The plight of the minorities

[mrswdk]

'Still experiencing a cultural genocide'

Did you know that Native Americans between the ages of 18 and 24 have higher rates of suicide than any other ethnicity in America? Or that a quarter of Native American children live in poverty? Or that Native American and Alaska Native women are, according to a government study, 2.5 times more likely to be raped or sexually assaulted than other women in the USA?

These were some of the reasons that journalist Vincent Schilling, who is Akwesasne Mohawk and editor of the Indian Country Today Media Network, created the hashtag #NoIWontJustMoveOn. It has been used in more than 15,000 tweets.

Speaking exclusively to BBC Trending, Schiller said that although many people have some awareness of historic atrocities committed against his people, there is "extensive amount of misunderstanding toward the history of Native American and First Nations people."

He added that the residual effects of colonisation meant Native Americans have also experienced "cultural genocide".

"There are still a plethora of adult Native people that have experienced being taken from their families by force, shipped off to Native residential schools - where they were subjected to being beaten if they spoke their native languages or became victims of sexual assault by school officials or were left to die if they contracted a myriad of diseases."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-36277112

[waauw]

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It's very unfortunate, but it really is framed the wrong way. None of this is the least bit surprising when one understands how tribal sovereignty really influences these communities. The government corralled most of these people into unwanted and barren lands, where they remain today. These communities have inevitably stagnated because of this, but that's all the more reason why they really can't prosper alone.

These people are trying to run dwindling isolationist city states in the 21st century, in an era where trade is paramount to almost everyone in the world. Of course they can't compete; there's no way to provide decent infrastructure like that anymore. Underfunded (not to mention largely culturally biased, corrupt, and poorly trained) tribal police and tribal courts mean that more criminals remain at large; underfunded education means that few can grow up to succeed in the modern world unless they leave their communities behind. Segregation is not the answer, tribal people, like everyone need to embrace a more inclusive and efficient ideal.

[ConfederateSS]

-------They already know "THE IDEAL". That the Stars and Stripes is the real flag of hatred. Wake up AMERICA... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...You left out. As far as Americans go. The Native Americans are invisible in American society. They are never brought up. When minorities are talked about. African,Latin,Asian,Arabic etc...never...ever Native American issues. ...The RACE OF SORROWS...

[mrswdk]

-------They already know "THE IDEAL". That the Stars and Stripes is the real flag of hatred. Wake up AMERICA... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...You left out. As far as Americans go. The Native Americans are invisible in American society. They are never brought up. When minorities are talked about. African,Latin,Asian,Arabic etc...never...ever Native American issues.

I may be wrong but I got the impression that the only time south and east Asians stop being invisible in American discourse is when the speaker is making them the butt of racist stereotyping.

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-------They already know "THE IDEAL". That the Stars and Stripes is the real flag of hatred. Wake up AMERICA... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...You left out. As far as Americans go. The Native Americans are invisible in American society. They are never brought up. When minorities are talked about. African,Latin,Asian,Arabic etc...never...ever Native American issues. ...The RACE OF SORROWS...

Um, what exactly can our local congressmen do for people of a sovereign nation? Of course they aren't brought up; those on the reservation (78%) don't pay federal or state taxes, nor are those lands subject to state law. There's not much the government can do for them.

[ConfederateSS]

-------They already know "THE IDEAL". That the Stars and Stripes is the real flag of hatred. Wake up AMERICA... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...You left out. As far as Americans go. The Native Americans are invisible in American society. They are never brought up. When minorities are talked about. African,Latin,Asian,Arabic etc...never...ever Native American issues. ...The RACE OF SORROWS...

Um, what exactly can our local congressmen do for people of a sovereign nation? Of course they aren't brought up; those on the reservation (78%) don't pay federal or state taxes, nor are those lands subject to state law. There's not much the government can do for them.

-------Let's see,The USA took their land,broke every treaty with them. Committed mass genocide of a race of people. Including giving them blankets in the name of friendship. ...Blankets full of SMALL POX that is...
-------What more can the government do...?Yes,nothing is nothing......People in Texas don't pay Federal tax. Blah...Blah...
-------I remember in the 70's and early 80's I went to reservations with my Father. The Knights of Columbus would hand out presents at Christmas time. Horrible place to live. But Obama wants to bring in refugees from the Middle East. Free Housing,etc...etc...NOW SAY THAT AGAIN...WHAT CAN THE US GOVERNMENT DO ABOUT PEOPLE FROM A SOVEREIGN NATION?....DUMB ASS....Not to mention our own Homeless Vets living on the streets...BLAH!BLAH!BLAH!....ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)....F.Y.I...Native Americans have TRI- Citizenship ...Their Tribe,THE USA and Canada...They are the only REAL AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY...............

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-------They already know "THE IDEAL". That the Stars and Stripes is the real flag of hatred. Wake up AMERICA... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...You left out. As far as Americans go. The Native Americans are invisible in American society. They are never brought up. When minorities are talked about. African,Latin,Asian,Arabic etc...never...ever Native American issues. ...The RACE OF SORROWS...

