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More then likely this will result in a WARNING for both parties.Game 5071893 Chat wrote: 2009-06-12 15:38:28 - sweetypie526: red i will give u the game if u let me just so green dont win
2009-06-12 15:40:08 - sweetypie526: i had rather see the underdog win
2009-06-12 15:40:26 - sweetypie526: red tell do u want the points
2009-06-12 15:41:50 - sweetypie526: red do u want the points?
2009-06-12 15:44:51 - sweetypie526: red i need you 2 respond
2009-06-12 15:45:40 - Lloyd Braun: do what you wanna do blue
2009-06-12 15:53:40 - sweetypie526: green all i have is on u
2009-06-12 15:53:59 - sweetypie526: red already has the game i made sure of that

Actually, both blue and red could be punished in this case, because of that "or deliberately benefiting from thrown games"Unwritten Rules
Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new members.
You say you have nothing against homosexuals, and yet you use the term "gay" as a pejorative. Your actions speak far louder than your words, my friend.dysonsphere wrote:Accused is me
I did it
Sweetpea is a gay coward.
Flog me....
He gave the game away, he is a coward, he most likely chews sword.
I have nothing against homosexuals... just cowards.
You don't see how using homophobic comments as insults is bigoted?Artimis wrote: Before the usual suspects leap in and scream homophobic bigot, it seems to me that the word 'gay' was used as an insult in trash talk rather than an expression of homophobia.
I guess my ego is more injury resistant than most others. No, I see the use of this term as an insult, not an expression of aggressive homophobia. Maybe he should have substituted fucking for gay? Would that satisfy your politically correct sensibilities?Timminz wrote:You don't see how using homophobic comments as insults is bigoted?Artimis wrote: Before the usual suspects leap in and scream homophobic bigot, it seems to me that the word 'gay' was used as an insult in trash talk rather than an expression of homophobia.
Right, but wanker, cunt, prick, and all those other insults are not synonymous with a group of people. They're simply insults.Artimis wrote:I guess my ego is more injury resistant than most others. No, I see the use of this term as an insult, not an expression of aggressive homophobia. Maybe he should have substituted fucking for gay? Would that satisfy your politically correct sensibilities?Timminz wrote:You don't see how using homophobic comments as insults is bigoted?Artimis wrote: Before the usual suspects leap in and scream homophobic bigot, it seems to me that the word 'gay' was used as an insult in trash talk rather than an expression of homophobia.
On a a personal note, I frequently refer to players who annoy me as wankers, cunts and pricks and all sorts of other derogatory and vulgar terms. I'm sure someone with an axe to grind is bound to leap on one of my posts or chat comments any day now, it's just a matter of time(and the mentality of the fool who tries it).
*ding* *ding*... schools in... thank you timminz for explaining this so clearly... per the new guidelines, at the least he'll get a formal warning... i love the new tools these guys have to combat bigotry and hatred on CC...-0Timminz wrote:Right, but wanker, cunt, prick, and all those other insults are not synonymous with a group of people. They're simply insults.
Using "gay" as a derogatory term is similar to saying you got "jewed". Using a term that describes a specific group (like gays, or Jews) while implying something negative, is bigoted, and quite unnecessary when there are so many other colourful insults you can use without being politically correct.

By that reasoning we can include; Dipshits, Fools, Idiots, Morons, Retards, Spastics and Thickos. All of which are generic negative terms for a group of individuals with low intellect. This could be considered bigoted against the mentally feeble under a strict interpretation of the new guidelines.Timminz wrote:Using "gay" as a derogatory term is similar to saying you got "jewed". Using a term that describes a specific group (like gays, or Jews) while implying something negative, is bigoted, and quite unnecessary when there are so many other colourful insults you can use without being politically correct.
The difference is that no one self-identifies, as dipshits, fools, morons, retards, spastics, or thickos.Artimis wrote:By that reasoning we can include; Dipshits, Fools, Idiots, Morons, Retards, Spastics and Thickos. All of which are generic negative terms for a group of individuals with low intellect. This could be considered bigoted against the mentally feeble under a strict interpretation of the new guidelines.Timminz wrote:Using "gay" as a derogatory term is similar to saying you got "jewed". Using a term that describes a specific group (like gays, or Jews) while implying something negative, is bigoted, and quite unnecessary when there are so many other colourful insults you can use without being politically correct.
How would you know?Timminz wrote:The difference is that no one self-identifies, as dipshits, fools, morons, retards, spastics, or thickos.
Now you're simply being obtuse.Artimis wrote:How would you know?Timminz wrote:The difference is that no one self-identifies, as dipshits, fools, morons, retards, spastics, or thickos.
I understand it, I just disagree. So to save further thread space and prevent the near certain elongation of this thread, I propose that we simply agree to disagree on this point.Timminz wrote:Now you're simply being obtuse.
Do you honestly not understand what I've been saying?
You'll likely want to note the official stance.Artimis wrote:I understand it, I just disagree. So to save further thread space and prevent the near certain elongation of this thread, I propose that we simply agree to disagree on this point.Timminz wrote:Now you're simply being obtuse.
Do you honestly not understand what I've been saying?
I wasn't being bigotted, the guy is a coward and I used the first free flowing insult I could think of.Artimis wrote:By that reasoning we can include; Dipshits, Fools, Idiots, Morons, Retards, Spastics and Thickos. All of which are generic negative terms for a group of individuals with low intellect. This could be considered bigoted against the mentally feeble under a strict interpretation of the new guidelines.Timminz wrote:Using "gay" as a derogatory term is similar to saying you got "jewed". Using a term that describes a specific group (like gays, or Jews) while implying something negative, is bigoted, and quite unnecessary when there are so many other colourful insults you can use without being politically correct.
Either/or suits me, I've no objection to you using any of the above to lambaste SweatPea, he's earned it IMHO.dysonsphere wrote:I wasn't being bigotted, the guy is a coward and I used the first free flowing insult I could think of.
If it makes you feel better he is a cowardly spasticated c*nt instead!
aaaaand it just so happened that the first free flowing insult you could muster was bigoted... oh, i get it now...dysonsphere wrote:I wasn't being bigotted, the guy is a coward and I used the first free flowing insult I could think of.

