Osama Bin Laden is not dead

[Pope Joan]

He is obviously taken up for interrogation. They will shoot him after they are done with the interrogation. Then they will have photos to release

And I bet you won't see any photos on a coach in Agagagagabad...

I know a lot of you, folks, disagree but, please, don't spoil this thread with any of this nonsense. Let us have a constructive discussion how long and with which methods they will be interrogating him, etc.

[bedub1]

Wrap him in a pig-skin blanket.

[spurgistan]

Comfy chair.

[shieldgenerator7]

Chinese water torture.
I also disagree slightly on this matter. Maybe Osama Bin Laden died form his kidney problems rather than a bullet wound.

[rdsrds2120]

I feel like the Pope is speaking! Oh wait...

To be honest, I'm not familiar with how most people are tortured, except for maybe from that one special I watched on the History Channel...anyways, why would we torture him if we had him? That would just raise even more conspiracy and uproar, wouldn't it?

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[Pope Joan]

Maybe Osama Bin Laden died form his kidney problems rather than a bullet wound.

These two are not mutually exclusive. A bullet in a kidney is a kidney problem...

[Pope Joan]

anyways, why would we torture him if we had him? That would just raise even more conspiracy and uproar, wouldn't it?

Does "we" mean you took part??

The reason to torture him would be to get intelligence. The man must be an incredible source of information, which would extremely useful in the war on terror...

Off course, it would a PR disaster to admit that they apprehend him and are going to interrogate him using torture. However, if they declare him dead, it is no longer a problem! He is going to die during interrogations or will be shot afterwards, which will provide the photographs of his body!!

The only bad thing is that they will be after me now, once I know their secret

[jimboston]

Of all the conspiracy theories, this is the one I WANT to believe.

[natty dread]

Of all the conspiracy theories, this is the one I WANT to believe.

Why?

[shieldgenerator7]

Of all the conspiracy theories, this is the one I WANT to believe.

Why?

Because there's a conspiracy theory out there that says that there is no "war on terror" and that the US government planned 9-11 as an excuse to invade Iraq for its oil resources, and that Osama Bin Laden is not an Iraqi Terrorist but a US CIA Agent.

[Pope Joan]

Of all the conspiracy theories, this is the one I WANT to believe.

Why?

I cannot answer for jimboston but if you use Occam's razor then you will find that my theory is more likely than the official version of events. The latter has changed so many times that it is perfectly clear that the US officials are not telling the truth of what actually happened.

Can you give a more plausible explanation of all known facts, including various official accounts, than my theory?

[jimboston]

Of all the conspiracy theories, this is the one I WANT to believe.

Why?

Because I want the ass to suffer... and I think if we can get some intelligence out of him without having to deal with PR Backlash it is a good thing!

[army of nobunaga]

the guy lived in caves and basements for 10 years with how many millions of dollars for capture? lol.

Do you even have any clue how many former soldiers that are now turned mercenary's that are in Pak. and Afg. that are looking for these big money targets for the bounty?

So that is why I believe he was truely hunted. Something about millions of dollars as a reward seems to get things going.

And as to why I know he is dead- because no fanatic is going to be taken without a fight. Seals are not Cia and are not intel mercs. they are killers. They go in to protect each other and get the job done. They kill. If they are being fired upon, they are not going after prisoners. That is basic doctrine. So in your theory, Bin laden just put his hands up and went quietly. And the seals captured him. Then shot up all the witnesses and really "f'ed" up the compound to mislead evidence collectors, then quietly stole him away. Then quietly stole him to a secret lockdown.


yeah bubba... no way. There are more leaks in the US military than the titanic. No way the most wanted man in the world gets to point a to point b secretly in captivity.

No way a whole navel ship of scrubs is ignorant of a fake burial.


But this was inevitable. You will still find people that think Kennedy was shot by the CIA.. you will still find people that say we never landed on the moon.

etc etc yadda yadda.

[jimboston]

the guy lived in caves and basements for 10 years

Wrong

[jimboston]

No way a whole navel ship of scrubs is ignorant of a fake burial.

