Biden Death Jab Recalled After Mounting Deaths

[jusplay4fun]

and yet you continue to reply...

In case you did not notice, I like a good debate with facts and reasoning and reasonable discussion of issues. What do you offer? other than shrugs??

Edit by JP4Fun on 4/24/21:
Let me add that Llama does offer some help, here and there.

[saxitoxin]

There are a lot of unknowns. The only thing we know for sure is that the Biden Death Jab will give everyone erectile dysfunction.

[jusplay4fun]

and yet you continue to reply...

And I will offer the Llama another reply: COVID and the vaccine are on the minds of many people, not JUS the few who frequent this Forum on CC. People have genuine concerns about both the disease and the vaccine, as well as the economic and social impacts of the restriction done in the name of COVID health matters. In the past few days, I have talked to several people about these matters in RL as well as in this Forum.

And if you check, this is the only topic being debated right now in this Forum and I feel compelled to call out Saxi for his misleading statements, his false narratives, his lack of facts, his lack of command of the few facts that he cites, and his poor argument that he tries to offer as refutation. That puts him in company with the fake Burnie who no longer posts here.

And you continue with the your succinct, rather sarcastic, and quite shallow one-line comments.

THAT is my SECOND REPLY.

[jusplay4fun]

I'm pretty sure your ED has presented already.

Saxi, here is one that you missed.

and again, no evidence offered by Saxi. And no causality established, except in the case of Saxi. I cited my source.

[saxitoxin]

Great news!

Governor Burgum, the Republican governor of North Dakota, has announced North Dakota is going to take over administering lifesaving Trump miracle vaccine to Canadians due to the failure of the socialist government of Jo Jo Trudeau and xis Merry Band of Wokebots who were so busy debating intersectional feminism within Aleut transgendered drum corps that xey forgot there was a pandemic going on.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states ... al-workers

Hang on, Canada, adults on are on their way to help your impoverished and poorly governed land!

Doug Burgum -- Governor De Jure of North Dakota and Prime Minister De Facto of Canada

[jonesthecurl]

Don't tell me Saxi was exaggerating, moving his goalposts, and telling porkies? Say it's not so!

[jusplay4fun]

Don't tell me Saxi was exaggerating, moving his goalposts, and telling porkies? Say it's not so!

ALL that is SO.

Good one, JonesCurly

[Sackett58]

So basically the whole point to this thread is if Trump won re-election the Covid vaccine would of been greater than the Polio vaccine and because Biden won it is considered like injecting disinfectant into your veins.

[Dukasaur]

Every time I see "Biden Death Jab", I immediately think of the five-step death punch or whatever it was called, from Kill Bill II.

And every time I try to google it, either I get an out-of-focus fuzzy jpg, or I get a 27-minute YouTube video. I want to see a high-quality graphic, and I don't want to watch something for 27 fucking minutes. I beg thee, you millennials with your superior internet search skills, could somebody please, please, please post a high-quality gif or a reasonable-length video of the death punch scene from Kill Bill II?

[riskllama]

[Dukasaur]

Thanks, llama.

[jusplay4fun]

The J&J vaccine was NOT RECALLED. The CDC PAUSED its usage for about a week or so. I think the panel is to meet today for a decision to let it be used or to continue the PAUSE.

The European (EU) medical panel has allowed the AZ vaccine to go forward. (Please see the quotes below.)

SO Saxi is WRONG on those points, too (......"half of the West's vaccines"....)

I want to stop wearing masks and to END restrictions. The quicker more people get vaccinated, the quicker we get to "Herd Immunity" and the end of these things. I am also trying to COMBAT the misinformation ("fake news") by Saxi about the vaccine.

The EU's leading states are to restart their roll-out of the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine after Europe's medicines regulator concluded it was "safe and effective".

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) reviewed the jab after 13 European countries suspended use of the vaccine over fears of a link to blood clots.

It found the jab was "not associated" with a higher risk of clots.

Germany, France, Italy and Spain said they would resume using the jab.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56440139

Vaccine advisers to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention meet Friday to make recommendations for use of the Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccine after it was put on hold to investigate a potential link to serious blood clots.

The CDC and US Food and Drug Administration recommended a pause on use of the J&J coronavirus vaccine last week following six reported US cases of a rare and severe type of blood clot.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/20/health/jj-acip-meeting-whats-next/index.html

[Sackett58]

I want to stop wearing masks and to END restrictions. The quicker more people get vaccinated, the quicker we get to "Herd Immunity" and the end of these things. I am also trying to COMBAT the misinformation ("fake news") by Saxi about the vaccine.

Even with the vaccine there are a lot of people still not going to take it. I believe especially with India now getting a big wave that COVID 19 will be with us a while longer. The 1918 flu lasted a little over 2 years.

[saxitoxin]

Stupid Biden acts stupid - world leaders laugh at him

[saxitoxin]

After one year of the six feet rule, SCIENCE has determined it is totally ineffective. You read that right, we've been doing something for 12 months that has exactly zero efficacy.