Um, what exactly can our local congressmen do for people of a sovereign nation? Of course they aren't brought up; those on the reservation (78%) don't pay federal or state taxes, nor are those lands subject to state law. There's not much the government can do for them.

-------Let's see,The USA took their land,broke every treaty with them. Committed mass genocide of a race of people. Including giving them blankets in the name of friendship. ...Blankets full of SMALL POX that is...
-------What more can the government do...?Yes,nothing is nothing......People in Texas don't pay Federal tax. Blah...Blah...
-------I remember in the 70's and early 80's I went to reservations with my Father. The Knights of Columbus would hand out presents at Christmas time. Horrible place to live. But Obama wants to bring in refugees from the Middle East. Free Housing,etc...etc...NOW SAY THAT AGAIN...WHAT CAN THE US GOVERNMENT DO ABOUT PEOPLE FROM A SOVEREIGN NATION?....DUMB ASS....Not to mention our own Homeless Vets living on the streets...BLAH!BLAH!BLAH!....ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)....F.Y.I...Native Americans have TRI- Citizenship ...Their Tribe,THE USA and Canada...They are the only REAL AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY...............

So what, we should prop up a failing and corrupt system with reparation money? Maybe take a page out of Canada's book then making them places to live, places to get help and education, some money to live on, that might help them pull themselves out of poverty and dependency, oh wait!
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/jesse-kline-3

[Keefie]

http://www.gsdrc.org/document-library/c ... -tensions/

[riskllama]

shocking, keefie. utterly shocking...
mrs likes to call em terrorists...

[ConfederateSS]

-------To Jgordon1111.....I don't hide in PM's....Say it loud....say it proud....
-------I said the Indians are the only real Americans...I don't believe in P.C...
-------I only used The usa(yes, I know about the lower case. ) and Canada. Because Mexico and countries south of Mexico. Can't take care of themselves. The usa and Canada are 2 sides of the same coin.
-------I have many family and friends of the Nations. One of my friends turned down a 6 figure job with NASA. He took a job for 40k a year working on a reservation in Arizona to help. His brother is a EMT on a reservation(if that is what they are called in Canada). Outside Montreal. The conditions suck. The governments of the same coin, treat The Nations like crap.Like always. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...Now others say what has tried to have been done to make up for genocide against the Nations. Lets see if it was a bunch of people from the WWII genocide. Lets see how quick people jump to the for front of a crime against Humanity. Ironic usa...Ironic. BLAH!BLAH!BLAH!....

[jgordon1111]

-------To Jgordon1111.....I don't hide in PM's....Say it loud....say it proud....
-------I said the Indians are the only real Americans...I don't believe in P.C...
-------I only used The usa(yes, I know about the lower case. ) and Canada. Because Mexico and countries south of Mexico. Can't take care of themselves. The usa and Canada are 2 sides of the same coin.
-------I have many family and friends of the Nations. One of my friends turned down a 6 figure job with NASA. He took a job for 40k a year working on a reservation in Arizona to help. His brother is a EMT on a reservation(if that is what they are called in Canada). Outside Montreal. The conditions suck. The governments of the same coin, treat The Nations like crap.Like always. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...Now others say what has tried to have been done to make up for genocide against the Nations. Lets see if it was a bunch of people from the WWII genocide. Lets see how quick people jump to the for front of a crime against Humanity. Ironic usa...Ironic. BLAH!BLAH!BLAH!....

The point was that before the Spanish and Europeans arrived,thre may have been different tribes/nations/clans etc.,we were all one people. They made the borders and rules that separated ALL OF THE NATIVE AMERICANS from Canada to Peru, and still do.

You want something to talk about ask why they did that and still enforce it? Wall not so much lately, But drumpf will again for sure.

[tzor]

The point was that before the Spanish and Europeans arrived,thre may have been different tribes/nations/clans etc.,we were all one people. They made the borders and rules that separated ALL OF THE NATIVE AMERICANS from Canada to Peru, and still do.

Sorry, but I have to call you out on the kumbaya moment. The various groups (at least in the areas that became the United States) were like (no more and no less) everyone else. They made alliances, they broke alliances, they fought each other, they fought with each other, they agreed and they disagreed. Now there were a lot of great things that went on (the Iroquois confederacy is a model of government that was very much on a par with other government organizations at the time and probably was superior in most ways to the original articles of Confederation).

And I would not hesitate in the least to say that if the Europeans weren't as bigoted and pig headed as they were, those same tribes would have easily integrated with the various colonies and history would be a lot different as a result.

[Dukasaur]

It's actually worse than that. In some areas the tribal warfare was almost never-ending and genocidal. The European nations took breaks from fighting each other, some of the native American tribes never did. Internecine warfare is the most likely reason for the extinction of the Mayan city-states. They literally killed each other to the point where it was not possible to sustain civilization. The Iroquois Confederacy was shining example of diplomacy, but it only happened after a century of bloody warfare finally persuaded them to come to the bargaining table. Nor was the peace amongst the Iroquois extended to others - they completely exterminated the Neutral tribe, the Tobacco Indians, and the Hurons. The war between the Cree and the Inuit lasted possibly 300 years, maybe more.

