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Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:And if it is an all vanilla game, which I'm pretty sure it is, then the claim can't be countered and scum have free reign to claim whatever.
I did mention that if i was wrong, one of the three of you are clearly not who you say you are.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:This isn't going anywhere.
You and i will be at an impass for time memorial.
You think I'm scum, i think you're scum.
If youre a cop and this "doc" lynch goes through, feel free to investigate me.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:I won't.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:degaston wrote:DirtyDishSoap wrote:Inactivity is not alignment indictive. You should know this.
And because I'm calling BS on power roles in a vanilla game, that's also scummy? What? Lol. Okay.
You're not scummy because of what i-andre did. You're scummy because you want to lynch the town's power roles.
How many scum do you think there are in this game?
Three people have claimed or soft-claimed non-vanilla roles. Either we're all scum, or you're being an idiot.
Oof, name calling, love it.
11 players started. There's going to be at least 2. 3 is really hard to justify.
It isn't far fetched to say that there isn't power roles. Whether you want to call me an idiot for it or not, a doctor cannot target himself.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:I'm not going to back down from the power roles. And having 3 town PR's is just as much BS as 3 scum. Either I'm outright wrong about this being pure vanilla, or one of you is lying about your role.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Yeah! I think you're all lying! What wasn't clear about this?!
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Here. Read this. This is for everyone.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Doctor
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Hey that's fine, if he gets lynched, flips town, I'll accept the responsibility. You could also just investigate me the following night to, to confirm that I am town. That is, if you're cop. Just sayin.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Ok, I wont quote cause there is a lot of thing to quote that would take me a lot of time. SO i' will try to write my thoughts about the current situation trying to check who said what.
Main Discussion: This is a full vanilla game with no power roles for town and 3 people made a full scheme or this is a normal game with doc, cop and possibly another role.
Why the disscussion, Dirty claims the Doc cannot be on himself, Deg says it can and prove it by pointing a game where he was a doc and was on himself at night. I say the situation it's completely up to the game creator. I have no much experience on online mafia, but when I have played it with my friends, Doc can be on himself (Sometimes there are rules that he cannot protect the same people 2 nights in a row, but thats another disscusion) the point is IF the doc can be or not on himself is up to the game creator and there is no universal rule.
Out of this disscussion we also have 3 power Roles Darin (Doc), Deg (Cop) and Fusi (soft claim), so either the 3 of them are scum or they are all saying the truth as were cleared by the cop. If fusi does not want to say his role (Maybe fearing he would be a target, please confir if u have a role or not). so we know if there is roles or not in this game as 3 afia with no power roles for towns would make absolutely 0 sense.
I say Strike kill made perfect sense, he was confirmed townie, so would not be lynched, and doc would have been on cop or himself, so to avoid another night without kills, mafia killed a confirmed townie.
Lynching a power role just to prove if there is or not power roles, makes 0 sense to me, I do belive we have power roles. as I said 3 scum with 0 power roles is incredibly unbalanced.
Andrei was suspicious and Dirty have not helped himself, but maybe he wants to stirr things up, so I'm not voting him just yet, but would like to explain why would all of them be scum.
FInally, lets remember our first cop was Dunk, and he posted quite fast he was watching us. therefore I dont thing mafia coudl have planned it from the beggining, he is not experienced playes and I serioulsy doubt he come with a scheme like this.
Dirty, pixar and Chana on of them has to be a scum at least, trying to get a power role lynched.
strike wolf wrote:I'm more or less where you are. I'm skeptical of how quickly Darin got to 3 votes with little other discussion. If we're dealing with 3 mafia then bar good doc luck at night then we only have one more mislynch we can afford before we have to be perfect with it each night (10-2=8. 8-2=6. 3=6/2. Yay math) Pixar has also been rubbing me the wrong way. His reasoning for the vote just felt very safe. That said. Darin has not defended himself well. Soft claiming a power role that blatantly is if anything worse than claiming a power role.
Either way, I'd like to remind everyone that we are not in a rush to get to the lynch at the moment. Let's take time to figure things out and explore leads.
strike wolf wrote:Yea. Not really buying it. It's a vanilla game. So it's not even all that likely we *have* a third power role. This kind of just sounds like Fusi seeing that people unvoted after Darin and Dunk claimed power roles and wants to try the same. The OMGus vote on Law doesn't help.
strike wolf wrote:Whether a doc can self-protect has always been dependent on the mod. It's not universal.
strike wolf wrote:So the options are two mafia are lying about being cop and doc and haven't been counterclaimed.
Or Fusi is wrong/scum.
Fusi's been a lot more active since people started putting pressure on him and a lot of his accusations have been in some way or another OMGus. He's avoided claiming so far just saying that he's a power role and he'll die if he claims which just smells like bs as 1. This a vanilla game and the chances that we have 3 power roles isn't extremely likely and 2. No power role is going to be higher on the mafia kill list then cop or doc. I think he's just trying to emulate the Darin strat of not claiming until the last second because it did keep Darin from getting lynched in the long run.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:We are never gonna know if doc can or cannot be on himself untill darin is lynched killed or game over.
But them please answer me this dirty.
My last point. Dunk was our first cop. By all means an inexperienced player that almost got himself lynched by d1 in prison game. He posted really fast he was watching us and then claimed cop.
So do we agree that we can trust our cop?
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:
Same thing with a Doc though. A Docs priority, a good one at least, should be to protect those that are obvious towns. We had a cop reveal, who lives, but then claims a self protect after N2? That is extremely odd.
Even moreso, when I have someone telling me that Strike is an obvious choice, but our Doc chooses not to protect. I can understand if you continue self protecting, but given the contribution from said Doc has been close to Nil vs someone who actively questioned everything, I'm even more suspicious of the claim.
Does that make sense to you?
TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:DirtyDishSoap wrote:
Same thing with a Doc though. A Docs priority, a good one at least, should be to protect those that are obvious towns. We had a cop reveal, who lives, but then claims a self protect after N2? That is extremely odd.
Even moreso, when I have someone telling me that Strike is an obvious choice, but our Doc chooses not to protect. I can understand if you continue self protecting, but given the contribution from said Doc has been close to Nil vs someone who actively questioned everything, I'm even more suspicious of the claim.
Does that make sense to you?
Strike kill makes perfect sense. Doc priorities should always be town power roles (cop, doc mainly), so 90% of the time will be on those. If mafia wants to be certain of a death shoul pick someone else. And should be a confirmed town that they wont be able to lynch at day.
But doc shouldnt have been on strike, as I said he should always be on doc or cop
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:DirtyDishSoap wrote:
Same thing with a Doc though. A Docs priority, a good one at least, should be to protect those that are obvious towns. We had a cop reveal, who lives, but then claims a self protect after N2? That is extremely odd.
Even moreso, when I have someone telling me that Strike is an obvious choice, but our Doc chooses not to protect. I can understand if you continue self protecting, but given the contribution from said Doc has been close to Nil vs someone who actively questioned everything, I'm even more suspicious of the claim.
Does that make sense to you?
Strike kill makes perfect sense. Doc priorities should always be town power roles (cop, doc mainly), so 90% of the time will be on those. If mafia wants to be certain of a death shoul pick someone else. And should be a confirmed town that they wont be able to lynch at day.
But doc shouldnt have been on strike, as I said he should always be on doc or cop
It doesn't to me though. You have a doc and a cop who claimed, neither of which have been night killed. Why go for Strike? I mentioned this earlier, but Strike had a hard on for Fusi, who later gets cleared for town. Why not try and kill one of the PR's and leave Strike on Fusi?
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