really? comon CC...

[Natewolfman]

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seriously? wtf... he was very right, we have clans for women only, for only christiens... for only under 18, so why not one for whites only? I see no difference here, White VS Black and Men VS Women? are white and black so different that it would be a horrible sin to disinclude a certain group? what about a clan for "only those from great britin" or "only aussie players" if anything like that shows up we should just protest for discrimination...

I belive that deep down the KKK is an evil organization, but they still have a right to there meetings. people give power to things like racism... and its not the racists! its the people that take offense to everything, but honestly, if you dont allow something like that to try, you might as well not alow the jesus freaks... oh and forget about that athiest clan, thats offensive... and just because im alittle too old i cant be in 18 and under? thats agest... the only difference is that some people consider race a more touchy subject, but only those who truely belive that it is a touchy subject give such things power

NOTE: I am a White, 19 year old middle income citizen, My girlfriend of almost 2 years is black, so dont think that i speak out of racisum, for i speak only out of what i visualize.

Perhaps its not the same in other countries but in the USA its VERY much a sensitive place, its "police person" "people at work" "lawperson" someone once told me that people complained because "Calling it a 'black hole' is racist"

There was a day and age when "Oh i see a lady on the side of the road with her car broken down, i will be a good guy and lend a hand" but now, if i see a woman like that i wont stop unless they are flagging me down... reason? 20% of the time they will say "Oh, thank you for the help" the other 80% NOT an exageration, will go on a "Oh because im a woman i need help?" rant... today society is messed up, everything must be perfectly politically correct, we cant offend ANYONE!...

CC, you can do better then this... Now i would never join or look to join a "Whites only" clan, because i dont see color, so i dont belive in it, but you need to allow this, its all or nothing, you can disclude some but allow others...

[AndyDufresne]

Believe it or not, we don't have too many rules when it comes to Usergroups. We need a Name, a Leader, a concise Description, and at least 9 additional members that are Active on the Scoreboard.

In addition to that standard though, we will not endorse any usergroups that may actively support bigotry of any kind. The Forum Guidelines are pretty clear: No Gambling, No Bigotry, No Pornography, No Trolling.

If you'd like to create your own such usergroup, CC is not the place to look for creation and hosting.


--Andy

[t-o-m]

"Calling it a 'black hole' is racist"

In england you're not allowed to call a black board a black board, it must be a chalk board. But people can still call a white board a white board.
meh...

[cena-rules]

"Calling it a 'black hole' is racist"

In england you're not allowed to call a black board a black board, it must be a chalk board. But people can still call a white board a white board.
meh...

It is a blackboard and always will be

f*ck POLITICAL COORECTNESS

[Natewolfman]

Believe it or not, we don't have too many rules when it comes to Usergroups. We need a Name, a Leader, a concise Description, and at least 9 additional members that are Active on the Scoreboard.

In addition to that standard though, we will not endorse any usergroups that may actively support bigotry of any kind. The Forum Guidelines are pretty clear: No Gambling, No Bigotry, No Pornography, No Trolling.

If you'd like to create your own such usergroup, CC is not the place to look for creation and hosting.


--Andy

oh i understand andy, no worries there, but whos to say it would be bigotry? how would making a clan and saying "whites only" be different from saying "Christians only"?

I agree 100%, no bigotry, but denying something cuz it *might* be offensive?

[Optimus Prime]

Believe it or not, we don't have too many rules when it comes to Usergroups. We need a Name, a Leader, a concise Description, and at least 9 additional members that are Active on the Scoreboard.

In addition to that standard though, we will not endorse any usergroups that may actively support bigotry of any kind. The Forum Guidelines are pretty clear: No Gambling, No Bigotry, No Pornography, No Trolling.

If you'd like to create your own such usergroup, CC is not the place to look for creation and hosting.


--Andy

oh i understand andy, no worries there, but whos to say it would be bigotry? how would making a clan and saying "whites only" be different from saying "Christians only"?

I agree 100%, no bigotry, but denying something cuz it *might* be offensive?

I do believe taking the past behavior of the intended creator of the group gives a pretty good idea of the overlying intent that the group was going to have. It's no secret that firth4eva is known to be inflammatory and looking for attention by pushing the boundaries all the time.

That being said, I don't think that was necessarily the case, I think there just isn't a good enough reason to let someone flirt with the "line" so-to-speak. A group for all women or all men, or all Irish is an entirely different situation.

[foregone]

At the risk of being an overly sensitive person, I think theres quite a distinction. Firstly, theres a distinction between differentiation and discrimination. And, maybe it's because of my location but I think race is an incredibly sensitive topic and generally "clubs" which exclude based on race tend to be based on bigotry to start out with.

