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What's Trump up to?

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What's the toupee's real motivation?
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He's always busy feeding his enlarged ego. Not sure, if it can be treated, as we would an enlarged prostate.
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Sneaking!

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I haven't followed the Trump campaign at all, so I have no solid evidence for anything. I think he started as a kind of game or to see what would happen (i.e. feed his ego). Once he started winning polls, I think he now thinks he can win and he thinks he can win without changing what he does. A lot of my family and friends are conservatives. Not one of them is a Trump supporter. I wonder if Trump is like Nickelback - popular, sells lots of albums, but no one admits to liking him/them.

I read on Politico that some bigwig political analyst thinks Ted Cruz is going to win the nomination. I'm not sure I like him any more than Trump at this point.
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Sabotaging the Democrats?

I think you mean Republicans.

He is a Republican and has always been one. After all, it is the party that attracts all the racists.

His popularity with white middle aged under educated Americans will ultimately hurt them.
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mrswdk wrote:What's the toupee's real motivation?
Trump is many things but one thing he is not is politician. He may have an ego the size of pluto's moon, but he is not a politician. (That isn't to say he doesn't know how to use the system, especially with his use of eminent domain, but that in general he doesn't flat out lie about his motivations.)

It is clear that Trump has reached a certain level of success, dare I say a P.T. Barnum level of success. Despite the myths that surround him, Trump fails and he does so often. But he's no Ronda Rousey, he gets up from the occasional defeat and keeps moving up. Trump is a very simple person to read. His own ego thinks he can do a better job and thus. fed up with people who are not him, he wants to run things.

While his tactics are complex, his motivation is not. He is a god in his own mind. He honestly believes he can run the country the same way he can run his various enterprises.

I mean it's not like he did this on a whim; he has been pushed towards this direction for decades.

Again. it is his tactics that are complex. He frequently uses the same rule book as Obama (a lot of his tactics seems to be a literal reading of "Rules for Radicals"), with the exception that he often grabs things that have enough fact so as to not be caught in a bold faced lie. He focuses on populist sentiment and trust in the American spirit. (A good example is the building of the wall rhetoric, since a significant number of illegal immigrants are a result not of illegal border crossings, but of Visa overstays.) Neither the mainstream media nor the establishment of either party are capable of withstanding any pushback. Trump knows the secret mantra; all publicity is, in the end positive. The only thing that they can do to stop him is to ignore him (and they won't do that because they are that stupid). Any attack gives him free publicity which makes him stronger.

And in the end, Trump wants to be stronger.
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notyou2 wrote:After all, it is the party that attracts all the racists.
:twisted: I hate to tell you, but you have been trolled and trolled big time. :twisted:
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tzor wrote:
notyou2 wrote:After all, it is the party that attracts all the racists.
:twisted: I hate to tell you, but you have been trolled and trolled big time. :twisted:

Sorry notyou2, you are wrong! The Republican Party is NOT racist.

The people who vote Republican are.
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notyou2 wrote:He is a Republican and has always been one.
He was registered Democrat for about 9 years and donated quite a lot of money to them.
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mrswdk wrote:
notyou2 wrote:He is a Republican and has always been one.
He was registered Democrat for about 9 years and donated quite a lot of money to them.
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mrswdk wrote:
notyou2 wrote:He is a Republican and has always been one.
He was registered Democrat for about 9 years and donated quite a lot of money to them.
NY2 was probably trolling (in a completely legal way). In one of the debates, someone (Bush maybe?) was making a deal about how Trump had donated to Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, etc. and Trump responded with the best thing he's ever said in this campaign season (and something that gets very little play for obvious reasons) that he, like all rich people and businesses, donates to both parties.
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There's not a "None of the Above" option...

He's not doing it for fun.

He's doing it to raise his brand so he can make even more money after he loses/drops out.

Look at how Palin went from relative obscurity to "celebrity". He figures if a no-nothing idiot from Alaska can turn herself into a household name; he can take his already well known brand and make it explode. He probably got upset that the Kardashians were getting to be "more famous" than he... it hurt his ego. So he has calculated he can surpass their level of fame by running. Simple math.
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jimboston wrote:Look at how Palin went from relative obscurity to "celebrity".
Celebrity? What is the color of the sky on your world? She went from being a governor of a State to the but of late night jokes, everyone quoting from comedians pretending to be her. She wasn't raking in the big bucks as a result of being treated like garbage by an Establishment Republican who used the excess money generated from his failed presidential run to secure his position in the senate for a couple of more terms.
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tzor wrote:
jimboston wrote:Look at how Palin went from relative obscurity to "celebrity".
Celebrity? What is the color of the sky on your world? She went from being a governor of a State to the but of late night jokes, everyone quoting from comedians pretending to be her. She wasn't raking in the big bucks as a result of being treated like garbage by an Establishment Republican who used the excess money generated from his failed presidential run to secure his position in the senate for a couple of more terms.
Sarah Palin was the Governor of a State no one paid attention to. She was well compensated for that role; earning $125K/year. In that state a salary like that probably puts one in the Top 1% in the State; certainly the Top 5%. Regardless of her earnings there, she was relatively obscure from the perspective of the average American in the Lower 48.

