Majority Want Biden Removed

[KoolBak]

Damn brother. Poignant, heartbreaking post

[saxitoxin]

Up to 40,000 Americans remain outside the walls of Hamid Karzai Airport, access to which has now been cut-off by the Taliban.

Some evacuation flights were leaving near-empty as a result; the German military’s A400M Airbus, with a capacity of well over 100 passengers, took off Tuesday with just seven passengers aboard.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/taliban-co ... 1629195393

The Taliban have ordered Americans to report to the nearest Taliban fighter and register their presence.

(Hopefully the 40,000 who will now be living in Afghanistan are Biden voters.)

[saxitoxin]

HitRed called it ...

China holds live-fire exercises near Taiwan in response to ‘provocations’

China has launched surprise live-fire air and sea exercises near Taiwan in response to what it called “external interference and provocations by Taiwan independence forces”.

According to a statement from Col Shi Yi, the spokesperson of the People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) Eastern Theatre Command, warships, anti-submarine aircraft and fighter planes were dispatched to the south-west and south-east of Taiwan on Tuesday.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ovocations

Meanwhile, abandoned by Biden, the Panjshir Valley continues to resist ...

On 17 August 2021, Amrullah Saleh — citing provisions of the Constitution of Afghanistan — declared himself President of Afghanistan from the Panjshir resistance base of operations in the Panjshir Valley, and vowed to continue military operations against the Taliban from there. His claim to the presidency was endorsed by Ahmad Massoud and Islamic Republic of Afghanistan Minister of Defence Bismillah Mohammadi. At around the same time, remnants of the Afghan National Army began massing in the Panjshir Valley at the urging of Masoud.

As of 17 August, the Panjshir Valley was — according to one observer — "under siege on all sides" but had not come under direct attack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_ ... stan_(2021)

[saxitoxin]

Damn brother. Poignant, heartbreaking post

+1

UPDATE: A surviving division of the ANA has reportedly just overrun Taliban defenses in Charikar, a few miles south of Kabul. Vice-President Saleh is rallying the remnants of the ANA to him for a major counteroffensive against the capital. If they've taken Charikar they're close to Bagram where there are probably still huge weapons caches they need. Things are about to go from worse to worst for the thousands of Americans whom Biden has abandoned in Kabul once the ANA starts shelling the city.

[Dukasaur]

From all the reports I'm reading, the troops sent by Biden to secure the airport have been successful, and hourly rescue flights began last night.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/17/flights-resume-from-kabul-airport-amid-scramble-to-leave-afghanistan.html

U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Henry Taylor, a logistics specialist on the Pentagon’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, said at a press conference Tuesday that the U.S. was “in charge of air traffic control” for military and commercial flights, adding that there were about 4,000 U.S. troops in Kabul to help provide security and evacuate Americans and the Afghan nationals who worked alongside them.

Taylor added that the Pentagon’s goal, which is slated to take about 24 hours to roll out, is to evacuate some 5,000-9,000 people out of Kabul daily. This plan would require flying one military cargo aircraft out of Kabul per hour.

For some reason, our local messenger of doom and gloom didn't see fit to mention this fact.

The eye of Sauron has turned elsewhere.

[HitRed]

The Taliban should let everyone Western or who has Western thinking leave. If your not happy and might cause trouble, best you are somewhere else. All those happy with the 6th century, can stay.

“We’ll even drive you to the airport in a newly captured Humvee!”

[jonesthecurl]

Ironic that you denigrate the 6th century while convincing yourself you're conversing with someone from the 1st.

[saxitoxin]

From all the reports I'm reading, the troops sent by Biden to secure the airport have been successful, and hourly rescue flights began last night.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/17/flights-resume-from-kabul-airport-amid-scramble-to-leave-afghanistan.html

U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Henry Taylor, a logistics specialist on the Pentagon’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, said at a press conference Tuesday that the U.S. was “in charge of air traffic control” for military and commercial flights, adding that there were about 4,000 U.S. troops in Kabul to help provide security and evacuate Americans and the Afghan nationals who worked alongside them.

Taylor added that the Pentagon’s goal, which is slated to take about 24 hours to roll out, is to evacuate some 5,000-9,000 people out of Kabul daily. This plan would require flying one military cargo aircraft out of Kabul per hour.

For some reason, our local messenger of doom and gloom didn't see fit to mention this fact.

The eye of Sauron has turned elsewhere.

Yes, I forgot to mention the U.S. Government's official spokesman said the U.S. Government had been a total success.

Meanwhile, the free and independent media - like CBS News - tell a different story.

[saxitoxin]

Here's something else the U.S. Government's official spokespeople said ...



Here's something else the U.S. Government's official spokespeople said ...



