SoC 1v1 Ladder Challenge (CLOSED)

[ElricTheGreat]

mack and I just played the non-random for fun and then replaced with random play for the challenge. Gave us some extra play just for fun.

BTW..... Cap, it's good to see you on the ladder. Hope we have lots of challenges with each other.

Also... I'd just like to say that this is one of my favorite groups of people and I look forward to all the games here more than most others. I very much appreciate the work of Chuck and how he makes it all flow so smoothly for our enjoyment, as well as the behind the curtain efforts of mac, dhall.... And I appreciate all my opponents here for being such good players (I like a good challenge!) and sun nice, fun people. Long live The Ladder!

HEY !!!

Elric Pouts ......

[iAmCaffeine]

As I said in the PM to celliottii, I do not think the games made non-Random should count. If I'd chosen my home game against Streaker I would've won, no doubt. I chose random, got severely shafted and heyho, it's a loss for me. Why should other people benefit because they can't be arsed to read the rules?

[Streaker]

As I said in the PM to celliottii, I do not think the games made non-Random should count. If I'd chosen my home game against Streaker I would've won, no doubt. I chose random, got severely shafted and heyho, it's a loss for me. Why should other people benefit because they can't be arsed to read the rules?

While I don't agree that I would have lost those games (not with the rolls I had), why would you allow people to bypass the rules on the start of the ladder (or during any other point of the game)?
Charle had the balls/honour to make a new, random, game even though he had already virtually won the tiebreaker vs me. It's my opinion that all non-random games should be replayed to keep the start of this ladder honest.

[iAmCaffeine]

As I said in the PM to celliottii, I do not think the games made non-Random should count. If I'd chosen my home game against Streaker I would've won, no doubt. I chose random, got severely shafted and heyho, it's a loss for me. Why should other people benefit because they can't be arsed to read the rules?

While I don't agree that I would have lost those games (not with the rolls I had), why would you allow people to bypass the rules on the start of the ladder (or during any other point of the game)?
Charle had the balls/honour to make a new, random, game even though he had already virtually won the tiebreaker vs me. It's my opinion that all non-random games should be replayed to keep the start of this ladder honest.

Agreed. I only meant I would've won my home game if I had chosen the map and settings, not necessarily won the challenge. Regardless, it's an unfair advantage.

[celliottii]

Hey everyone,

I'm quite glad we are getting this out and discussing the "Random Map" rule (Rule #5). Please allow me to make a few comments here and let's see if we can put this to bed for the time being...

For those of you who have been with the Ladder since its conception, you know that we have tried several different things to make the Ladder not only fun and competitive, but as a training tool as well. That's what the Society of Cooks is all about...teaching players to become better.

Not all of the changes/evolutions/experiments/rules we've added in the past have worked out, but we gave them a fair shot. Other changes we have made worked out great.

The "Random Map" is one of these new changes. We need to give it a fair shot before we shoot it down.

Let's look back at the old way...where each player chose their own map and the third game was a random map. If each player always chose their favorite map and always won on said map, then the only way to decide the winner was to play the random map.

I've seen posts and have received PMs where a player says they would have won their match if they could have chosen their own map for their home game. What's the point in learning something new when you keep playing the same map over and over and over again? What's the point in having a "home map" when the match is decided in the random game?

No one likes changes...especially changes that affect a player's rank/points or throws off their "normal gameplay".

BUT...we will keep the "Random Map" rule for the time being. I will closely monitor this. If I feel it has disrupted the recreational value of the Ladder, then I will take my findings to my "Counsel", present my evidence, and we will vote on whether to keep, modify, or eliminate the rule all together.

Instead of penalizing NINE players for violating the "Random Map" rule, I chose to issue a "mulligan". No penalty and if the players choose to replay that map, that is up to them. So far, I've seen the players step up and re-create the invalid games using the Random map.