"One people" is a fairy tale only Disney could spin. Ask the Pima if they felt like "one people" with the Yavapai, who would beat them up and steal their harvest on an almost annual basis.

[jgordon1111]

The point was that before the Spanish and Europeans arrived,thre may have been different tribes/nations/clans etc.,we were all one people. They made the borders and rules that separated ALL OF THE NATIVE AMERICANS from Canada to Peru, and still do.

Sorry, but I have to call you out on the kumbaya moment. The various groups (at least in the areas that became the United States) were like (no more and no less) everyone else. They made alliances, they broke alliances, they fought each other, they fought with each other, they agreed and they disagreed. Now there were a lot of great things that went on (the Iroquois confederacy is a model of government that was very much on a par with other government organizations at the time and probably was superior in most ways to the original articles of Confederation).

And I would not hesitate in the least to say that if the Europeans weren't as bigoted and pig headed as they were, those same tribes would have easily integrated with the various colonies and history would be a lot different as a result.

Tzor, I did not say there were not fighting among themselves, what I said was Canada,usa,mexico etc, boders were made by Spanish and Europeans, not the original inhabitants,
Alot of the accepted history that is taught was brought to you by as always the conquers

[jgordon1111]

It's actually worse than that. In some areas the tribal warfare was almost never-ending and genocidal. The European nations took breaks from fighting each other, some of the native American tribes never did. Internecine warfare is the most likely reason for the extinction of the Mayan city-states. They literally killed each other to the point where it was not possible to sustain civilization. The Iroquois Confederacy was shining example of diplomacy, but it only happened after a century of bloody warfare finally persuaded them to come to the bargaining table. Nor was the peace amongst the Iroquois extended to others - they completely exterminated the Neutral tribe, the Tobacco Indians, and the Hurons. The war between the Cree and the Inuit lasted possibly 300 years, maybe more.

"One people" is a fairy tale only Disney could spin. Ask the Pima if they felt like "one people" with the Yavapai, who would beat them up and steal their harvest on an almost annual basis.

A piece of advice Duk,you for the most part seem reasonable, find at least 3 tribal elders and ask them about the points, you have shown here, and compare the answers you get, you will then come closer to the real truth,than anything you can read on wiki or anywhere else.

[hotfire]

It's actually worse than that. In some areas the tribal warfare was almost never-ending and genocidal. The European nations took breaks from fighting each other, some of the native American tribes never did. Internecine warfare is the most likely reason for the extinction of the Mayan city-states. They literally killed each other to the point where it was not possible to sustain civilization. The Iroquois Confederacy was shining example of diplomacy, but it only happened after a century of bloody warfare finally persuaded them to come to the bargaining table. Nor was the peace amongst the Iroquois extended to others - they completely exterminated the Neutral tribe, the Tobacco Indians, and the Hurons. The war between the Cree and the Inuit lasted possibly 300 years, maybe more.

"One people" is a fairy tale only Disney could spin. Ask the Pima if they felt like "one people" with the Yavapai, who would beat them up and steal their harvest on an almost annual basis.

A piece of advice Duk,you for the most part seem reasonable, find at least 3 tribal elders and ask them about the points, you have shown here, and compare the answers you get, you will then come closer to the real truth,than anything you can read on wiki or anywhere else.

They did manage to survive on North America for 10,000+ years....something that has yet to be proven by the subsequent colonizing people.

[Bernie Sanders]

I'm worried about the plight of minorities of China.

[apey]

Stop trtying to b a troll bernster! Mrs will never aswer you
You live in a nursing home not under a bridge
Also women dont like you so...

[waauw]

Stop trtying to b a troll bernster! Mrs will never aswer you
You live in a nursing home not under a bridge
Also women dont like you so...

the young women do apparently.

[apey]

Stop trtying to b a troll bernster! Mrs will never aswer you
You live in a nursing home not under a bridge
Also women dont like you so...

the young women do apparently.

Maybe the real bernie sanders but this guy is a tool ifhe really is a guy

[Bernie Sanders]

Stop trtying to b a troll bernster! Mrs will never aswer you
You live in a nursing home not under a bridge
Also women dont like you so...

APEy, I would have you jumping through hoops, if you met me personally. Sorry, but I only play with ladies and you ain't no .......

[Bernie Sanders]

Stop trtying to b a troll bernster! Mrs will never aswer you
You live in a nursing home not under a bridge
Also women dont like you so...

the young women do apparently.

Maybe the real bernie sanders but this guy is a tool ifhe really is a guy

Go eat some paint chips, since you must of cleaned your momma's section 8 housing of them.

[apey]

Bernie really?
*in a whining bitchy (altho faked) voice (but bernie should be used to women and blow up dolls and lil animals faking it) voice ad stommping feet*
Stop baiting me!!
Dont make me go CAPS LOCK on your old wrinkly diapered ass!

[Bernie Sanders]

Are you going APEy on me?