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Dualta wrote:Well, I might not get my long desired 'I beat KORT medal', but at least I can say I was part of the squad that administered S&M's first spanking. Are your butt cheeks red enough for you, fellas?
betiko wrote:i think that KORT entered this competition as KORT.... the members of TSM being eliminated from the CC5 cannot participate in this competition anymore, so technically... KORT isn't S&M yet, at least for this war/competition
betiko wrote:i think that KORT entered this competition as KORT.... the members of TSM being eliminated from the CC5 cannot participate in this competition anymore, so technically... KORT isn't S&M yet, at least for this war/competition
Armandolas wrote:betiko wrote:i think that KORT entered this competition as KORT.... the members of TSM being eliminated from the CC5 cannot participate in this competition anymore, so technically... KORT isn't S&M yet, at least for this war/competition
Streaker wrote:Armandolas wrote:betiko wrote:i think that KORT entered this competition as KORT.... the members of TSM being eliminated from the CC5 cannot participate in this competition anymore, so technically... KORT isn't S&M yet, at least for this war/competition
Nobody is claiming otherwise.
betiko wrote:Streaker wrote:Armandolas wrote:betiko wrote:i think that KORT entered this competition as KORT.... the members of TSM being eliminated from the CC5 cannot participate in this competition anymore, so technically... KORT isn't S&M yet, at least for this war/competition
Nobody is claiming otherwise.
I was adressing this regarding what the medal should say on their wall if this win is confirmed. I think it should say KORT and not S&M, because technically they are facing KORT as the monkeys haven't joined the ship yet. And yes, the title of this thread kind of claims otherwise...
But skill, I don't think anyone here was acusing the monkeys of anything.... I think this whole discussion was just regarding what the medal should say... TOFU beat KORT or TOFU beat S&M in this particular war (yes, this is far from over, not climing TOFU has this in the bag yet)
skillfull wrote:betiko wrote:Streaker wrote:Armandolas wrote:betiko wrote:i think that KORT entered this competition as KORT.... the members of TSM being eliminated from the CC5 cannot participate in this competition anymore, so technically... KORT isn't S&M yet, at least for this war/competition
Nobody is claiming otherwise.
I was adressing this regarding what the medal should say on their wall if this win is confirmed. I think it should say KORT and not S&M, because technically they are facing KORT as the monkeys haven't joined the ship yet. And yes, the title of this thread kind of claims otherwise...
But skill, I don't think anyone here was acusing the monkeys of anything.... I think this whole discussion was just regarding what the medal should say... TOFU beat KORT or TOFU beat S&M in this particular war (yes, this is far from over, not climing TOFU has this in the bag yet)
Read Arama's post first betiko and then read mine again because my english doesn't help me to write at once a good post, i need to edit it 3-4 times to complete it.
Arama86n wrote:Fair enough skillfull.
But I think you misinterpret my intention. I was not in any way implying that TSM members were trying to take credit for a win they have not earned. I thoroughly assume that no TSM member would ever want such a thing, and thus It seem to me that this situation is being forced on you, thus I sympathize with you guys in this situation.
Besides you have to take into account that KORT may not win this, and the way I read what has been written it seems like S&M would then be attributed with a loss for a war it did not fight, which is unfair to you, your clan mates, and the members of KORT that perhaps want a fresh start?
I just don't understand why the CD team would step in and change the clan name in this thread, implying that they intend to record this as a battle between TOFU & S&M. It is an unnecessary complication. I will refrain from writing more from fear of repeating myself.
I wish you and the rest of TSM the best of luck in your new home. I just wish CD's had handled this with more thought.
skillfull wrote:Arama86n wrote:Fair enough skillfull.
But I think you misinterpret my intention. I was not in any way implying that TSM members were trying to take credit for a win they have not earned. I thoroughly assume that no TSM member would ever want such a thing, and thus It seem to me that this situation is being forced on you, thus I sympathize with you guys in this situation.
Besides you have to take into account that KORT may not win this, and the way I read what has been written it seems like S&M would then be attributed with a loss for a war it did not fight, which is unfair to you, your clan mates, and the members of KORT that perhaps want a fresh start?
I just don't understand why the CD team would step in and change the clan name in this thread, implying that they intend to record this as a battle between TOFU & S&M. It is an unnecessary complication. I will refrain from writing more from fear of repeating myself.
I wish you and the rest of TSM the best of luck in your new home. I just wish CD's had handled this with more thought.
Ok, and thanks.
fishydance wrote:skillfull wrote:Arama86n wrote:Fair enough skillfull.
But I think you misinterpret my intention. I was not in any way implying that TSM members were trying to take credit for a win they have not earned. I thoroughly assume that no TSM member would ever want such a thing, and thus It seem to me that this situation is being forced on you, thus I sympathize with you guys in this situation.