This rule (and the others) are all new. If I start throwing out "punishments" for someone violating a rule that was just recently added, then I would not be doing YOU the proper service by showing some grace and leniency. Please understand, this grace will not last. That "mulligan" was Ladder-wide.

Sorry, but here is where I do have to sound like a jerk. IF the "Random Map" rule does "survive" and you do not like it, then you have to make a choice. You can either live with it....or leave the Ladder. I will not cater to an individual's wishes or desires simply to keep that player on the Ladder. The Ladder is about a group a people, not the playing styles of an individual.

All I can say is give the "Random Map" rule a chance. Let's see what happens. You know that I will make any "course corrections" to keep this ship afloat.

Thank you.

Chuck
celliottii

[iAmCaffeine]

I'm not questioning the rule, just the mulligan. Oh well.

[torres44cm]

My only point is, everyone follow the new random rule, and not saying someone should be punished, but simply non-random games don't count, Those who didn't choose random, then they create new random maps for their respective matches, But as Ladder Director, you can do whatever you want with the rules. Sounds like some are making a big deal, what's so hard about having the players who started non random create new random maps, just saying

[celliottii]

My bad, guys....

I meant to add the following to that main post:

If a non-Random game is created, it will not count towards the Ladder match. The player receiving the invite should do the following:

1. Decline the invite.
2. Send a PM or wall post to the player sending the invite to let them know this, so they can re-create the game.

Thank you...

Chuck

[ElricTheGreat]

Elric still Pouts ...... no love shown ....



But still winning and advancing up the charts !!!!

Move me up Chuck!! I won 2-1

[celliottii]

Elric still Pouts ...... no love shown ....



But still winning and advancing up the charts !!!!

Move me up Chuck!! I won 2-1

Got you moved up...should I send over our local hooker to show you some love??? I hear her rates are reasonable...

[ElricTheGreat]

Elric still Pouts ...... no love shown ....



But still winning and advancing up the charts !!!!

Move me up Chuck!! I won 2-1

Got you moved up...should I send over our local hooker to show you some love??? I hear her rates are reasonable...

is she coming prepaid and bringing the wine and beer you promised?

[ElricTheGreat]

ganguscalm strap on your guns and come on down!!!!

Game 15887736
Game 15887737

[ganguscalm]

Re: SoC 1v1 Ladder Challenge - Here we go again
Sent: Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:13 pm
by ganguscalm

ElricTheGreat wrote:
ganguscalm strap on your guns and come on down!!!!

Game 15887736
Game 15887737


Elric , you best staple a few extra rhinestones to your K-Mart quality bell bottom jumpsuit and grab some extra guitar picks cuz ...
Elvis is still the King !
your challenge has been answered :
Game 15887778------------------------------------------------------------------uh huh huh---------------------------------------------------------------->>>

[celliottii]

ganguscalm strap on your guns and come on down!!!!

Game 15887736
Game 15887737

Got the challenge recorded...

and you want to check her for cooties...she was clean when she left here, but I heard she was heading to Streaker's house next...

[celliottii]

t4mcr53s2 has successfully challenged and beat me 2 to 1...points for his integrity in creating and playing one of those mulligan games.

Ladder is updated...

[MGSteve]

mack and I just played the non-random for fun and then replaced with random play for the challenge. Gave us some extra play just for fun.

BTW..... Cap, it's good to see you on the ladder. Hope we have lots of challenges with each other.

Also... I'd just like to say that this is one of my favorite groups of people and I look forward to all the games here more than most others. I very much appreciate the work of Chuck and how he makes it all flow so smoothly for our enjoyment, as well as the behind the curtain efforts of mac, dhall.... And I appreciate all my opponents here for being such good players (I like a good challenge!) and sun nice, fun people. Long live The Ladder!

HEY !!!

Elric Pouts ......

Ummm, what did I say here that hurt you, my good and dear friend? You know I respect and admire you and all you do. Could it be because I didn't include your name with mac and dhall? If so, be at ease. The line of periods is a substitute for et cetera, meaning and others, which means you of course.

