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Re: More random options

Postby lozzini on Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:47 pm

This has been suggested quite a few times, and i believe it is on lack's to do list and after the random map add on, there was talk of more random options to be added. so rather than suggesting this again why not use the search feature and add your weight to the pre-existing suggestions ;)

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random cards/forts/fog

Postby khazalid on Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:44 pm

an extra option at the end of each line in 'create a game'

should be pretty easy to implement unless i'm horribly mistaken?
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Re: random cards/forts/fog

Postby yeti_c on Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:50 am

Yeah - I like this idea...

All of the options could be set for random (or not) as you see fit...

Would create a great tourney too - RANDOM Tourney... all games are 6 player random everything!!

That would make a very good test of balanced abilities.

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Re: random cards/forts/fog

Postby kampo on Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:50 pm

two buttons
'start random game'
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Re: random cards/forts/fog

Postby max is gr8 on Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:00 pm

Here it is

Already been suggested.
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Total random games

Postby dakky21 on Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:30 pm

Concise description:
  • When starting a game, option to choose only the number of players and turn duration, and put everything else on random.

Specifics/Details:
  • All settings except number of players are random, including singles, teams, map, inital troops and all other settings.
  • When game is created, everything except number of players and turn duration is shown as random, and the settings are known when last player joins the game.
  • Possibility to select what will be random

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • Many tourneys say "random" settings but they're just hand picked. No "real" random tournaments.
  • Lots of achievements need new unique players in team to get them
  • There are people who avoid some settings, this way everything is upon their luck (or they don't join)
  • Should be simple to implement

I took one game and painted it so you get what I mean:

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That would just be awesome!
Obviously, in even number games there can't be triples unless it's 12 players. Ruleset would be created, but that's up to the admins...

As posted below, something like this should be implemented:
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Re: Total random games

Postby Foxglove on Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:40 pm

Very interesting! Of course the next step is to selectively choose which settings will be random. :) Or maybe only the Spoils/Forts/Fog options can be random? Just throwing out ideas.
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Re: Total random games

Postby dakky21 on Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:32 pm

FoxGlove, you are very right...

Why not have "Start A Game" like this:

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Without the red arrows of course :-D
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Re: Total random games

Postby iAmCaffeine on Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:42 am

I'd definitely get behind this if you can choose which factors are random, as shown in dakky's most recent post. Would the drop-down for Polymorphic also need to have a random option as well?

While we're at it, let's make round length and password random too.
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Re: Total random games

Postby macbone on Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:28 am

I like the idea of random settings, but adding a tic for each individual setting seems a bit much.
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Re: Total random games

Postby iAmCaffeine on Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:45 am

macbone wrote:I like the idea of random settings, but adding a tic for each individual setting seems a bit much.


Why?
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Re: Total random games

Postby macbone on Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:58 am

Feature creep, Caffeine. Every new tic makes the game finder/creation page that much more complex.
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Re: Total random games

Postby iAmCaffeine on Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:07 am

macbone wrote:Feature creep, Caffeine. Every new tic makes the game finder/creation page that much more complex.


I agree completely, but I don't think having a random option for each variable makes anything more complicated. It's not like it's a new setting that people won't understand the function of - it's very straightforward. I would even argue it makes starting games more simple for newer players who don't understand the various settings.
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Re: Total random games

Postby Swifte on Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:31 pm

I really like this idea... especially being able to pick it selectively for various items. I understand the concern about the start a game screen though... hmm.
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Re: Total random games

Postby iAmCaffeine on Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:38 pm

Swifte wrote:I really like this idea... especially being able to pick it selectively for various items. I understand the concern about the start a game screen though... hmm.


Maybe instead of 'random' on each variable there could be an organised column of boxes to one side; you select whichever boxes you want click 'randomise', or something to that effect?
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Re: Total random games

Postby dakky21 on Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:13 pm

As per my original idea, round length can't be random, as if you get 1 minute speed when the last player joins the game, he will probably win it, because other players will deadbeat at that moment.
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Re: Total random games

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:27 am

dakky21 wrote:As per my original idea, round length can't be random, as if you get 1 minute speed when the last player joins the game, he will probably win it, because other players will deadbeat at that moment.


I knew someone would take the joke seriously.
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Re: Total random games

Postby dakky21 on Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:27 am

Caff, I'm trying to make this idea a reality, didn't get a joke sorry :)
BTW updated 1st post.
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Re: Total random games

Postby Arama86n on Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:21 am

Excellent idea.
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Re: Total random games

Postby jghost7 on Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:52 am

Yeah I think this would be cool.

macbone wrote:Feature creep, Caffeine. Every new tic makes the game finder/creation page that much more complex.


I dont think it will be that bad.


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Re: Total random games

Postby JamesKer1 on Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:33 pm

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Re: Total random games

Postby Butters1919 on Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:25 am

at the moment, we need less options, not more. games hardly fill as is, adding more options means even more games waiting to fill and never doing so. back in the "old days' of 15,000 users, OK. but not with the numbers we have now….
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Re: Total random games

Postby Endgame422 on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:24 pm

Instead how about an single tic that randomized all settings except number of players game type and round length. This way you could have random settings without adding a bunch of space to the game page.
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Re: Total random games

Postby dakky21 on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:17 am

Endgame422 wrote:Instead how about an single tic that randomized all settings except number of players game type and round length. This way you could have random settings without adding a bunch of space to the game page.


That was the original idea... Since it is a total random game idea.
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Re: Total random games

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:51 am

I've run tournaments with random games, and while some of the games end up with interesting combinations, others are just terrible. No Spoils Assassing with Trench is just awful, for instance. Nobody can build up for a kill, you can't get to your target, and it just turns into a long drawn-out builder.

The next time I do a tournament with Random settings, there will be pre-set lists with popular combinations like Escalating Sunny Terminator or No Spoils Foggy Triples, and I will just randomize from among them.

Not sure if that could be applied here or if it's a complete derailment of your thread, but I would rather have an option to randomize from among pre-set lists of options rather than randomizing each option seperately.
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