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riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
jusplay4fun wrote:thegreekdog wrote:jusplay4fun wrote:That is ALL you got? Answers nothing, except MAYBE to offer a pretty picture.
Even if the picture is meaningful, you do not show that it even applies to you.
And I guess you have conceded the point that your "expert" (Luc Montagnier, a French virologist) is a nut job and a wack job.
I'm glad to see Saxi has found a new friend...
I point out saxi's false and/or misleading statements and his false narrative he tries to spin on this and a few other issues. I know you are being facetious, but JUS to clarify, in case it was not obvious, TGD.
saxitoxin wrote:FUN QUIZ: If trapped on a desert island and you could bring along one person to attend to your medical needs, who would you choose?
JP4F's nominee:Felix Bast, a botanist at the Central University of Punjab; once won 2nd place for spiciest curry in Chandigarh
Saxi's nominee:Luc Montagnier, a physician and the recipient of the Nobel Prize for Medicine, Legion of Honor, and Prince of Asturias Award
KoolBak wrote:A very entertaining thread. Siccem JP
I can only imagine the replies if you were from West BY GOD Virginny!
2dimes wrote:saxitoxin wrote:FUN QUIZ: If trapped on a desert island and you could bring along one person to attend to your medical needs, who would you choose?
JP4F's nominee:Felix Bast, a botanist at the Central University of Punjab; once won 2nd place for spiciest curry in Chandigarh
Saxi's nominee:Luc Montagnier, a physician and the recipient of the Nobel Prize for Medicine, Legion of Honor, and Prince of Asturias Award
Since Pfizer products didn't do their job I guess some hot MD in her 30s.
2dimes wrote:I was thinking Dr. Stacey Naito but...
thegreekdog wrote:Dukasaur wrote:nemapredaje wrote:Because I am not enough smart and brave to be a first who will take a vaccine which is not enough examined , I want know who takes it.
Few words how you feeling evry day if it possible.
In advance thanks.
IDK guys. I was opened this thread only for ppls who taked vaccine...
but okay,you all like to speak ...i guess xD
Yeah, discussions tend to go in unpredictable directions.
Anyway, to get to your original question.
Got the Pfizer vaccine on Thursday afternoon.
Low-grade headache began at approximately the 30 minute mark. Came and went a few times over the weekend. Was completely gone by sometime Monday noon-ish, so we'll say around the 92 hour mark.
Muscle pain in my arm began early Friday morning (approx 12 hour mark) and ended Saturday evening (approx 55 hour mark).
First dose was a big nothing for me (also got Pfizer). I got the second dose on a Sunday around 4:15pm. Started feeling fluish around 10pm so I went to bed. Slept until 6am but was fluish including headache, joint pain, chills. I had trouble reading or keeping my eyes open for longer than 5-10 minutes at a time. I was fully over the shot at 10pm that same day.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:Interestingly, people who have received the Death Jab are most likely to reject the emerging scientific consensus of a lab leak.
Dukasaur wrote: That was the night I broke into St. Mike's Cathedral and shat on the Archibishop's desk
mookiemcgee wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Interestingly, people who have received the Death Jab are most likely to reject the emerging scientific consensus of a lab leak.
What's your take saxi? On purpose or by accident (from the lab)?
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Covid-19 cases remain high among the unvaccinated
But while national Covid-19 case and death rates are painting a favorable picture of the United States' fight against Covid-19, case rates and death rates among the unvaccinated remain high, according to the Washington Post.
The rate of Covid-19 cases among the unvaccinated is 69% higher than the standard national rates, according to the Post, though it is declining. Meanwhile, the death rate among the unvaccinated is about the same as it was two months ago, and the hospitalization rate is as high as it was three months ago.
Unvaccinated people "think it's safe to take off the mask. It's not," Lynn Goldman, dean of the Milken Institute School of Public Health at George Washington University, said. "It looks like fewer numbers, looks like it's getting better, but it's not necessarily better for those who aren't vaccinated."