Here's something else the U.S. Government's official spokespeople said ...

Biden himself made reference to Saigon on July 8, saying the final withdrawal in Afghanistan would be much smoother: "There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the – of the United States from Afghanistan. It is not at all comparable."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/202 ... 143193002/

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice, shame on the pole that hit me in the head. Fool me four times ... my name's Duk!

[HitRed]

Afghanistan Hostage Crisis - Day 4
Do you know where your citizens are?

[saxitoxin]

Biden has done irreparable harm to world peace and stability. The editor in chief of the CCP's main newspaper says Biden's weakness is signal that time's now good for the PRC to seize Taiwan (China colluded with the Biden campaign to fix the 2020 election) --

[saxitoxin]

Summary:
- Biden Forces refuse to leave KBL to retrieve the 15,000 Americans Biden abandoned
- British Army 2 Para are going out to rescue all nationalities
- Screaming matches between Biden and British forces
- British are afraid Biden Forces might cut and run at any minute and abandon them; have assigned troops to monitor Biden Forces movements
- Abandoned Americans encouraged to try and locate British forces for emergency aid but to steer clear of Taliban and Biden Forces

[riskllama]

sounds about right to me :

[jusplay4fun]

I am witnessing a culmination of twenty years spent amount to absolutely nothing.

The people who've fought to secure these areas that have came got fucked beyond belief or just dead for this? Fucking great.

This is Vietnam if not worst.

And now I'm part of this shit bag legacy. Meme it up if you'd like. Imagine though spending nearly 6 years in two different shit holes fighting for some obscure ideal just crumble around you. All the people I've watched either die or become a cripple have just now been for nothing.

It's not Democratic, nor Republic at this point. We could have ended this a long fucking time ago.

I knew it wasn't for anything to begin with, I saw first hand that this was going to go south the moment we left, but it's all the more sad.

To those that have served with me past, present or future, all I can do is say my heart goes out to you. We're now part of a failed operation that should have been aborted almost a decade ago.

I'm ashamed of my service at this point. Not because of anything else but this delusional government that no longer has the best interest of it's people anymore.

Lock me up at this point. I'm too pissed off to care anymore. f*ck it and f*ck American ideals. It's been pissed down the drain. Killed like that dog you loved too much but got too old. Corruption rules, both parties, and I'm now a sad witness to the death of what I thought fought for.

Just f*ck it. I need another beer.

DDS,

I have relatives who fought in Vietnam who had and may still have similar feelings. From that perspective, I can understand your pain. At least our veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan were not spit upon and suffered verbal abuse upon getting off the plane in the USA upon returning. I also heard that many Vietnam Veterans purposely changed OUT of their military uniforms before going home after Vietnam to avoid the hurt and humiliation.

I do personally know only a few veterans from Afghanistan, one of whom is my nephew. He is still a Marine. He rarely talks about those two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan) form his perspective with me.

War is HELL, no matter how it turns out for those involved.

DDS, this may sound trite, but I want to thank you for your service to our country and for doing your duty. You did what duty expected of you.

Not every war ends in victory for our side. And defeat takes many forms.

And be sure to have a drink to honor those who fought and died. And remember those who came back but are wounded, mentally, physically, and/or spiritually, by the War. And maybe joining a veterans group can help you and other veterans.

[jonesthecurl]

I am witnessing a culmination of twenty years spent amount to absolutely nothing.

The people who've fought to secure these areas that have came got fucked beyond belief or just dead for this? Fucking great.

This is Vietnam if not worst.

And now I'm part of this shit bag legacy. Meme it up if you'd like. Imagine though spending nearly 6 years in two different shit holes fighting for some obscure ideal just crumble around you. All the people I've watched either die or become a cripple have just now been for nothing.

It's not Democratic, nor Republic at this point. We could have ended this a long fucking time ago.

I knew it wasn't for anything to begin with, I saw first hand that this was going to go south the moment we left, but it's all the more sad.

To those that have served with me past, present or future, all I can do is say my heart goes out to you. We're now part of a failed operation that should have been aborted almost a decade ago.

I'm ashamed of my service at this point. Not because of anything else but this delusional government that no longer has the best interest of it's people anymore.

Lock me up at this point. I'm too pissed off to care anymore. f*ck it and f*ck American ideals. It's been pissed down the drain. Killed like that dog you loved too much but got too old. Corruption rules, both parties, and I'm now a sad witness to the death of what I thought fought for.

Just f*ck it. I need another beer.

I'm seeing very similar sentiments from ex-forces brits.

[jusplay4fun]

The Brits have been our best allies for the past 75+ years, imo. Cheers to them and especially to those who fought beside our brave men and women.