[MGSteve]

Okay, now that I've soothed crybab... umm, I mean Elric's hurt feelings, let's get to business. As I said earlier, I mentioned the random thing to mack and he agreed to play the non-random for fun and made another one to count for the challenge. Boom! Easy peasy. Random games played for the challenge, non random games don't matter. I think everyone who failed to read the changes which Chuck posted in red to make it easy for us to find all the changes so we wouldn't have to try to pick them out of the rules while we read the whole list, should redo their non-random games or at the very least get a waiver for the can't play the same player twice in a row rule so they can redo their challenge with random games.

The third option is to just say we screwed up, let it go and get on with life and the ladder. And I do mean we because if your opponent didn't bother to read the changes that were posted in RED and gave you a non-random game and you accepted it, you both screwed up. So why not just... let it go?, he said in his most comforting, hypnotic voice. Life is beautiful and so are you, he continued in his hypnotically soothing voice. You love the ladder and want it to go on and leave all this silliness that doesn't matter at all behind you so you may go on to gain the #1 spot because you're a really great player who can do anything you set your mind to. I admire you and revel in your success.

And yes I will drop the silliness if everyone else does. I mean this particular silliness of course. No way I'll give up silliness for good!

[ElricTheGreat]

Steve ... ot's not waht you said ... :sob: :sob: ... :sniff:

but what you didn't .. :hickup: ... I can't go over this ... it is still too fresh for me ... too emotional ... :sniff:

[Streaker]

Both my current challenges are completed.
I'll have a look at the ladder when it is updated to catch my next victim.

[MGSteve]

Steve ... ot's not waht you said ... :sob: :sob: ... :sniff:

but what you didn't .. :hickup: ... I can't go over this ... it is still too fresh for me ... too emotional ... :sniff:

Ya know guy, vitamin D deficiency is a very common problem that leads to joint problems, bone density problems, depression and other mental disorders, etc. And face it dude, unless you're eatin mushrooms by the bucket, pale as you are, you got some major vit D problems. I'm taking 2 cholecalciferol tabs every day cause mine's so low and I love mushrooms. So get yer vit D tested today! You'll be glad you did! I am!

[ElricTheGreat]

Steve ... ot's not waht you said ... :sob: :sob: ... :sniff:

but what you didn't .. :hickup: ... I can't go over this ... it is still too fresh for me ... too emotional ... :sniff:

Ya know guy, vitamin D deficiency is a very common problem that leads to joint problems, bone density problems, depression and other mental disorders, etc. And face it dude, unless you're eatin mushrooms by the bucket, pale as you are, you got some major vit D problems. I'm taking 2 cholecalciferol tabs every day cause mine's so low and I love mushrooms. So get yer vit D tested today! You'll be glad you did! I am!

AAAhhhh ... is that all I have been missing ... wow ... feeling better already ...

I thnk they need to come up with more emotioncons so we can really epress ourselves

[MGSteve]

Yep. I'd like to see one that starts with chuckles, moves on into guffaws that increase until he pukes just to let someone know how laughably ridiculous their statement or action was. That and one wearing a hangman's noose and jumping off a chair.

[Streaker]

Both my current challenges are completed.
I'll have a look at the ladder when it is updated to catch my next victim.

To be clear, I won both matches (2-1 vs Charle) and (3-0 vs caf).

Thx

[celliottii]

Both my current challenges are completed.
I'll have a look at the ladder when it is updated to catch my next victim.

To be clear, I won both matches (2-1 vs Charle) and (3-0 vs caf).

Thx

Thank you...I'll get the Ladder updated in about 3 minutes...

[General Roy]

I would like to challenge ben.cleuch to the following games:

Game 15899006
Game 15899009

By the way, I tried to send off a challenge to gsolo19654, but was told that he doesn't exist as a member of CC.

Roy