"Things are getting safer for those who are vaccinated," Umair Shah, Washington's secretary of health, said. "For those who are unvaccinated, they remain at risk. We have to make sure that nuanced message is getting to our community."
Shah said he hopes "this does not become a tale of two societies. The people who are vaccinated and are protected can resume their lives, taking off their masks."
However, the unvaccinated in some cases "are the ones who are not wearing a mask or washing their hands," Shah said. "Those are the very people who oftentimes will socialize and be around similar like-minded people. You're going to have the pandemic continue in those clusters"
(Repko, CNBC, 5/23; Morales/Paz, New York Times, 5/23; Groves, Associated Press, 5/22; Maxouris, CNN, 5/24; Keating/Shapiro, Washington Post, 5/21).
Most COVID-19 Infections and Hospitalizations are in Unvaccinated
A doctor comments on Cleveland Clinic data that shows most COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations are in people who are not fully vaccinated.
In addition to showing the majority of COVID-19 hospital admissions were in people who had not received a full vaccine series, another set of data looking at hospital employees shows a similar trend.
Researchers looked at nearly 2,000 hospital workers who had contracted COVID-19. They studied infections in the four months after the vaccine was offered. Results show 99.7% of infections in this group occurred among those who were unvaccinated.
They also found coronavirus MRNA vaccines to be more than 97% effective in protecting against COVID-19.
“This vaccine is highly effective to prevent our community from getting sick, not only our caregivers but the community. We have data on both. It cannot be more clear the message that vaccines work and it’s the key action that we need to do to get back to our normal lives as they were before coronavirus,” said Dr. Mireles.
The research team is currently preparing the data for submission into a medical journal.
They’re believing a lie.
HitRed wrote:The people wearing masks.They’re believing a lie.
JAMA Insights
February 10, 2021
Effectiveness of Mask Wearing to Control Community Spread of SARS-CoV-2
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536
Prior to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, the efficacy of community mask wearing to reduce the spread of respiratory infections was controversial because there were no solid relevant data to support their use. During the pandemic, the scientific evidence has increased. Compelling data now demonstrate that community mask wearing is an effective nonpharmacologic intervention to reduce the spread of this infection, especially as source control to prevent spread from infected persons, but also as protection to reduce wearers’ exposure to infection.
An increasing number of ecological studies have also provided persuasive evidence that universal mandatory mask wearing policies have been associated with reductions in the number or rate of infections and deaths (Table). These studies did not distinguish the types of masks (cloth, surgical, or N95) used in the community. This association is strengthened because, in many cases, other mitigation strategies (eg, school and workplace closures, recommendations for social distancing, hand hygiene) had already been deployed before enactment of mask wearing policies, after which the reductions were observed. A study that examined changes in growth rates for infections in 15 states and the District of Columbia before and after mask mandates showed that rates were growing before the mandates were enacted and slowed significantly after, with greater benefit the longer the mandates had been in place.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:In an interview with Canada's CHML-AM, Dr. Byram Bridle, a viral immunologist at the University of Guelph, is issuing a warning that the mRNA-based vaccines could have serious side-effects that may not manifest themselves for years. In 2020, Bridle received a $200K grant from the Government of Canada to research vaccine safety and efficacy. According to Bridle, he and his collaborators have become aware, in the last few days, of the underlying reasons for the small instances of blood clotting and how these may be canaries in the coalmine.
The interview has been suppressed by YouTube but remains available on Bitchute.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/g1IfHVKr17Bx/
Not many follow my will these days when everything is presented as good. My light of truth will shine forth even in the darkness of these times. Consider my way versus the world’s ways. The world's ways are much more dangerous and come with many pitfalls to catch those who are unaware. My way is truth and the only way to go. Search and you shall find.
jusplay4fun wrote:saxitoxin wrote:In an interview with Canada's CHML-AM, Dr. Byram Bridle, a viral immunologist at the University of Guelph, is issuing a warning that the mRNA-based vaccines could have serious side-effects that may not manifest themselves for years. In 2020, Bridle received a $200K grant from the Government of Canada to research vaccine safety and efficacy. According to Bridle, he and his collaborators have become aware, in the last few days, of the underlying reasons for the small instances of blood clotting and how these may be canaries in the coalmine.