[bigtoughralf]

Although in the absence of America the UK looks to have realigned itself with the Taliban:

https://news.sky.com/story/afghanistan- ... f-12384312

[bigtoughralf]

Is anyone else impressed with how smooth and bloodless this transition of Afghan leadership was? Not just smoother than the US overthrow of the Taliban but also smoother than the process of replacing Trump with Biden.

[HitRed]

The Terror has started in both places.

[saxitoxin]

Is anyone else impressed with how smooth and bloodless this transition of Afghan leadership was? Not just smoother than the US overthrow of the Taliban but also smoother than the process of replacing Trump with Biden.

When there is popular support behind a leader, transitions are smooth; when there is not, there is not.

The Taliban have the support of the Afghan people despite what we want to delude ourselves into thinking. The Taliban and the ANA were both composed of Afghans, not some alien force. The Taliban (Afghans) chose to fight ferociously and the ANA (also Afghans) chose to unlock the gates to let them in.

Americans look at images of cosmopolitan Kabul and think it represents Afghanistan like Afghans look at images of West Hollywood and think it represent the United States. The forces of international liberalism tried to turn Afghanistan into Little Denmark and it blew-up in their faces.

I mean, they had quotas for women in the Afghan parliament, the puppet government was doing campaigns about climate change, the American embassy was flying Gay Pride and BLM flags ... who seriously thought any of that was going to go over well in an Iron Age society? At the first opportunity, the Afghans themselves swept 20 years and $1 Trillion of that neoliberal bullshit away in the course of a few hours. We should be inspired by the Taliban. They have shown us that we can, domestically, do the same.

Biden and his handlers are panicking not because they lost Afghanistan but because they realize they're about to lose the world. The experiment of the last 300 years is coming to an end!

[saxitoxin]

For Populist-Nationalists, Biden may actually turn out to be a better president than Trump. Through sheer buffoonery, he has just singularly removed America from the world stage and the global order; what we wanted Trump to do but he didn't because of intransigence in Congress. Today, NATO convened an emergency meeting - without waiting for the U.S. - to discuss urgently militarizing Europe in the face of an America collapsing under Biden. And, all over, world leaders are expressing private and public disgust with Biden.

It turned out Osama bin Laden was right:

Osama bin Laden asked that Al Qaeda form hit squads to kill President Obama and General David Petraeus, but that Vice President Biden be spared because Biden is "totally unprepared for the presidency" and making him president by killing Obama would "lead the U.S. into a crisis."

https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/osama-bi ... d=16268578

Right on cue, less than a year into his term, the brutal reality of an incompetent regime led by a doddering old man collapsing in on itself ---

The Biden presidency will conclude well before 2024. It's unclear at this point if it will even see a New Year's Eve.

[bigtoughralf]

Through sheer buffoonery, he has just singularly removed America from the world stage and the global order

Although you could point out that Bush started a completely illegal war that killed 500,000 civilians, Obama fomented two civil wars then ran away from them, Trump abandoned the Kurds, threatened to leave NATO and assassinated a world leader etc, and the Western Europeans just continued to clap and say ‘more’, so Biden abandoning a few Afghans to be shot in a ditch is probably unlikely to lead anyone to dramatically rethink their relationship with the US.

[Dukasaur]

Although you could point out that Bush started a completely illegal war that killed 500,000 civilians, Obama fomented two civil wars then ran away from them, Trump abandoned the Kurds, threatened to leave NATO and assassinated a world leader etc, and the Western Europeans just continued to clap and say ‘more’, so Biden abandoning a few Afghans to be shot in a ditch is probably unlikely to lead anyone to dramatically rethink their relationship with the US.

[jusplay4fun]

Through sheer buffoonery, he has just singularly removed America from the world stage and the global order

Although you could point out that Bush started a completely illegal war that killed 500,000 civilians, Obama fomented two civil wars then ran away from them, Trump abandoned the Kurds, threatened to leave NATO and assassinated a world leader etc, and the Western Europeans just continued to clap and say ‘more’, so Biden abandoning a few Afghans to be shot in a ditch is probably unlikely to lead anyone to dramatically rethink their relationship with the US.

Here is one more quote from the non-ILLUSTRIOUS saxi:

Biden and his handlers are panicking not because they lost Afghanistan but because they realize they're about to lose the world. The experiment of the last 300 years is coming to an end!

These quotes illustrate typical saxi: he overstates his weak case with grandiose declarations, and tries to support his insignificant argument with poor evidence and examples. NOTHING new here.

When will American hubris on the world state end? Typical too of many previous powers, the USA overreached in both Iraq and Afghanistan. We spent and wasted too many lives, too many dollars, and too much of the respect and prestige of the USA.