PBplaya and Mung [closed]

[Fuzzylogic99]

PBplaya
Mung




The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy




Game number(s):

Game 5911239

games they played together
Game 5898155
Game 5891212
[game] 5845023[/game]
Game 586101
Game 5852912


Comments:

I noticed that PBplayer got a large amount of bonuses and Mung did nothing to try to break them.This made me suspicious so I did a check.I noticed several things.1 was that there
were 6 game they played together.They are bothy new and only played about 10 games each
including active games .Ok they could be just pals playing in a few games.I than
noticed that one of the player usaully PBplaya would get a large amount of bonuses.What made it even more odd was that it seemed than at no times in any of those games Mung did
anything to break PBplaya bonuses and often attacked one of the other player.All their games
together are FOW which would be a good cover if they were cheating since it hard
to know what exactly they are doing.They attacked each other to look like they are
not helping each there does not seem to be anything major.I mean nothing that would hurt the other player.I think it prob a secret allaince though theres a thin chace of being
multies.Can you please check this out.....Thank you

[Hsur]

Munq
pbplaya142

Here ya go.........

[Fuzzylogic99]

thanks I was feeling under the weather yesterday and wanted to post this before I laid down
to rest.

If this happened once it would not be a big deal.It could be just a random incedent but I
seen several game.I think that it is planned.

[jefjef]

Joined:
Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:00 pm

Join time is exactly the same.

[Munq]

Yeah, we're friends in real life. Our join times are the same because we were playing as series of Risk games together, and that sparked my memory of this website, where I used to play a few years ago. He thought it sounded neat, so we decided to sign up and play together. Being unable to remember my old account name, I set up a new account and so did pbplaya. We are not in a secret alliance.

[jefjef]

Yeah, we're friends in real life. Our join times are the same because we were playing as series of Risk games together, and that sparked my memory of this website, where I used to play a few years ago. He thought it sounded neat, so we decided to sign up and play together. Being unable to remember my old account name, I set up a new account and so did pbplaya. We are not in a secret alliance.

So you had a previous account. That doesn't look good. Don't recall your old user name?

[Munq]

Yeah, we're friends in real life. Our join times are the same because we were playing as series of Risk games together, and that sparked my memory of this website, where I used to play a few years ago. He thought it sounded neat, so we decided to sign up and play together. Being unable to remember my old account name, I set up a new account and so did pbplaya. We are not in a secret alliance.

So you had a previous account. That doesn't look good. Don't recall your old user name?

Yes, four years ago. And no, can't you read?

Being unable to remember my old account name

[jefjef]

I can read. CAN YOU?

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Did you even contact CC? Sounds like a weak story. Well good luck with this.

[darkangelsguy205]

but this makes it look less like a multi
Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:00 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:00 pm

so there probally freiands or brothers playing on the same computer

[darkangelsguy205]

I can read. CAN YOU?

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Did you even contact CC? Sounds like a weak story. Well good luck with this.

well hes not multipul because he dosent use his old acount so its just a account if he uses it then hes a multi

[Munq]

I can read. CAN YOU?

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Did you even contact CC? Sounds like a weak story. Well good luck with this.

well hes not multipul because he dosent use his old acount so its just a account if he uses it then hes a multi

Thank you, darkangel, it's good to see someone around here has a shred of common sense.

@jefjef: Why the hell would I need to contact them about an abandoned account, which, as has been stated twice, I do not remember the account name for and which I used four years ago on a different IP address? That's asinine.

[Fuzzylogic99]

I think you still have to contact them anyways even if it is abandoned.I believe its the rules .To be honest though I actually dont care rather or not you creating another account bc you abandon the first account. I want to know if you and PBplaya are the same person or you had a secret alliance with him or her.To me that is the bigger issue.If you do get busted I hope its for being a multi with another current account or having a secret alliance rather than getting busted
for starting another account 4 years later.We shall see

[Munq]

We're not the same person, but I suppose the mods will have to decide.

[Hsur]

I'm no mod but, I think in the eyes of CC your still considered a multi even if you don't or can't use your old account.

[TheForgivenOne]

Well, according to the rules, you a are a multi.


Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games or are even in use. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

[Munq]

Well that's absolutely absurd, I have no way to access my old account.

[#1_stunna]

isnt the site only 3 years old?

[Munq]

isnt the site only 3 years old?

It was at some point when I was a freshman in high school, I'm now a freshman in college, so 3.5-4 years ago. The copyright on the frontpage reads 2006, so it must have been second semester.

[jefjef]

Well that's absolutely absurd, I have no way to access my old account.

Thats why you should have CONTACTED CC.

[Munq]

Well that's absolutely absurd, I have no way to access my old account.

Thats why you should have CONTACTED CC.

Well who the f*ck thinks of this? Excuse me for not being entirely too familiar with the specifics of CC precedent.

[Hsur]

I suggest you wait on the official ruling on this and then proceed from there.

[TheScarecrow]

if an account is not being used and is clearly abandoned why brand that person as a multi? its a rather anal way of looking at this dont you think?

[darkangelsguy205]

if an account is not being used and is clearly abandoned why brand that person as a multi? its a rather anal way of looking at this dont you think?

said same thing

[Hsur]

This is from the rules page:

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games or are even in use. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

I don't know why this is, but it is.

[gollygee]

Does Munq's 9th grade account have anything to do with the controversy about him and Pbplaya? Maybe he could find a way to delete that account (i don't know how since he doesn't remember the info for it) and everyone can stop worrying about it? I'd like to see the issue of secret diplomacy between munq and pbplaya resolved because i know them in real life and part of the reason i joined this site was that i wanted to play risk with the two of them.

I realize there is little documented online to support what i am saying, but i would like to think that what i have to say as a "witness" will be taken into account:

me, munq, pbplaya, and sarabdelasovejas all go to the same school and we like to play games together on CC. if you check out our game records, you will see that munq and pbplaya have played multiple games with me and sarabdelasovejas as well. there are a lot of games with the two of them because they are roommates and are usually sitting about 5 feet away from each other when deciding which games to join. thus it is easy for them to play together, which they like to do because they are friends, not co-conspirators or a single entity. I have often witnessed them both take turns in cc games and neither has ever done or said anything to make me believe they are protecting eachothers' backs or targeting other players. they are both competitive and they like to beat each other as much as they like beating other people.

the four of us often play from the same IP addresses: either their dorm or my house. but i promise you on my honor i am not the same person as any of them!! we are people who frequent the same places. i am offering up myself as an example of someone who repeatedly plays games with friends from the same IP address but is not part of a conspiracy. there exist many people who communicate on the internet who are real life friends too!

I just don't think that the evidence is strong enough to ban them from the site. It upsets me that someone can get in trouble or be accused of cheating for wanting to play games with their friends. yes, they have won some of the games they play together. why does this imply trickery? they both had good strategies and played hard. AND, it's not like either of them are winning a strong percentage of the time! munq won 2 games. pbplaya won 1! doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

anyway, i'm saying this because i'd be sad to see them banned from this site. i can understand you guys wanting to protect yourselves from secret diplomacy, cheating is sh*tty, but i also think that players should be innocent before proven guilty. i don't think munq and pbplaya should have to avoid playing together out of fear that someone will be bitter about losing, see that munq and pbplaya are friends, and accuse them of being cheaters. they both like playing against other people, but one of the reasons they joined the site was to duke it out between the two of them (and against me and their other friends at school) as well. I just hope no one ever decides that because i like playing against them i'm a cheater too. that would suck. i hope you guys will make the right decision.