the railing. He lay on the deck dying in pools of his own blood.

Almost as if it were chance, a barnacled and peglegged man strode towards him.

"Life is cruel. Why should the afterlife be any different? One Hundred Years before the mast. Will ye serve?"

"I will."

It is now Day 3, with 17 alive, it take 9 to lynch.

[pancakemix]

scene flavor would suggest you were recruited nag...

It would indeed.

Scene

During the night and reeling from the loss of Mercer, Cutler Beckett ordered a broadside into the Black Pearl. One of his gunners took aim at a night lantern on deck and fired a 12 pound ball at the ship with black sails.

On deck, the night watchmen was impaled by the various splinters and wood fragments that the cannonball made as it tore through the railing. He lay on the deck dying in pools of his own blood.

Almost as if it were chance, a barnacled and peglegged man strode towards him.

"Life is cruel. Why should the afterlife be any different? One Hundred Years before the mast. Will ye serve?"

"I will.".

EDIT: Fastposted. Mine is cooler because it bolds where you get recruited.

[strike wolf]

scene flavor would suggest you were recruited nag...

It would indeed.

Scene

During the night and reeling from the loss of Mercer, Cutler Beckett ordered a broadside into the Black Pearl. One of his gunners took aim at a night lantern on deck and fired a 12 pound ball at the ship with black sails.

On deck, the night watchmen was impaled by the various splinters and wood fragments that the cannonball made as it tore through the railing. He lay on the deck dying in pools of his own blood.

Almost as if it were chance, a barnacled and peglegged man strode towards him.

"Life is cruel. Why should the afterlife be any different? One Hundred Years before the mast. Will ye serve?"

"I will.".

EDIT: Fastposted. Mine is cooler because it bolds where you get recruited.

Admitted

[pancakemix]

EBWOP: And killed. Nothing about Calypso, who appears to be the doc.

[got tonkaed]

lets all calm down here people. Who would like to win the game?

By my count there are 14 people left. The easiest solution to everything at this point is to lynch mandy. By doing so, edoc gets endgammed (which he probably deserves for his wonderful assistance to us) bringing us down to 12. I recruit falko tonight bringing the cult closer to endgame. The final person who decides to join us on the bandwagon will get recruited in exchange for their no lynch vote on the next day, bringing the cult across the threshold.

So in short, I would highly recommend lynching mandy as it brings us all one step closer to our goal.

Honestly, winning as town is overrated, winning as part of the cool kids cult club is way cooler and we have sweet perks.

Vote Mandy

Also, edoc, in exchange for our helping you in your cause, I sure would appreciate one more name if youd be so kind.

[nagerous]

Whatever.

I guess I am properly compromised now instead of just semi-compromised.

Seems like you town have plenty of choices for the lynch but I will say take note what I suggested above pancake, it would be better for you than just straight lynching mandy. You could ask why trust me, but I mean there isn't much to gain from not trusting me, if you suspect mandy to have been cult recruited he can be lynched later in the game and that would appease edoc too.

Or you can go with tonka AKA Davy Jones plan.

[strike wolf]

*Draws sword* This is one of the few times that I actually like repeating myself. Cult is my least favorite role (after jester). I shall never join you. so tonka admits it...what count is mandy at right now?

[nagerous]

Actually f*ck this why do I care either way, unvote vote mandy