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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby TaCktiX on Sun May 18, 2008 8:35 pm

No, Waterloo is more complex than Bamboo Jack, by far.
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby Kaplowitz on Sun May 18, 2008 8:38 pm

TaCktiX wrote:No, Waterloo is more complex than Bamboo Jack, by far.

I havent played Jack, but i didnt think Waterloo was that hard. Ive played it twice- im 1-1
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby DiM on Sun May 18, 2008 8:53 pm

hulmey wrote:
DiM wrote:my maps aren't complex and neither are carinswk's. if you have an average iq and you read the legend then no map on CC will pose a problem. ;)


im unsure how you view the world DIM!! Id love to be you for a day and see how you tick tock (if you do at all).

Because i was wondering if you agree that waterloo is more complex than classic. If the answer is yes than it would be a complex map. It would hardly be a map that you play speed on for the first time!!



let me put it like this:

i think all maps are EASY to understand but COMPLEX to master.

a game on waterloo versus weak opponents is a walk in the park while a doodle earth game versus skilled ones can be harder then brain surgery.
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby hulmey on Sun May 18, 2008 9:49 pm

DiM wrote:
hulmey wrote:
DiM wrote:my maps aren't complex and neither are carinswk's. if you have an average iq and you read the legend then no map on CC will pose a problem. ;)


im unsure how you view the world DIM!! Id love to be you for a day and see how you tick tock (if you do at all).

Because i was wondering if you agree that waterloo is more complex than classic. If the answer is yes than it would be a complex map. It would hardly be a map that you play speed on for the first time!!



let me put it like this:

i think all maps are EASY to understand but COMPLEX to master.

a game on waterloo versus weak opponents is a walk in the park while a doodle earth game versus skilled ones can be harder then brain surgery.

there is no skill involved in doodle earth!! its pure luck and no stragey
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby DiM on Sun May 18, 2008 10:03 pm

hulmey wrote:
DiM wrote:
hulmey wrote:
DiM wrote:my maps aren't complex and neither are carinswk's. if you have an average iq and you read the legend then no map on CC will pose a problem. ;)


im unsure how you view the world DIM!! Id love to be you for a day and see how you tick tock (if you do at all).

Because i was wondering if you agree that waterloo is more complex than classic. If the answer is yes than it would be a complex map. It would hardly be a map that you play speed on for the first time!!



let me put it like this:

i think all maps are EASY to understand but COMPLEX to master.

a game on waterloo versus weak opponents is a walk in the park while a doodle earth game versus skilled ones can be harder then brain surgery.

there is no skill involved in doodle earth!! its pure luck and no stragey



actually there is under certain conditions.
for example 8p no cards assassin sequential adjacent fog vs players that know how to play. very interesting setup.
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby hulmey on Mon May 19, 2008 2:27 am

DiM wrote:
hulmey wrote:
DiM wrote:
hulmey wrote:
DiM wrote:my maps aren't complex and neither are carinswk's. if you have an average iq and you read the legend then no map on CC will pose a problem. ;)


im unsure how you view the world DIM!! Id love to be you for a day and see how you tick tock (if you do at all).

Because i was wondering if you agree that waterloo is more complex than classic. If the answer is yes than it would be a complex map. It would hardly be a map that you play speed on for the first time!!



let me put it like this:

i think all maps are EASY to understand but COMPLEX to master.

a game on waterloo versus weak opponents is a walk in the park while a doodle earth game versus skilled ones can be harder then brain surgery.

there is no skill involved in doodle earth!! its pure luck and no stragey



actually there is under certain conditions.
for example 8p no cards assassin sequential adjacent fog vs players that know how to play. very interesting setup.


interesting maybe but theres no skill involved and hardly enough room to egt a card without killing some1
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby DiM on Mon May 19, 2008 7:50 am

why get a card if the game is no cards???

trust me it is very very complex especially if there is chat because you are trying to guess each person's target. it's not a very spectacular game as the attacks will be very rare but it is complex enough to ensure that even the slightest mistake will be punished.
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby yeti_c on Mon May 19, 2008 8:11 am

Even if there are cards - then that's part of the game...

Taking a card without weakening your opponent for someone to be able to kill them.

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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby DiM on Mon May 19, 2008 8:36 am

yeti_c wrote:Even if there are cards - then that's part of the game...

Taking a card without weakening your opponent for someone to be able to kill them.

C.



card add an unwanted luck factor in doodle games. get a mixed set from the first 3 cards and you win ;)
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby RjBeals on Mon May 19, 2008 8:43 am

you guys want to start an 8 player Doodle game like DiM mentioned above.. Let's see how we do...
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby bryguy on Mon May 19, 2008 10:51 am

RjBeals wrote:you guys want to start an 8 player Doodle game like DiM mentioned above.. Let's see how we do...


id join just in case i might accidentally win :lol:

and if we do, lets have me the lowest rank! then i could get a ton of points!
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby RjBeals on Mon May 19, 2008 10:55 am

i think i'm the lowest rank around here. MMmwha ha ha ha
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby bryguy on Mon May 19, 2008 10:58 am

RjBeals wrote:i think i'm the lowest rank around here. MMmwha ha ha ha


aww shucks, guess u cant join then ;)


eh ive decided that im gonna make a game like that :mrgreen: ill post the game number/password here, and then we can see if its skill or luck
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby Optimus Prime on Mon May 19, 2008 11:00 am

Standard gameplay with high visual appeal......

That's why RjBeals is my favorite mapmaker hands down.
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby bryguy on Mon May 19, 2008 11:16 am

2471213, pw: doodle

freestyle: 2471215, pw: doodle
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby Lanceyboyuk on Wed May 21, 2008 6:17 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:Standard gameplay with high visual appeal......

That's why RjBeals is my favorite mapmaker hands down.


Have to agree with you optimus. half of the new maps are just to over complicated. new worlds and texan wars are the only ones i see me playing. The new maps have their place but i cant see them becoming popular as they are just to complicated to play give me a doodle earth any day of the week. :geek:
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby chapcrap on Wed May 21, 2008 7:45 pm

I definitley like the classic style, but mixing it up a bit is always good for me. I like come complication, but when you start needing a PhD to figure stuff out, I mark that map off my list.
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby Hatchman on Thu May 22, 2008 5:34 am

Straightforward all the way (with the exception of Dustbowl, which is just pretty as hell). The map legend should list nothing more than bonuses and impassable obstacles (IMHO).
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby hulmey on Fri May 23, 2008 3:50 am

hatchman wrote:Straightforward all the way (with the exception of Dustbowl, which is just pretty as hell). The map legend should list nothing more than bonuses and impassable obstacles (IMHO).


Love New Worlds and i tried qwert's new map and its complex, but once you get the hang of it :shock:
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby killmanic on Fri May 23, 2008 4:11 am

The harder the map the better
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Re: Complex or Straightforward maps?

Postby seamusk on Fri May 23, 2008 10:04 am

I like unique maps for what its worth. And maps that don't rely too much on lucky dice (read as "Not Doodle Earth"). I like complexity but not necessarily abstract complexity (railroad maps for example just feel too abstract for me and boring - i like a little pretty). And waterloo is definitely more complex than bamboo jack. I love bamboo (and i'm damned good at it) but in essence it just a very detailed classic map.
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