The interview has been suppressed by YouTube but remains available on Bitchute.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/g1IfHVKr17Bx/
So saxi attempts to counter all my arguments with a "COULD" and "MAY NOT" from a study NOT YET started; well done, saxi. You jus got sacked on 3rd and 31. Now it's time for your next WIDE RIGHT attempt.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:jusplay4fun wrote:saxitoxin wrote:In an interview with Canada's CHML-AM, Dr. Byram Bridle, a viral immunologist at the University of Guelph, is issuing a warning that the mRNA-based vaccines could have serious side-effects that may not manifest themselves for years. In 2020, Bridle received a $200K grant from the Government of Canada to research vaccine safety and efficacy. According to Bridle, he and his collaborators have become aware, in the last few days, of the underlying reasons for the small instances of blood clotting and how these may be canaries in the coalmine.
The interview has been suppressed by YouTube but remains available on Bitchute.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/g1IfHVKr17Bx/
So saxi attempts to counter all my arguments with a "COULD" and "MAY NOT" from a study NOT YET started; well done, saxi. You jus got sacked on 3rd and 31. Now it's time for your next WIDE RIGHT attempt.
If I wrestle an alligator I COULD have my arm ripped off, but there's no scientific proof it will happen.
Will I, therefore, wrestle an alligator?
Personally, I will not. Others are free to do so, however.
saxitoxin wrote:mookiemcgee wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Interestingly, people who have received the Death Jab are most likely to reject the emerging scientific consensus of a lab leak.
What's your take saxi? On purpose or by accident (from the lab)?
I'm YELLOW ... created artificially, released by accident ... with the understanding that "created artificially" is liberally defined to include appearing in an animal without human intervention if that animal is physically inside a lab at the time.
Dukasaur wrote: That was the night I broke into St. Mike's Cathedral and shat on the Archibishop's desk
saxitoxin wrote:Interestingly, people who have received the Death Jab are most likely to reject the emerging scientific consensus of a lab leak.
As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general (5), the United States and 13 other countries (6), and the European Union (7) that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve. We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data. A proper investigation should be transparent, objective, data-driven, inclusive of broad expertise, subject to independent oversight, and responsibly managed to minimize the impact of conflicts of interest. Public health agencies and research laboratories alike need to open their records to the public. Investigators should document the veracity and provenance of data from which analyses are conducted and conclusions drawn, so that analyses are reproducible by independent experts.
mookiemcgee wrote:saxitoxin wrote:mookiemcgee wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Interestingly, people who have received the Death Jab are most likely to reject the emerging scientific consensus of a lab leak.
What's your take saxi? On purpose or by accident (from the lab)?
I'm YELLOW ... created artificially, released by accident ... with the understanding that "created artificially" is liberally defined to include appearing in an animal without human intervention if that animal is physically inside a lab at the time.
Since the first months of heavy reporting on the pandemic (like say march/april 2020) I've been heavily in the yellow camp just based on gut instinct and a bit of Occam's razor.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Recent increased hospitalization rates and the potential for severe disease reinforce the importance of continued COVID-19 prevention measures among adolescents, including vaccination and correct and consistent wearing of masks.
Recent increases in COVID-19–associated hospitalization rates and the potential for severe disease requiring ICU admission, including invasive mechanical ventilation, among adolescents indicate an urgent need for vaccination in combination with correct and consistent mask wearing by persons not yet fully vaccinated or when required by laws, rules, or regulations. Highly effective COVID-19 vaccines are now available to adolescents as an additional evidence-based prevention measure (9); expansion of COVID-19 vaccination of adolescents, with particular attention to racial and ethnic minority groups disproportionately affected by severe COVID-19, is expected to reduce COVID-19–associated morbidity within this age group.
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