Because their IQs would be TOO low to self-identify as dipshits, fools, morons, retards or thickosTimminz wrote:The difference is that no one self-identifies, as dipshits, fools, morons, retards, spastics, or thickos.Artimis wrote:By that reasoning we can include; Dipshits, Fools, Idiots, Morons, Retards, Spastics and Thickos. All of which are generic negative terms for a group of individuals with low intellect. This could be considered bigoted against the mentally feeble under a strict interpretation of the new guidelines.Timminz wrote:Using "gay" as a derogatory term is similar to saying you got "jewed". Using a term that describes a specific group (like gays, or Jews) while implying something negative, is bigoted, and quite unnecessary when there are so many other colourful insults you can use without being politically correct.
Its' use within "trash talk" does not in any way excuse it from ALSO being homophobic. You're certainly right about the different definitions of "gay" and yet,it's painfully clear which one was in use in this particular case.Artimis wrote:Hilarious!![]()
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Amusement aside, Dyson, you do realise that one of the definites of 'gay' is bright and happy? Although upon closer inspection of SweetPea's game play I think we can scratch the bright part, he made up for his lack of brightness with an over-abundance of happiness! Before the usual suspects leap in and scream homophobic bigot, it seems to me that the word 'gay' was used as an insult in trash talk rather than an expression of homophobia.
I'm not disputing that. It is, however, irrelevant to MY point.Artimis wrote:As 4myGod has already stated, this is a clear cut case of a thrown game.
In fact, it would no longer be considered homophobic. It certainly would be considered vulgar, but vulgar is far less offensive than homophobic.Artimis wrote:I guess my ego is more injury resistant than most others. No, I see the use of this term as an insult, not an expression of aggressive homophobia. Maybe he should have substituted fucking for gay? Would that satisfy your politically correct sensibilities?Timminz wrote:You don't see how using homophobic comments as insults is bigoted?Artimis wrote: Before the usual suspects leap in and scream homophobic bigot, it seems to me that the word 'gay' was used as an insult in trash talk rather than an expression of homophobia.
In fairness, dysonsphere did admit that he should have used a different term. He made a mistake, but he's fessed up that it was a mistake and, I presume, will use "more imaginative and colorful insults" in the future. That works for me.owenshooter wrote:aaaaand it just so happened that the first free flowing insult you could muster was bigoted... oh, i get it now...dysonsphere wrote:I wasn't being bigotted, the guy is a coward and I used the first free flowing insult I could think of....-0
It is not homophobic at all. It is a reference to how male homosexuals are often inclinded to being too camp. My hairdresser is homosexual and to have him saying 'Wow look at your chest, you can so see you have been to the gym' etc before commenting on the girls outside being 'Just so achingly pretty' warrants wholly him being told he is a poor quality puff and no mistake. The point being using the term as an insult is a reference to a person's behaviour regardless of their sexual orientation.owenshooter wrote:aaaaand it just so happened that the first free flowing insult you could muster was bigoted... oh, i get it now...dysonsphere wrote:I wasn't being bigotted, the guy is a coward and I used the first free flowing insult I could think of....-0
2009-06-12 20:08:21 - sweetypie526: its not allowed in the military
2009-06-12 20:08:50 - dysonsphere: you wouldn't know the military from above the belt line