So they couldn't have taken him on board... locked him up... and dumped another body that was wrapped or a fake body overboard?

Not possible?

Also... you think the whole ship stopped to watch the burial? I doubt it.

I do think he is dead... but I fantasize about the idea that he is in a hole somewhere being pissed on by CIA Agents.

[Mr_Adams]

the guy lived in caves and basements for 10 years with how many millions of dollars for capture? lol.

Do you even have any clue how many former soldiers that are now turned mercenary's that are in Pak. and Afg. that are looking for these big money targets for the bounty?

So that is why I believe he was truely hunted. Something about millions of dollars as a reward seems to get things going.

And as to why I know he is dead- because no fanatic is going to be taken without a fight. Seals are not Cia and are not intel mercs. they are killers. They go in to protect each other and get the job done. They kill. If they are being fired upon, they are not going after prisoners. That is basic doctrine. So in your theory, Bin laden just put his hands up and went quietly. And the seals captured him. Then shot up all the witnesses and really "f'ed" up the compound to mislead evidence collectors, then quietly stole him away. Then quietly stole him to a secret lockdown.


yeah bubba... no way. There are more leaks in the US military than the titanic. No way the most wanted man in the world gets to point a to point b secretly in captivity.

No way a whole navel ship of scrubs is ignorant of a fake burial.


But this was inevitable. You will still find people that think Kennedy was shot by the CIA.. you will still find people that say we never landed on the moon.

etc etc yadda yadda.

I concur.

[jimboston]

Do you even have any clue how many former soldiers that are now turned mercenary's that are in Pak. and Afg. that are looking for these big money targets for the bounty?

No I don't... how many are there?

... and you know this because?

[natty dread]

Because I want the ass to suffer...

I rest my case.

[army of nobunaga]

Do you even have any clue how many former soldiers that are now turned mercenary's that are in Pak. and Afg. that are looking for these big money targets for the bounty?

No I don't... how many are there?

... and you know this because?

hell no I dont know. Its not a countable number. Its a FRIGGIN lot.

You can ask any person that has been to the region and they will tell you that there are more british/american/aussie dudes running around in bluejeans and sunglasses than there are military.

[army of nobunaga]

Jim, you guys cannot have your pie and eat it too... I mean I read a lot of moaning and complaints about the price the war on terror has cost. But you have to realize not all of that money is going to toilet paper and commode seats. The US has spent what was the last count.. over a trillion? bucks on this fight.

I promise you there are more contract and intel and private personal AND military on the ground in hot spots than we have ever fielded in any war. Maybe even more than in the civil war. OBL could not just run to the corner market for a kabob and a paper.

[army of nobunaga]

btw, if you really want a conspiracy that has half a chance of being true... ask how long the US government sat on OBL location? Seems convenient that we nab him when election time is coming up.

I know from personal experience that some times the US or allies will sit on intel.. For various reasons. We have the sat. and ground personnel to basically sit on a target and follow him for a long time. ..

so to me that should be your conspiracy post topic.


but anyway, sorry for the multi posting.

[InkL0sed]

btw, if you really want a conspiracy that has half a chance of being true... ask how long the US government sat on OBL location? Seems convenient that we nab him when election time is coming up.

I know from personal experience that some times the US or allies will sit on intel.. For various reasons. We have the sat. and ground personnel to basically sit on a target and follow him for a long time. ..

so to me that should be your conspiracy post topic.


but anyway, sorry for the multi posting.

We're not in an election year. Election years are every other year.

I fail to see how this is convenient timing.

[pimpdave]

Yeah, and I'm sure if wikileaks could somehow show that the information was being sat upon, they would. I'm sure the White House knows that too. There doesn't seem to be enough of a pro anywhere to sit on it.

You have a shot at Bin Laden you don't hesitate at all. You don't make the mistake that Bush did and there's no reason to pussy foot around like Clinton, after 9/11 happened. I still wish though that Clinton had just said "suck it" to Pakistan when he had his chances and took that bastard out.

[MeDeFe]

Comfy chair.

Fetch... THE CUSHIONS!

[40kguy]

they will do new things that will kill him of pain