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dakky21 wrote:Army of GOD wrote:I think the entire discussion around probabilities and whatnot is a smokescreen to act like he's making actually accusations.
Also, instead of leaving it up to dakky, I think we should tell dakky who to pick...that way at least we'll be in control of his night kill
Whole day mandy and william are staying on me for the same reasons from beginning. The reason is I WILL become SK at one point and become a hazard for the town, and they're right there. I will be a problem for town when I become SK. BUT at this current point, I am not a SK. Going for a town vig now is going just like any other claimed town player - "Hey, let's lynch town because town might become a problem" - is what they're trying to do. That doesn't necessarily mean they're scum, but at the same time not willing to change their vote suggests that they are, or for some reason they want a no lynch to happen. They trust each other on a case on me like they know that I'm town and want me dead in order not to shoot someone of them tonight. And if they NK me, it will be known why they did that, because I wanted to shoot them. So my two top scum choices are exactly these two.
So I want to target either Mandy or William for being stubborn. I'll listen to you all and if you all don't agree, I'll shoot someone else, but make me at least a choice between two so they have 50-50.
Now when I wrote that... it came to my mind... the mafia roleblocker wouldn't block the mafia themself... so there must be the town roleblocker OR the mafia targeted Tim as well as I did, but I don't see a reason why would they do that as Tim was unreadable anyway. Now if there is a town roleblocker, why didn't he said if he blocked someone, that would reveal the mafia hitman for N2? Unless the night kill was bussed from someone else to Tim, but that would suggest that both Mandy and William are lying about bussing...
Think about it.
dakky21 wrote:william18 wrote: I did. I implied that if you were lynched, and I found a mafia member, we could lynch him without worrying about you. I think everyone already agrees that you should be lynched before night 4. I just don't get why you want to have 50% chance to lose the game being lynched as an sk. Your probably already an sk, or maybe you don't care about personally winning. Neither are very good cases.
Because as we said before... mafia is not a game of chances. We have reads here and I want to take a shot at my top scum read tonight. Regardless if I turn to SK and lose the game. After all, there is a possibility I don't turn to sk and if that happens people will either have to believe me or they won't, but that's entirely new day.
Army of GOD wrote:mitch was my strongest I think it's way too risky to willingly lynch a claimed detective when no other counter claims were made
that's a risky fakeclaim if he was scum...just can't do it
Army of GOD wrote:I'm going to vote william
Army of GOD wrote:
I think the entire discussion around probabilities and whatnot is a smokescreen to act like he's making actually accusations.
dakky21 wrote:EBWOP:dakky21 wrote:Army of GOD wrote:I think the entire discussion around probabilities and whatnot is a smokescreen to act like he's making actually accusations.
Also, instead of leaving it up to dakky, I think we should tell dakky who to pick...that way at least we'll be in control of his night kill
Whole day mandy and william are staying on me for the same reasons from beginning. The reason is I WILL become SK at one point and become a hazard for the town, and they're right there. I will be a problem for town when I become SK. BUT at this current point, I am not a SK. Going for a town vig now is going just like any other claimed town player - "Hey, let's lynch town because town might become a problem" - is what they're trying to do. That doesn't necessarily mean they're scum, but at the same time not willing to change their vote suggests that they are, or for some reason they want a no lynch to happen. They trust each other on a case on me like they know that I'm town and want me dead in order not to shoot someone of them tonight. And if they NK me, it will be known why they did that, because I wanted to shoot them. So my two top scum choices are exactly these two.
So I want to target either Mandy or William for being stubborn. I'll listen to you all and if you all don't agree, I'll shoot someone else, but make me at least a choice between two so they have 50-50.
Now when I wrote that... it came to my mind... the mafia roleblocker wouldn't block the mafia themself... so there must be the town roleblocker OR the mafia targeted Tim as well as I did, but I don't see a reason why would they do that as Tim was unreadable anyway. Now if there is a town roleblocker, why didn't he said if he blocked someone, that would reveal the mafia hitman for N2? Unless the night kill was bussed from someone else to Tim, but that would suggest that both Mandy and William are lying about bussing...
Think about it.
Army of GOD wrote:I'll claim. I was IB's other half as a town mason. My secondary WC was that IB had to survive, but it looks like IB made sure that didn't happen...
I'm going to vote william
I think the entire discussion around probabilities and whatnot is a smokescreen to act like he's making actually accusations.
