NoSurvivors wrote:I know both kanin and vode are clear. This is because I got redhedge as scum night one. Jak, what made you pick vode? Why not pick the one you had FOS'd (redhedge) that night if you are a cop? Wouldn't it be a good idea to get a hold on someone you have a lead on? Thats why I picked him, to confirm the beliefs he was scum after sam hung town. So we had him.
I was going to stay quiet because then I would not be ousted because I knew a lot of people would chase red anyway. I did not want the mafia knowing I was the cop so I could get another chance to find the other mafia player. What made you come out when you got clear jak? That is not what people normally do unless they are scum trying to make a big move.. how does knowing vode is town help unless we put vode at L2/1? It basicly would out the only help for the town (with doc dead).
Anyhow there is my case. Just questions I have been wanting to ask you.. becasue I know you can't answer them since you are scum. You do have a way with words, I must say. I got scared there for a bit that they would hang me and mafia would win.. but kanin's post reassures me that they have not fallen for your tricks. Jak hangs today, red tomorrow. Like I said earlier, gg town.
I picked Vodean because he has been away so I didn't want potential scum to slip under the radar intentionally or accidentally, also it provides me with proof of innocence in case scum tried to divert my attention to him (He is usually always targeted because of his amount of times as scum, so when he's town scum try to pin it on him, hence, I didn't leave the scum that option ).
As to why I didn't pick Redhedge is because I felt he was a cut and dry case, but with you claiming cop against me and saying you have a guilty on him it makes me question if it's as simple as I thought at days end yesterday.
Now, why did I out? Because we are at LYLO, why risk hoping we lynch the right person and then going into the night and scum having 1/3 chance of killing cop? There are two major risks there, 1.) What if we lynch the wrong person? 2.) What if scum get lucky and hit me in the night? Then where does my information go? If we were at MYLO I wouldn't have claimed but being at LYLO with no doc forces me to claim, so that we have two clears instead of none. 2 clears = 2/3 chance left of hitting mafia instead of 2/5 chance overall. Then going into tomorrow all Vodean or I need to do (it'd be a stupid move for mafia not to kill the real cop at this point before he can pin the last scum/town) is scum hunt with a 1/2 chance of being right with WIFOM or no WIFOM.
Does that answer your question? Because I think in terms of chances, not trust, because to be honest besides Vodean, I trust no one, and I definitely don't trust the mafia fake claiming me (if you're town fake claiming... you are a horrible player if that's the case, just saying). I'd rather out myself, clear another person and hopefully pin one other to bring the town closer to victory instead of letting scum lead a lynch on town. I've been playing on Epic Mafia enough lately to ace this set-up when I am cop. Although on Epic Mafia it allows me an extra result (starts in night phase) so I can get more clears/guilties.
Although, that last paragraph you wrote is making me think Red is cleared or at least more clear than Kanin. You two seem to be working together while not openly doing so. Kanin with the "Oh I believe NoS" and NoS with the "Kanin's post reassures me" maybe I'm a bit paranoid as knowing NoS to be mafia and the last mafia is either Red or Kanin, but that's how I'm reading your guys posts.
While I am on this track I will bring up what I see bad on Red atm. NoS claims guilty on him, Red should know who to trust because if he is town a fellow townie wouldn't claim guilty on him. Thus either NoS is throwing Red under the bus for brownie points or Red is town and not seeing it.
"gg town"? This is another part of your post I don't understand, you are talking to town as if once you lynch me you win. Again, giving me more evidence that you are mafia (besides that fact of me knowing you are for fake claiming, I need to prove who I am to the other two townies).
Keep firing your questions NoS, I am enjoying picking out details that you either slip or might include your scum buddy in them. Like I said, right now I feel Kanin is your buddy but you could be trying to bus Red and earn brownie points with Kanin in doing so.