I've got to go with CC's call on this one. Although I've got to say the X'ing out of the word "white" seems a little over the top?

[wacicha]

Dang so much to say. But can not must hold back. As A player, everything I say will be taken as a mod. As a mod everything I say will be taken as a player.

But Raised in a racist environment as I was, I tend to be harsher on anything slightly Racist. I know not necessarily correct but there you go.

[Ryall55]

I agree, you cant say anything without having to be worried about PC.

The was a programme about it.

There was 1 asian, 1 white guy.

The white guy could get no help for anything and couldnt get through a queue quicker by saying he needs to be really quick.

The asian guy could get as much help as he wanted and got through the queue in seconds saying he needs to be quick otherwise he will be late for the mosque prayer.

How fair is this, so no discrimation allowed on CC, so anythng discrimination of any sort should be banned I.e CHRISTIANS ONLY CLAN.

And about the KKK i know they have some evil and awful beliefs but its just another belief like islam or christianty just with further beliefs.

[Natewolfman]

At the risk of being an overly sensitive person, I think theres quite a distinction. Firstly, theres a distinction between differentiation and discrimination. And, maybe it's because of my location but I think race is an incredibly sensitive topic and generally "clubs" which exclude based on race tend to be based on bigotry to start out with.

I've got to go with CC's call on this one. Although I've got to say the X'ing out of the word "white" seems a little over the top?

no, its not just your area... its my area, and pretty much the entire USA :S and yes there is a difference between differentiation and discrimination i understand this completely, but thats why i think CC should allow it, race is such a sensitive topic that you cant help but be worried at all times ya know? id like CC to be absent of that and really it means one of two things... dont allow anything thats possibly offensive, or allow all.

Prime - lol, i honestly dont know much about firth or his exploitations, if his character was mostly behind this then i can see why, but if this was just your average member...

[Bones2484]

"Calling it a 'black hole' is racist"

Creating racism for the sake of racism is fun.

That article was from this weekend. Only in Texas, right?

[AndyDufresne]

Firth4eva's past history was most certainly taken into account. I know he's got a long list of warnings and various forum bans.


--Andy

[Ryall55]

ITS A BLACK HOLE, because it bloody black coloured no racism ffs.

[Natewolfman]

Firth4eva's past history was most certainly taken into account. I know he's got a long list of warnings and various forum bans.


--Andy

like i said i dont know much about firths history this is me talking as an average member about an (assumed) average member. The general point still stands, but if you take past historys into account the decision was likelly a good one

[Ryall55]

Also PAKI has become a short term of Pakistan
BRIT has become a short term of Britain

but if you say both in public i wonder which one would get u into trouble

[AndyDufresne]

like i said i dont know much about firths history this is me talking as an average member about an (assumed) average member. The general point still stands, but if you take past historys into account the decision was likelly a good one

We try not to hinder the Average user too much...we've got a lot of respect for our members, as the majority of them are upstanding community members.

But we will take measures to prevent known troublemakers from causing any more.


--Andy

[Ryall55]

So your saying, it wouldnt be bad if i opened up this clan, having no prior abouse reports or anything

[SlayerQC]

ITS A BLACK HOLE, because it bloody black coloured no racism ffs.

Agreed.
Besides, black people arent black, they are brown. So, is UPS racist?
Im a whitey, if my teeth were as white as my face, my teeth would be gross........
Get your colors straight people!

jeee.

[azezzo]

simply put I dont feel that C.C. should have a policy of censorship in place.

lock a thread fine.
put it in flame wars, fine.
but dont censor threads.

[azezzo]

So your saying, it wouldnt be bad if i opened up this clan, having no prior abouse reports or anything

the answer to this is NO!

[Kemmler]

I believe making a whites only clan is racist.#

There a re Christian groups which is your choice to bee acertain religion. However, you cannot choose which colour you are and everyone is equal no matter what colour you are so it is unfair to exclude black people from that. What do white people have in common apart from their colour anyway?

[mibi]

There is so much thinly veiled racism in this thread its hilarious.

[Dangerous-Die]

i get MAD that there are the MOBO awards

If there were MOWO awards there would be uproar.

Face it - if your a white middle class tax paying citizen of any western world you face the most severe discrimination possible!!

Tis the modern world!!

[Bones2484]

Face it - if youre a white male middle class tax paying citizen of any western world you face the most severe discrimination possible!

Fixed for ya!

[jbrettlip]

I believe making a whites only clan is racist.#

There a re Christian groups which is your choice to bee acertain religion. However, you cannot choose which colour you are and everyone is equal no matter what colour you are so it is unfair to exclude black people from that. What do white people have in common apart from their colour anyway?

None of us can dance.