Off Topic Post Count

[hecter]

To be honest, I don't really care, I just don't know why Flame Wars was kept too... If you compare the two, you'll find a hell of a lot more meaningful threads in IK than you will in FW.

EDIT: This no post count in IK thing isn't really working, however... viewtopic.php?f=8&t=47468
The biggest problem I can foresee with this is the fact that new comers will come and see that IK doesn't count posts and automatically assume it's a spam board and spam it all to hell, because that's what's generally done with Spam Boards, rather than simply off-topic boards.

[greenoaks]

do posts in forum games count because they don't seem to be about an online version of the boardgame Risk ?

[cena-rules]

sign me up too!
IK posts are posts too!

[Ditocoaf]

In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.

[nagerous]

Since they've extended it to forum games where 71.4% of my posts have apparently come from then I'll sign this. The whole restriction thing seems dumb. Then again its become recently evident that the administration doesn't actually care about some of its most active forum members...

[yeti_c]

In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.

C.

[^MsCarolyn^]

In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.

C.

I agree but I do wonder why usergroups got lumped in with off-topic. Most uesgroups revolve around cc(ie the topics aren't ot), esepcially clans. It doesn't really bother me either way but the reasons for not having off-topic count doesn't seem to apply for usergroups, at least not all usergroups.

caro

[nagerous]

In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.

C.

So what you're essentially saying is nothing in the forum games, IK or usergroups contribute to the community in any way but the spam and crap that is always posted in flame wars does?

How about half the spam in general discussion? Or posts that just say C. and don't actually contribute to a debate in any way?

[Neoteny]

Hooray for arbitrary rules! I just need to spam about 90 posts and then you "useful members of the community" will never hear from me again!

::fades away for now::

[hecter]

In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.

I think this is a perfect reason why FW posts should not count if Off Topic posts don't either. If they're going to do something, it should at least be done right and carried through all the way.

[nagerous]

Another thing wrong with this idea is that you still have the post count stat on the screen. Children will still come on this website, see that stat and think I want to get my post count high.After learning that IK posts don't count, where the bulk of the spam is they will start spamming up other areas of the website, which so far have been clean from the spam. This honestly isn't the best solution to the problem.

[Ray Rider]

To be honest, I don't really care, I just don't know why Flame Wars was kept too... If you compare the two, you'll find a hell of a lot more meaningful threads in IK than you will in FW.

I agree, and the same goes for usergroups, in my opinion.

[Snorri1234]

By not attributing post count to Usergroups and Off Topics forums, it'll keep certain types of spam down.


--Andy

I don't agree with this at all. There are people who care about their post count (not sure why). So if they don't get post count increase from IK, then they'll just start posting and spamming in the forums that do count. I do know that people who do that can be punished and such, but once everyone starts doing it, then it'll be too hard to keep up with punishing the offenders.

That and it would increase the amount of garbage posts in the CC areas. While it may not necessarily pertain to spam, it would increase the amount of stupid replies a thread gets. Things like "lol, I never thought of that." or "lol" or "you suck" or any other witty one liner that someone can post in several threads. There's already way too many replies when someone makes a post complaining about dice. Add all the people trying to increase their post count to the mix by all repeating each other over and over again.

Fun times are ahead, I assure you.

This guy nailed it.

By taking away the only forums where people can actually spam without much problems, you're just transferring the problem to the parts where it is a problem.

Edit: Also, +1 to my postcount!!!

[Ditocoaf]

In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.

C.

So what you're essentially saying is nothing in the forum games, IK or usergroups contribute to the community in any way but the spam and crap that is always posted in flame wars does?

How about half the spam in general discussion? Or posts that just say C. and don't actually contribute to a debate in any way?

I was mostly just talking about why it can be okay for some posts not to be counted; I don't know anything about the FW forum (I've never posted there). I think the reason that it's still counted is that it's intended to be about the game, but if people aren't actually using it to argue about actual games as desired by the staff, then I guess it shouldn't be counted either.

[oggiss]

Add my name to the list =)

[hecter]

I was mostly just talking about why it can be okay for some posts not to be counted; I don't know anything about the FW forum (I've never posted there). I think the reason that it's still counted is that it's intended to be about the game, but if people aren't actually using it to argue about actual games as desired by the staff, then I guess it shouldn't be counted either.

Well, technically everything in there is about the game and/or it's players, but I just don't think that "*insert CC in general/dice/player name* is a *insert profanities* *insert descriptive and disgusting thing about sex*" really constitutes useful and helpful discussion that will help the site grow.

