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ESQuire/tabletalk [ka]

Postby evilweasel75 on Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:13 pm

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19778761

First i should say i really dont like to go to this extreme but i feel i have to because my when i review the sites fair play guidelines i am convinced this player is crossing the line every round.

My complaint is i am in a 3 way dubs match(link above),one of team 2's players,ESQuire started scolding team 1 that they were not doing enough to curb my teams advancement,team 3. From that point myself and ESQuire trade assaults every turn,which i was expecting and slowly losing. Im cool with that as it comes with the game.
The game turns heavily in team 2's favor as a result, i accept i lost the battle...however team 2's ESQuire continues coaching team 1 which i really dont consider fair play because Esquire is going as far as telling team 1 where to deploy,which route to take and esquire reveals his own success and also reveals he has moved out of the way. This is a fog game i should add so this information unfairly puts my team at a huge disadvantage trying to fight 2 teams. We (team 3) have the fewest territory count,one of us on the verge of elimination due to this form of table talk in a fog game.

Im not a nancy and have thick skin but im sure if i could please get a mod to go in the game link i provided and read the log that i might be right and this ESQuire player could be in the wrong.

If i was right i would like this player removed from the game or even myself at no cost of points to me.












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Re: ESQuire/tabletalk

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:27 am

What rule has he broken?
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Re: ESQuire/tabletalk

Postby ESQuire on Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:50 am

Evilweasel75, I see that you are new to the site, so I can see how this bothers you, but collaboration between teams in a 3+ team game is not only acceptable, but exceedingly common, just as if we were sitting around a board game at home. However, I do take issue with your misrepresentations of fact. You are certainly not as weak as you portray. Your team has been pulling more troops than either of the other 2 teams consistently (for more than 1 round). Just this current round: team 1 (14 troops), my team 2 (13 troops), your team 3 (19 troops). If team 1 and 2 did/do not work together, team 3 will win the game.
As for the fog-aspect, this would require more analysis and subtle inspection of who said what when under what knowledge. Team 1 was the first to suggest that team 2 go for the warden, even though team 1 could not see the warden. Team 1 had sufficient knowledge of the map and awareness of the logs to understand a main reason for team 3's big deploys was their possession of the warden. My further direction built on that knowledge that Team 1 already had. I did not reveal troop counts. If omniscient arbiters look through the logs, they will see. As it stands, team 3 is still too strong for warden to be breached.
Again, EvilWeasel, I understand that you may not like it when 2 weaker teams join forces to bring a 3rd team back to the pack, but that is a common and accepted part of the game on CC, and (I'd argue) a human characteristic in game-play worldwide.
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Re: ESQuire/tabletalk

Postby evilweasel75 on Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:31 am

My main argument is fog. I wont budge on that, theirs no point of fog if it can be brushed aside for ''coordination''. I didn't misrepresent nothing in my opinion,and the chat doesnt seem like coordination,it seems revengeful for some unknown offence.
Im not worried about being wrong in this case because i cant fault my own perception and if im told im wrong at least we newcomers will learn how far a team can go disregarding fog,in the situation you explain.
Thanks for your rebuttal, no hard feelings--i dont have really anything else to say about it. Be safe
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Re: ESQuire/tabletalk

Postby IcePack on Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:38 am

“Breaking fog” isn’t against the rules. Teams can reveal troop numbers (or lie about them) as they see fit as long as all jockeying / info is made public in chat and not on walls and PM’s. Teams can believe or not believe what they wish
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Re: ESQuire/tabletalk

Postby king achilles on Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:55 pm

IcePack wrote:“Breaking fog” isn’t against the rules. Teams can reveal troop numbers (or lie about them) as they see fit as long as all jockeying / info is made public in chat and not on walls and PM’s. Teams can believe or not believe what they wish


^ This. Feel free to put him on your Foe list and rate him accordingly as you see fit.
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