Besides you have to take into account that KORT may not win this, and the way I read what has been written it seems like S&M would then be attributed with a loss for a war it did not fight, which is unfair to you, your clan mates, and the members of KORT that perhaps want a fresh start?
I just don't understand why the CD team would step in and change the clan name in this thread, implying that they intend to record this as a battle between TOFU & S&M. It is an unnecessary complication. I will refrain from writing more from fear of repeating myself.
I wish you and the rest of TSM the best of luck in your new home. I just wish CD's had handled this with more thought.
Ok, and thanks.
I'd like to add my thanks as well. I believe the two clans currently competing (TOFU and the former KORT) should be allowed to request the name on the medal to reflect the names at the start of the war. That's a fair request, and one I hope can be granted.
IcePack wrote:However if both sides would like the medals to say KORT, the leaders of the two clans can say so in a PM if they choose and the CD's would discuss it.
fishydance wrote:Dualta wrote:Well, I might not get my long desired 'I beat KORT medal', but at least I can say I was part of the squad that administered S&M's first spanking. Are your butt cheeks red enough for you, fellas?
Not for a true S&Mer
iAmCaffeine wrote:betiko wrote:iAmCaffeine wrote:Knew it was coming, despite being told I didn't and then getting a forum ban, nice one. So, is this different to ACE simply because it was applied for as a merge, rather than creation of a new clan, and ACE opted for the latter? It'll be interesting to see how many are making the jump.
this looks more like kort absorbing tsm, keeping kort's record, while emp & aoc was a merge starting off a new clan from a clean sheet. It probably should've been seen as an absorbtion of aoc into empire, would've been more simple for rankings and all.
While I fully understand both clan's decision, it's still a shame to see a nice old timer clan like tsm disapear. Also, would've been more fun for competition's sake to see tsm merge with a slightly lower tear clan such as legion or something of this caliber.
#1 - that's basically what I said.
#2 - agreed, it's a shame to see TSM go. I expect they'll keep the usergroup there as social. If a merge had to happen, I couldn't have foreseen it happening with anyone apart from TOFU, KoRT or IA. Funnily enough, a deal was originally on the cards with one of the aforementioned clans, but terms couldn't be agreed. Perhaps LoW too but things don't seem so friendly on that front.
Well, good luck to S&M.
If any monkeys aren't swinging over, give me a call.Had to say something somewhere! You won't be the only ex-TSM player.
That's probably enough hijacking! Keep up the good fight TOFU & KoRT/S&M/whatever! I never know who to root for in these wars.. I have friends and enemies in both, but for some reason I'm always swayed to cheer TOFU.
codeblue1018 wrote:Aram, I hope I didn't take your statement the wrong way regarding TSM's "situation"; let's be clear - we weren't absorbed, taken over or however it's labeled; we weren't forced to do anything - it was a choice that made sense for both clans, so we decided on a name suiting both sides and wallah; S&M arrived. TSM was a top 5 clan and have been for a long time and still would be competing a a high level if left unchanged. Our clan war record was extremely good, unfortunately, we can't win them all. If I was off base on your comment, my apologies.
For the record, I agree; the medals should reflect Kort. TSM members are above reproach and don't want things that aren't earned, nor would we accept it if it got to that point.
Arama86n wrote:codeblue1018 wrote:Aram, I hope I didn't take your statement the wrong way regarding TSM's "situation"; let's be clear - we weren't absorbed, taken over or however it's labeled; we weren't forced to do anything - it was a choice that made sense for both clans, so we decided on a name suiting both sides and wallah; S&M arrived. TSM was a top 5 clan and have been for a long time and still would be competing a a high level if left unchanged. Our clan war record was extremely good, unfortunately, we can't win them all. If I was off base on your comment, my apologies.
For the record, I agree; the medals should reflect Kort. TSM members are above reproach and don't want things that aren't earned, nor would we accept it if it got to that point.
My initial post was made because I assumed that TSM would not want a medal to be issued saying "For the win of The Odd Fellows Union over Spanked and Milked".
Nor would they, or members of Kort for that matter, want one that said "For the win of Spanked and Milked over The Odd Fellows Union"
It would seem it was a choice of the CD team, so I am in no way holding TSM responsible, and as far as I know KORT is not either.
But after my posts IcePack stated that should the clans want the medals to read TOFU/KORT then it would be granted. So situation resolved, and no need to discuss it further. I believe I have also stated that I in no way meant any disrespect to TSM, so I hope that is done with as well.
Have a nice day all.
And as I'm posting again anyway, my regards to skillfull, fishydance and IcePack. Nice to see it resolved with a minimal of effort.
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