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I don't know about a DavidXXX.What strikes me most is basically turning a blind eye to somebody farming their way all the way to Conqueror and then banning them. There used to be a player who did this in live chat publicly and everybody knew he was doing it. I think his username was Davidxxx. He was also banned for this but only after he spent years trying to get his rank up, and everybody publicly knew what he was doing (correct me if I am wrong). When he finally I assume achieved his Conqueror rank, I was surprised the community turned on him so quickly. Last I saw (several years ago), he was a General or Field Marshall. I think the same thing probably happened to PaulatPeace - he spent a lot of effort giving to this community but the community turned on him and banned him for life? Again, correct me if I am wrong.
One thing about this comment. Many players on this site take their rank very seriously. If a banned member comes back and makes another account and wins a game he will get more points than he would if his actual rank from his previous account were used. In other words his skill would not be reflected properly by the lower rank of a new account.Aba wrote:So, it got me to thinking, what is so bad about the fact that somebody was banned and tried to make a new account to come back and play games with their friends? Especially a Conqueror, someone who cares a great deal for the game.

riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
You could say the same about someone who is already pretty good at playing Risk and then opens their first account on here. It won't take many games to reach a score that's closer to their real skill/gamesmanship level, and the difference in the number of points they take off any single opponent on their way up really won't be that big.Evil Semp wrote:In other words their skill would not be reflected properly by the lower rank of a new account.


Very well said.mrswdk wrote:You could say the same about someone who is already pretty good at playing Risk and then opens their first account on here. It won't take many games to reach a score that's closer to their real skill/gamesmanship level, and the difference in the number of points they take off any single opponent on their way up really won't be that big.Evil Semp wrote:In other words their skill would not be reflected properly by the lower rank of a new account.
Personally I think the people who deliberately ditch points in order to slingshot themselves up the most improved board the following month have a way more detrimental effect on the point system than someone making a new account.
Since you’re a volunteer I’ll go into a little more detail than I would otherwise.Keefie wrote:Aba, using PaP as an example I can confirm that many steps were taken before the decision to perma ban. Perma banning really is a last resort and thankfully is a used very rarely and only for very good reasons.

If most ways are already covered by the rule why do we gain by removing the "unwritten" part ?Aba wrote:Well, there are only so many ways to abuse this simple game and most are covered in the rules.
But we could make the rules more specific, so people are not making biased decisions and accusations against one another.
Rules can always be updated, but as it stands they’re pretty ambiguous and the people who police them aren’t.
The discussion wasn't about new players. It was about a former members of CC creating a new account. Addressing a new player who knows how to play Risk. Without the ability to know how well they know the game they have to start somewhere.mrswdk wrote:You could say the same about someone who is already pretty good at playing Risk and then opens their first account on here. It won't take many games to reach a score that's closer to their real skill/gamesmanship level, and the difference in the number of points they take off any single opponent on their way up really won't be that big.Evil Semp wrote:In other words their skill would not be reflected properly by the lower rank of a new account.
Personally I think the people who deliberately ditch points in order to slingshot themselves up the most improved board the following month have a way more detrimental effect on the point system than someone making a new account.

The fact that we have people opening false cases, arguing over what is and isn’t cheating, getting into heated arguments, evolving into an unwelcoming atmosphere, and mods complaining that their jobs are difficult shows a need for change.Donelladan wrote:If most ways are already covered by the rule why do we gain by removing the "unwritten" part ?Aba wrote:Well, there are only so many ways to abuse this simple game and most are covered in the rules.
But we could make the rules more specific, so people are not making biased decisions and accusations against one another.
Rules can always be updated, but as it stands they’re pretty ambiguous and the people who police them aren’t.
Also, If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Current system is working pretty fine, since we're catching the cheaters.


The effect on other players' point loss is the same: minimal.Evil Semp wrote:The discussion wasn't about new players. It was about a former members of CC creating a new account. Addressing a new player who knows how to play Risk. Without the ability to know how well they know the game they have to start somewhere.mrswdk wrote:You could say the same about someone who is already pretty good at playing Risk and then opens their first account on here. It won't take many games to reach a score that's closer to their real skill/gamesmanship level, and the difference in the number of points they take off any single opponent on their way up really won't be that big.Evil Semp wrote:In other words their skill would not be reflected properly by the lower rank of a new account.
Personally I think the people who deliberately ditch points in order to slingshot themselves up the most improved board the following month have a way more detrimental effect on the point system than someone making a new account.
Don't you have to be good at a map to use it for farming?riskllama wrote:i'm still using the "old style" method : farming my hapless victims on Promontory Summit....