aage wrote:So, again, was there a night 0? I think not.
sensfan wrote:Aage, I'm sorry, go to page 4, and you see there was a N0.
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aage wrote:So, again, was there a night 0? I think not.
sensfan wrote:Aage, I'm sorry, go to page 4, and you see there was a N0.
theherkman wrote:Umm, I need to claim, kinda... I found scum on night 0. I am one of two townies who can talk at night. My partner can investigate each night. He is sent a food item that tells him about who he investigated. Donuts are cops, banana splits are other townies, pizza is mafia. The two of us decided I should come out with this because I don't have the investigative ability and he won't be at risk. Haggis returned pizza.
sensfan wrote:Aage, I'm sorry, go to page 4, and you see there was a N0.
Commander9 wrote:Wait, all of this is for real?
aage wrote:Wait.
*sniff sniff*
Lyncher?
I'm really holding back my vote. No offence or feelings towards Haggis, I just don't trust THM.
Jace22 wrote:I believe that haggis isn't in your faction. After all, this isn't a town vs scum game, it's a faction game, so would you not be getting pizza for everyone but you and your partner?
Jace22 wrote:I'm saying that things aren't always so black and white in faction games. Yes, there are townies, but that is only a matter of perspective.
karelpietertje wrote:Jace22 wrote:I believe that haggis isn't in your faction. After all, this isn't a town vs scum game, it's a faction game, so would you not be getting pizza for everyone but you and your partner?Jace22 wrote:I'm saying that things aren't always so black and white in faction games. Yes, there are townies, but that is only a matter of perspective.
One reason for not wanting the day phase to end after a sudden claim is because of Jace22s posts above.
I definitely feel this is a possible slip-up by a non-town role. FoS Jace22
karelpietertje wrote:Maybe it's because I was in Team Rocket with theherkman, but I have to say, I partially trust him on his claim.
The lyncher think made me hesitate for a moment, but then I couldn't imagine theherkman coming up with the whole fruit bunch.
I believe the 'food cop' thing. (I love how terms like this just pop into these games, thanks aage )
I believe that it is in his best interest that Haggis dies, and in the best interest of town.
Only thing I wonder is if maybe he faked his buddy. I could imagine, if he were the food cop himself, he would want the mafia to think otherwise so he wouldn't get targeted himself.
I'll definitely keep an eye on Haggis now, but I don't feel like being a sheep to theherkmans sheperds crook and skipping this Dayphase.
theherkman wrote:karelpietertje wrote:Jace22 wrote:I believe that haggis isn't in your faction. After all, this isn't a town vs scum game, it's a faction game, so would you not be getting pizza for everyone but you and your partner?Jace22 wrote:I'm saying that things aren't always so black and white in faction games. Yes, there are townies, but that is only a matter of perspective.
One reason for not wanting the day phase to end after a sudden claim is because of Jace22s posts above.
I definitely feel this is a possible slip-up by a non-town role. FoS Jace22
Agreed. I also just want to mention I was the first to point this out.
theherkman wrote:Umm, I need to claim, kinda... I found scum on night 0. I am one of two townies who can talk at night. My partner can investigate each night. He is sent a food item that tells him about who he investigated. Donuts are cops, banana splits are other townies, pizza is mafia. The two of us decided I should come out with this because I don't have the investigative ability and he won't be at risk. Haggis returned pizza.
Jace22 wrote:I believe that haggis isn't in your faction. After all, this isn't a town vs scum game, it's a faction game, so would you not be getting pizza for everyone but you and your partner?
karelpietertje wrote:Maybe it's because I was in Team Rocket with theherkman, but I have to say, I partially trust him on his claim.
The lyncher think made me hesitate for a moment, but then I couldn't imagine theherkman coming up with the whole fruit bunch.
Herk's fakeclaim source wrote:The Caterer is a simple flavor cop that checks to see players' catering orders. He gets returned Pizza for Mafia, Donuts for Cop, and other food items for anyone else.
Victor Sullivan wrote:CampinKiller
Campin_Killer wrote:Very funny victor.
Herk has officially confused me here.
Why does mafia eat pizza? I'm not mafia, but I love pizza
Haggis_McMutton wrote:You and your "friend" can talk at night, correct? And his night action was to investigate me, correct? So how do you know the result? The result of night actions are sent when the night period is over, meaning he couldn't have told you what he got.
This means that you are either lying, or you cheated and talked during the day, in which case Sully should look into this. I'm pretty sure you are lying though.
Also:Jace22 wrote:I believe that haggis isn't in your faction. After all, this isn't a town vs scum game, it's a faction game, so would you not be getting pizza for everyone but you and your partner?
