Good, basic, and bad comment rating system.

[TruePurple]

Concise description:

• You can vote with comment for each game as good, average or bad.
• Good and basic votes both have the same effect on your rating
• Clicking on a players name will have it further broken down into good /basic/bad categories of comment with percentages of each

Specifics:

• Your will have a percentage out of 100% equal to your total number of good or basic votes you have received in game.
• A example player profile might be Score (what would show next to the name) 90%
  In the profile 51% good 39% average 10% bad.
• The comments will be listed as such, so when you click on the 39% average in the profile, you will see all the comments that were listed with that rating.
• You would still be able to post a reply to other peoples comments on you, like now.
• A page with a link from the rating page that could be a guide for what to focus on in their comments.

Alternative:

• You could have categories of cheater/terrible and excellent as well. This would have no effect on your rating percentage as excellent rating would go with good and average and terrible would go with bad for the purposes of rating. It would just mean further breakdown when you click on the profile.

The problem with the current rating system is :

• That people feel like they must leave extreme ratings. Either 5's even if it was a average game, or 1's, even if it wasn't that bad, out of spit and to maximize the effect on that persons rating. Which leaves us with very inaccurate ratings.
• Without the ability to leave comments, the ratings don't tell us what we need to be aware of, those one word codes we can add 4 of, don't really cut it.

This fixes those issues by :

• Since good and average have the same impact on overall rating, one can feel much more free to leave either for a game. By having them broken down further in profile, it makes making a good verses average rating still matter.
• Being able to leave comments means you can better know what happened with those ratings
• By having the comments broken down by type, we can see a sampling of the worst , average and best of a person from others perspective, just by a click.

[blakebowling]

This is just like the old commenting system that the rating system replaced. It most likely will not be coming back.

[TruePurple]

Oh? That is before my time, why was it replaced, do you know?

[blakebowling]

Oh? That is before my time, why was it replaced, do you know?

Abuse among other things.

[TruePurple]

Please specify, what kind of abuse? What other things?

[The Neon Peon]

Basically, mods had to take up too much time moderating feedback.

[TruePurple]

You mean leaving nasty feedback? Maybe there's a way to make it more self regulating. For example, where players can mark feedback as inappropriately nasty, then if X number of other unique players also mark said feedback as inappropriate, the feedback is erased automatically. There could be a special forum just for other players to consider a feedback. The rating would remain though. Perhaps someone could mark a feedback as ok too, which would cancel out 1 vote of inappropriate.

Maybe there could be a delay in the system where the feedback is hidden at first, rather then erased. That way if a player is decided to be a multi, then any marks they make on others comments would be removed and the comment could show again. (Or the feedback system itself could check for signs of multi by comparing IPs)

Maybe you can get 1 negative vote and 1 positive/cancel vote per game you finish. If you get X number of negative votes, the comment is hidden and someone has to click "see comment marked as possibly inappropriate" to see it. X more number of negative votes and its just hidden under "inappropriate comment", only seeable by mods who may want to look at it if checking out someone who consistantly makes such comments.

Finally, maybe players who habitually make bad comments, (if enough of other comments by them get marked, or a mod decides so) they can no longer leave comments, or mark others comments.

[Georgerx7di]

Hay, how about: positive, neutral, or negative. And the could show next to your name, the number of positive vs. negative feedbacks you get. That would be awesome.

[blakebowling]

Hay, how about: positive, neutral, or negative. And the could show next to your name, the number of positive vs. negative feedbacks you get. That would be awesome.

I hope you're being sarcastic.

[frankiebee]

Hay, how about: positive, neutral, or negative. And the could show next to your name, the number of positive vs. negative feedbacks you get. That would be awesome.

Sounds familiar...sounds great !

[TruePurple]

That suggestion is not nearly as good george, please use your own thread to make such suggestions.

[paulk]

Hay, how about: positive, neutral, or negative. And the could show next to your name, the number of positive vs. negative feedbacks you get. That would be awesome.

I actually would prefer this, with neutral as standard. Good idea.
Why? Because in 98% of the cases I don't care about giving any feedback. I only do it if I think the person has played/acted exceptionally good or bad.