I also don't like the message that not counting posts in IK sends. In itself, it's a very trivial matter; post count doesn't actually mean anything. But it sends the message that IK is just some stupid spam board and that's all it's good for, rather than a place more like the cliched watercooler in an office, where you can go, hang out, chat about nothing or discuss important cultural topics, get some help with something (non-CC related), ect.

[Fircoal]

In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.

C.

So what you're essentially saying is nothing in the forum games, IK or usergroups contribute to the community in any way but the spam and crap that is always posted in flame wars does?

How about half the spam in general discussion? Or posts that just say C. and don't actually contribute to a debate in any way?

QFT, many of the points for why the IK should count make a lot of sense. And do you guys really want the other boards to be spamfull?

Also sign me up on the list please.

[whitestazn88]

how is fircoal's post count still so damn high?

[timmytuttut88]

Don't say "we"

"we" is very deceptive.

I do not agree with you.

i said we since it wasnt my idea to make this thread.

[AndyDufresne]

We know your position, now give us some time to work on everything, will you?


--Andy

[Ditocoaf]

I was mostly just talking about why it can be okay for some posts not to be counted; I don't know anything about the FW forum (I've never posted there). I think the reason that it's still counted is that it's intended to be about the game, but if people aren't actually using it to argue about actual games as desired by the staff, then I guess it shouldn't be counted either.

Well, technically everything in there is about the game and/or it's players, but I just don't think that "*insert CC in general/dice/player name* is a *insert profanities* *insert descriptive and disgusting thing about sex*" really constitutes useful and helpful discussion that will help the site grow.

I also don't like the message that not counting posts in IK sends. In itself, it's a very trivial matter; post count doesn't actually mean anything. But it sends the message that IK is just some stupid spam board and that's all it's good for, rather than a place more like the cliched watercooler in an office, where you can go, hang out, chat about nothing or discuss important cultural topics, get some help with something (non-CC related), ect.

Well, I think the post count is designed to show your CC-related experience. Someone could join, not play a single game, not even know how to play, and discuss politics constantly in IK; this would give them a high post-count, but no knowledge of the game.

I'm not sure how well this concept will apply to this community, but in others, it's helped people know who to look to regarding game issues. People still use the off-topic forums for meaningful discourse, but that meaningful discourse could take place anywhere, and has no purpose to that website.

I can see two potentials for FW: What it is now (people insulting other people, trying to either shock readers, or make themselves look BA,), and what it was meant to be (a place to say, "you suck at playing CN, look at what you did in game 1234567!" and debate who plays the worst). The former definitely does not relate to the game; the second does. Using the rationale I mentioned above, then either FW should be regulated to game-realted trash talk, or FW posts shouldn't count. This is of course if the limited post-count stays in effect.

[Ditocoaf]

Also, since you're making a list, could you make a list of people who agree with the limitations in any way?

If you make one, add me to it.

[timmytuttut88]

Well, I think the post count is designed to show your CC-related experience. Someone could join, not play a single game, not even know how to play, and discuss politics constantly in IK; this would give them a high post-count, but no knowledge of the game.

they could post a lot in FW too and even tournament games. What knowledge of how to play the game does that give them?

I'm not sure how well this concept will apply to this community, but in others, it's helped people know who to look to regarding game issues. People still use the off-topic forums for meaningful discourse, but that meaningful discourse could take place anywhere, and has no purpose to that website.

so people who get all there posts in FW know a lot about the game. Let me say my most active post place is FW and I suck at this game. Even for tournament games, announcements. What knowledge of the game do you even gain from callouts?

I can see two potentials for FW: What it is now (people insulting other people, trying to either shock readers, or make themselves look BA,), and what it was meant to be (a place to say, "you suck at playing CN, look at what you did in game 1234567!" and debate who plays the worst). The former definitely does not relate to the game; the second does. Using the rationale I mentioned above, then either FW should be regulated to game-realted trash talk, or FW posts shouldn't count. This is of course if the limited post-count stays in effect.

FW will never be the "i dont like the way you deploy" sort of place. Its for FLAMES although you could try to change that it will never work.

[timmytuttut88]

Also, since you're making a list, could you make a list of people who agree with the limitations in any way?

If you make one, add me to it.

well then i have to add all teh mods, but w.e.

[wicked]

I'd rather see getting rid of the FW post counts too, than allowing IK posts to count again.