This is totally admitting that he's in a faction. His later comment about town not being "black and white" and his comment during confirmation that his role is boring makes me seriously suspect the he was recruited N0.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:I'm glad people aren't falling for this bullshit so easily.theherkman wrote:Umm, I need to claim, kinda... I found scum on night 0. I am one of two townies who can talk at night. My partner can investigate each night. He is sent a food item that tells him about who he investigated. Donuts are cops, banana splits are other townies, pizza is mafia. The two of us decided I should come out with this because I don't have the investigative ability and he won't be at risk. Haggis returned pizza.
As has been pointed out, this has so many holes it's ridiculous.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:First of all, it would be highly irregular for people to have investigative abilities on N0 ESPECIALLY in a game where there seems to be a cult. Do you see how such a game would be basically impossible to balance? because there would be a great difference in the town's position based on what the cop got on N0?
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Second, as has been pointed out, 3 factions. Why can you only detect one opposing faction?
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Third, You and your "friend" can talk at night, correct? And his night action was to investigate me, correct? So how do you know the result? The result of night actions are sent when the night period is over, meaning he couldn't have told you what he got.
This means that you are either lying, or you cheated and talked during the day, in which case Sully should look into this. I'm pretty sure you are lying though.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Now, let's do a thought experiment. We all know herk is an aggressive, risk-taking sort of player, and he has a lot of trust in his bullshitting ability. How do you imagine he would play a lyncher role against a relatively cautious player like me, who's unlikely to say anything too stupid and get lynched as a result.
Might he make a bullshit story up about how he got me as scum as soon as the game starts? After all at the beginning of D1, there obviously aren't any real cases, so people should jump at a cop claiming to have found scum, no matter how many holes the claim has, right?
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Also:Jace22 wrote:I believe that haggis isn't in your faction. After all, this isn't a town vs scum game, it's a faction game, so would you not be getting pizza for everyone but you and your partner?
This is totally admitting that he's in a faction. His later comment about town not being "black and white" and his comment during confirmation that his role is boring makes me seriously suspect the he was recruited N0.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:He didn't come up with the fruit thing. Remember the mafia wiki someone gave him in Briarsburg, and that he claims he read in it's entirety even finding the obscure punisher role in there?
Well: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Flavor_CopMafiaScum Wiki wrote:The Caterer is a simple flavor cop that checks to see players' catering orders. He gets returned Pizza for Mafia, Donuts for Cop, and other food items for anyone else.
aage wrote:Last post of Haggis pretty much links us to THM's buddy's role. I'll say this: its possible, it's both possible, but I don't know which is the right one.
Also 3 faction mafia tells me there's 2 mafia teams. So if THM's buddy gets results for mafia, town and third party, which mafia does he get the result from? Both at the same time seems lame but then Victor is hosting.
Campin_Killer wrote:Very funny victor.
Herk has officially confused me here.
Why does mafia eat pizza? I'm not mafia, but I love pizza
theherkman wrote:Haggis_McMutton wrote:I'm glad people aren't falling for this bullshit so easily.theherkman wrote:aage wrote:Last post of Haggis pretty much links us to THM's buddy's role. I'll say this: its possible, it's both possible, but I don't know which is the right one.
Also 3 faction mafia tells me there's 2 mafia teams. So if THM's buddy gets results for mafia, town and third party, which mafia does he get the result from? Both at the same time seems lame but then Victor is hosting.
What post links us to my buddy's role? You mean the link?
Also, I have no idea where you are getting this from, man. But all I know about are donuts, banana splits, and pizza. I don't know anything about a third party. I also never mentioned I did...
cops, third party, who cares. The point is, your flavor cop only can see if someone is town or mafia, which is not something I'd expect in a 3 faction mafia.
As for your top question, I genuinely hope you are NOT serious. "what's the link? you mean the link?" srsly...Hope this has cleared a few things up. I am very interested in hearing Haggis respond to this one since I successfully shot down his bullshit defense.
theherkman wrote:aage wrote:Last post of Haggis pretty much links us to THM's buddy's role. I'll say this: its possible, it's both possible, but I don't know which is the right one.
Also 3 faction mafia tells me there's 2 mafia teams. So if THM's buddy gets results for mafia, town and third party, which mafia does he get the result from? Both at the same time seems lame but then Victor is hosting.
What post links us to my buddy's role? You mean the link?
Also, I have no idea where you are getting this from, man. But all I know about are donuts, banana splits, and pizza. I don't know anything about a third party. I also never mentioned I did...
Hope this has cleared a few things up. I am very interested in hearing Haggis respond to this one since I successfully shot down his bullshit defense.
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