After her failed run as VP; she did "take it on the chin" from a number of late-night comedians, pundits, and politicians. This verbal abuse was not unearned... as she is a true idiot. I don't think she's completely dumb; but I do think she was too dumb to keep her mouth shut on issues that she knew nothing about. She also believes that people and dinosaurs coexisted on this Earth; i.e. both species were living AT THE SAME TIME. That believe alone is enough reason justify some abuse from comedians.

Fast-forward to her post election persona. She is now worth an estimated $12million. She is very popular among a certain segment of our population and she is definitely a "celebrity". She had a few years of high earnings on TV and on the speaking circuit.

So yeah; I think my summary of saying she went "from relative obscurity to 'celebrity'" is accurate.
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Bernie Sanders wrote:
tzor wrote:
notyou2 wrote:After all, it is the party that attracts all the racists.
:twisted: I hate to tell you, but you have been trolled and trolled big time. :twisted:

Sorry notyou2, you are wrong! The Republican Party is NOT racist.

The people who vote Republican are.
Bernie, I would have figured that by your 75th year your reading comprehension would be better. I never said the Republican party is racist. Read my quote again.
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thegreekdog wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
notyou2 wrote:He is a Republican and has always been one.
He was registered Democrat for about 9 years and donated quite a lot of money to them.
NY2 was probably trolling (in a completely legal way). In one of the debates, someone (Bush maybe?) was making a deal about how Trump had donated to Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, etc. and Trump responded with the best thing he's ever said in this campaign season (and something that gets very little play for obvious reasons) that he, like all rich people and businesses, donates to both parties.
Thank you tgd. In Canada many people and companies donate to both of the two main parties, ad some even to other less influential parties as well as the main two. However, donation amounts are limited in this country.

When I said he was "Republican" I was referring to what I believe his personal leanings are and have always been, and the fact that he is running for that party confirms my opinion. We all know which party favours the rich, thus their popularity with the rich, corporations, and the dumb blind followers and hangers on.
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notyou2 wrote:We all know which party favours the rich, thus their popularity with the rich, corporations, and the dumb blind followers and hangers on.
Actually, I don't think most people do know which party favors the rich, corporations, and dumb blind followers and hangers on. I think people believe that they know, but they don't.
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notyou2 wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
notyou2 wrote:He is a Republican and has always been one.
He was registered Democrat for about 9 years and donated quite a lot of money to them.
NY2 was probably trolling (in a completely legal way). In one of the debates, someone (Bush maybe?) was making a deal about how Trump had donated to Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, etc. and Trump responded with the best thing he's ever said in this campaign season (and something that gets very little play for obvious reasons) that he, like all rich people and businesses, donates to both parties.
Thank you tgd. In Canada many people and companies donate to both of the two main parties, ad some even to other less influential parties as well as the main two. However, donation amounts are limited in this country.

When I said he was "Republican" I was referring to what I believe his personal leanings are and have always been, and the fact that he is running for that party confirms my opinion. We all know which party favours the rich, thus their popularity with the rich, corporations, and the dumb blind followers and hangers on.
Donations weren't the only thing I mentioned. He was also affiliated Democrat.

I mean, this is the guy who once said 'I probably identify more as a Democrat'.
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trump's up your arse
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jimboston wrote:Sarah Palin was the Governor of a State no one paid attention to.
O'RLY? No one pays attention to the state of Alaska? That's news to me. I can see the occasional "Fly Over" State, but there are plenty of issues that keeps the state of Alaska on the national news for as many decades as I can remember.
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jimboston wrote:After her failed run as VP; she did "take it on the chin" from a number of late-night comedians, pundits, and politicians. This verbal abuse was not unearned... as she is a true idiot.
REALLY? SHE IS "a true idiot?" According to whom? You? The one who has never noticed all the news items on the networks that covers Alaska? The one who thinks $125K is a millionaire salary? My god dammed small town Supervisor is getting $115K
jimboston wrote:I don't think she's completely dumb; but I do think she was too dumb to keep her mouth shut on issues that she knew nothing about.
Are you talking about Palin or Trump?

And wealth doesn't mean one is not obscure. Former Governor Pataki is still fairly well off but few people even know he is currently a candidate for president. And NEW YORK ain't Alaska.
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Palin is a freaking intellectual you fucking haters!

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Ok, so she resigned halfway through her first term as Governor, but at least she can see Russia from her house. Hmm, can she GoranZ house too?
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Whatever you say Bernie-Wan-Kenobi

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Sarah Palin is incredibly attractive. That's about all I can say about her.
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thegreekdog wrote:Sarah Palin is incredibly attractive. That's about all I can say about her.
What would you like to do to her?
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mrswdk wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:Sarah Palin is incredibly attractive. That's about all I can say about her.
What would you like to do to her?
I can't say (see above).
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