[blakebowling]

Hay, how about: positive, neutral, or negative. And the could show next to your name, the number of positive vs. negative feedbacks you get. That would be awesome.

I actually would prefer this, with neutral as standard. Good idea.
Why? Because in 98% of the cases I don't care about giving any feedback. I only do it if I think the person has played/acted exceptionally good or bad.

You realize that was a joke? That was the EXACT feedback system that got removed because it was taking up too much staff time (see my and neon's posts above)

[paulk]

I don't see why it would take any staff time at all.

[Tupence]

I don't see why it would take any staff time at all.

As blakebowling said, too much time was spent moderating the feedback - I hear it was very easy to abuse. For example, many players become abusive in the game chat when they're not happy with how someone is playing. Imagine if they could post similar comments in your "rating", and therefore have it attached to your profile; it could get pretty ridiculous.

[owenshooter]

Imagine if they could post similar comments in your "rating", and therefore have it attached to your profile; it could get pretty ridiculous.

yeah, it could get out of control... here is a nice example of a feedback section gone awry...

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... deblue1018

anyway, the old system was abused and required far too much moderation. did i prefer it? yes.
would i like it back? yes. do i think it will ever come back? no...-0

[paulk]

I thought we were talking about a commenting system with like 3 stars instead of 5.

Where 2 stars were default.

I don't see where anyone would moderate anything.

[Tupence]

I thought we were talking about a commenting system with like 3 stars instead of 5.

Where 2 stars were default.

I don't see where anyone would moderate anything.

This was included in the original post:

Being able to leave comments means you can better know what happened with those ratings

I think a 3-star system would just tell us less than the 5-star system, which people already feel doesn't say enough.

[paulk]

so it would be like a combo of the current 5 star system and the old comments system...
I still don't see where you would have to have moderators coming in changing stuff.
If someone uses profane language in the comments, so what? As long as you can answer.

Please don't let this site be one of those politically correct places where you can't even say "fart" without being censored...

[Tupence]

so it would be like a combo of the current 5 star system and the old comments system...
I still don't see where you would have to have moderators coming in changing stuff.
If someone uses profane language in the comments, so what? As long as you can answer.

Please don't let this site be one of those politically correct places where you can't even say "fart" without being censored...

It certainly wouldn't become one of those places, however the Community Guidelines are already in place for the forums and all chatting, and I'm sure you'd agree that sometimes a Moderator or Admin has to step in to stop things getting out of control.

Leaving comments could easily escalate from mildly insulting comments, which most players would take on the chin, to full-blown abuse and bigotry.

[blakebowling]

The only way I would support this is if the comments for the player would be self moderated (The star ratings would stay, but people would be able to delete comments off their profile)

[TruePurple]

Guys, please read further down the thread on the first page, I came up with some ideas of self regulation so that mods can not mostly not worry about it. When I have time I will put them in their own thread better organized, formatted and fixed up with links from here.

yeah, it could get out of control... here is a nice example of a feedback section gone awry...

Hmm, glancing down a couple pages, it mostly seems fine.

3 star system

A key part of this system/idea is that neutral "average rating" would not reduce ones rating any, and in fact increase it. I can see dropping the 'increase it', so it just has no effect. But its crucial that it not reduce someones rating (assuming they have alot of max ratings)

The reason for this is, because overall judgement of people here don't allow for average rating. They think its actually a bad rating. Somehow 3 stars here have become a negative rating for too many people. So too few use it.

Without average having impact on the overall rating, that problem should be fixed. Yet one can see the number of each just by looking into the profile, so the information of average and so forth is still there. Plus the information from the self regulated comment system should allow for more accurate, more informative, ratings. And because the comments are listed by type, it makes looking through them easier.

[Emiliesman]

If i'm writing this in the wrong place i'm sorry but it's late and i'm tired... I like the rating system as it is now, but how about adding the additional category of 'polite' to the existing ones? There is already the option of 'rude' I just think it would give more options to the description of an opponent if polite were included as well.