Also, instead of leaving it up to dakky, I think we should tell dakky who to pick...that way at least we'll be in control of his night kill
Army of GOD wrote:mitch was my strongest scum read so far but I think it's way too risky to willingly lynch a claimed detective when no other counter claims were made
that's a risky fakeclaim if he was scum...just can't do it
Talapus wrote:I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.
madmitch wrote:@ Will it was just a lucky guess about Tim , when I was told he was an electric pokemon with a surfboard ,I looked up if there was any water/electric pokemons and found chinchou, nothing scummy about that... @ Mandy I don't think AOG was skimming , I am the only claimed Detective, Will claimed JOAT with an investigating role as one his ability.It seems you both want everybodies eyes off you guys.
william18 wrote:mitch - although i think he is playing rather poorly, i'll admit hes probabily town because of his post about tim being chincou
william18 wrote:mandy - he said he was the town busdriver, which makes sense why i got him for my investigation
mandalorian2298 wrote:So, after not posting ANYTHING since Wednesday, you come back with the idea to lynch William TO AVOID WILLINGLY LYNCHING A CLAIMED DETECTIVE WHO HASN'T BEEN COUNTER CLAIMED!!!!????
unvote vote AoG not only is he blatantly submarrining, this vote shows that he doesn't really care who get's lynched. He just poped in, skimmed a bit, a then chose one of the two guys with most votes since he figured that "numbers are bad" argument will mean that he doesn't have to re-read as much. Unfortunatelly for him, he obviously missed William's claim so he ended up puting a foot in his mouth.
dakky21 wrote:william18 wrote:mandy - he said he was the town busdriver, which makes sense why i got him for my investigation
bus driver drives a bus. He doesn't appear to you as a result. If you did target aage and if bus driver switched aage with mandy, then you would get result on mandy. Not on a bus driver. So if he said that (don't have the time to search for the post now), then he is lying about being a bus driver, unless he switched himself with aage, if that was possible.
Marashu wrote:Mandy, can you only target 1 person and yourself, or can you swap 2 people? Interesting to note 2 or more people targeted aage - grats on clearing 2wc.
By process of elimination, I would say HotShot should go. Unless william and mandy are scumbuddies, they check each other out. Dakky is likely town. It is possible that aage was targeted by cop and doc but not mafia, and he himself is mafia, but that is unlikely. With an actual cop, mitch might be a good vigi candidate. Strike has been more towny today, and I feel like hotshot is more likely to be mafia than AoG.
vote hotshot
HotShot53 wrote:Umm... you really shouldn't accuse people of skimming when you skim this bad yourself. Not only did mandy claim bus driver, he claimed that he switched himself with aage, and that made him meet his second win condition of being targeted by 2 people.
madmitch wrote:It looks like Will and Mandy and Dakky and myself don't want to change votes,well that is no good for town, can we all agree on someone else that we all think that could be scummy? W e all agree Aage is the good guy so let's follow his vote.
@ Mandy I don't think AOG was skimming , I am the only claimed Detective, Will claimed JOAT with an investigating role as one his ability.It seems you both want everybodies eyes off you guys.
dakky21 wrote:I agree with Marashu, but even if he proves himself non-lynch-able that doesn't determines his alignment. But at least we will have a lynch today, rather than no lynch. Then again, if mandy and william accept the idea while being on me without a slight chance of thinking of changing vote, I will really think that them are all working together. Even if we lynch Marashu and prove he is lynch-proof, it doesn't mean anything, so I'd rather go with one of them who are on me without any proof other than I "WILL be a hazard for town at some point, maybe never"...
I know how it looks like, but from my point of view, people not voting mandy or william get higher on my scum list. I can be wrong, maybe they're both town, but so much energy spent into lynching me and so much energy not wanting to lynch someone else just screams scum to me. They don't have a working case on anyone else and are feared I will kill one of them. Why don't we work together people if you're really town?
fp'd by AoG
Army of GOD wrote:Wait, I'm confused mandy
Why do you think I skimmed? Im trying to understand, because maybe I misunderstood what happened
1. Mitch claimed town detective...no one counter claimed, right?
2. william claimed JOAT which has a "cop path"...that doesn't make him a cop, he wasn't given the role cop, he was given the role JOAT, which imo is the easiest fake claim in mafia
Talapus wrote:I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.
That's exactly what I thought, so I still have you as town.Army of GOD wrote:I'll claim. I was IB's other half as a town mason. My secondary WC was that IB had to survive, but it looks like IB made sure that didn't happen...
That's exactly what I suggested earlier you're town, please keep up.Also, instead of leaving it up to dakky, I think we should tell dakky who to pick...that way at least we'll be in control of his night kill
That's just silly. William shared that he targeted me with his ability, and got a result on Mandy. Then Mandy claimed he is busdriver and switched me and himself. It's really simple - either they are both lying, or they are both telling the truth.I'm going to vote william
I think the entire discussion around probabilities and whatnot is a smokescreen to act like he's making actually accusations.
aage wrote:Also, I'm requesting an extension on the deadline since the current deadline is tomorrow, just in case.
william18 wrote:aage wrote:Also, I'm requesting an extension on the deadline since the current deadline is tomorrow, just in case.
I could get behind the idea of just lynching marashu for info, and prolonging the game. I'll also put in a request for extension. We need 3 people right?
dakky21 wrote:aage, I like your plan... though I could easily get roleblocked or Mandy protected if we openly say to shoot exactly him.
aage wrote:dakky21 wrote:aage, I like your plan... though I could easily get roleblocked or Mandy protected if we openly say to shoot exactly him.
That's fine. If mafia wants to spend the night roleblocking you instead of the investigative roles, they're welcome to. If Mandy gets protected that doesn't really matter either, then we have a living busdriver who is very likely town.
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