After we have one full year to calmly, methodically, evaluate the Biden Death Jab and its long term implications, what will SCIENCE say then?

MIT researchers say you’re no safer from Covid indoors at 6 feet or 60 feet in new study challenging social distancing policies

- An MIT study showed that people who maintain six feet of distance from others indoors are no more protected than if they socially distanced by 60 feet.
- “We need scientific information conveyed to the public in a way that is not just fear mongering but is actually based in analysis,” the author of the study said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/mit-res ... study.html

According to the Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 mortality calculator, there's a 99.98% chance that if I don't get the Biden Death Jab, I'll still be alive one year from now ... laughing at tens of millions of men afflicted with erectile dysfunction and mercilessly slaying all the vag they can't. If you find me insufferable now, just wait until I've impregnated all your women (even the ugos).

[jusplay4fun]

Go on, move the Goalpost again.

[riskllama]

and yet you continue to reply...

[saxitoxin]

More J&J deaths are turning up. Remember what Saxi said earlier in this thread?

This isn't Star Trek ... you can't just say "computer - how many injuries" and instantly get spit back at you "three casualties on deck 7." Give it time. The premature deaths and erectile dysfunctions may take years to present.

In other words, "six reported cases" does not equal "six cases." During the Cutter Incident, it took more than a year before we had full reports that 40,000 people had contracted polio from a faulty vaccine.

Good science takes time.

[jusplay4fun]

Compare the RISK of blood clots from the AZ vaccine vs that from COVID itself:

Over 20 million doses of the AZ vaccine have been given in the UK so far. According to the MHRA, the risk of a serious blood clot as a result of the jab is approximately one in 250,000 people vaccinated, or four in a million. It’s also worth noting that Covid-19 itself carries a significant risk of blood clots; according to a study in the journal Thorax, the prevalence of pulmonary embolism and deep vein thrombosis in people with the virus was 7.8% and 11.2%, respectively.

https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/az-covid-19-vaccine-blood-clots-risks-explained/

Which is worse? Ask Saxi.

BTW: And it seems that Saxi is finally grasping that in Science new studies and new discoveries force at look at previous ideas. At his rate of "Getting it" there maybe hope for Saxi by the time he reaches the end of his life span.

[jusplay4fun]

More J&J deaths are turning up. Remember what Saxi said earlier in this thread?

This isn't Star Trek ... you can't just say "computer - how many injuries" and instantly get spit back at you "three casualties on deck 7." Give it time. The premature deaths and erectile dysfunctions may take years to present.

In other words, "six reported cases" does not equal "six cases." During the Cutter Incident, it took more than a year before we had full reports that 40,000 people had contracted polio from a faulty vaccine.

Good science takes time.

So, according to Saxi, we won't know what we need to know about COVID for a while: " Good Science takes time"

But we only know of ONE case of ED tied to COVID and Saxi ADMITS that he has it. I guess he can volunteer to be the first to be treated for this medical "situation" once they develop a vaccine for it.

Dukasaur wrote:
I'm pretty sure your ED has presented already.

[jusplay4fun]

At some point, expect Saxi to tell us how much smarter he is than the CDC panel about vaccines and public health. And he will quote things about the AZ vaccine that has NOT been approved for use in the USA. (Apparently our checks and balances, and US money, has kept out the more RISKY vaccine from Europe.)

I predict that many millions of doses of US approved drugs will be shipped to poor nations for use there. The mRNA vaccines do require special freezers, and we will likely ship those too. It is the RIGHT thing to do, but will add to the US Federal Budget deficits. (On the other hand, Saxi prefers to predict about ED effects of the COVID vaccines; Rumor has it that he is apparently an expert on ED, based mostly on his personal experience.)

Johnson & Johnson Vaccine Approved for Use Again with Warning, CDC Says

Vaccine advisers at the CDC met Friday to determine if Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine should be used after six people developed a rare blood clotting condition

Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccine should be used in the U.S. again, the Centers for Disease Control said Friday, after they advised a pause in inoculations while they investigated six cases of a rare blood clotting condition in women who received the vaccine.

The benefits of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine outweigh the small risk of blood clotting, a CDC panel decided. Federal health officials are expected to quickly follow their recommendation and advise states to lift the pause on inoculations with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

The CDC has suggested adding a warning label to the vaccine stating that "most cases" of the condition, which they're calling thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, or TSS, have been in women between the ages of 18 and 49. Anyone who receives the vaccine will be warned to look out for symptoms like blurred vision, fainting, seizure and coma that could indicate they have TSS.

The CDC, in conjunction with the Food and Drug Administration, initially recommended a temporary halt on inoculations with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine on April 13 "out of an abundance of caution" after six women developed the rare blood clotting condition within two weeks of getting the single-dose vaccine. The cases were all in women between the ages of 18 and 48. One woman died and a second woman was hospitalized in critical condition.

https://people.com/health/johnson-johnson-vaccine-approved-for-use-again-cdc/

[jusplay4fun]

Like Llama, I try to be helpful here on CC. I also try to fight vaccine misinformation, especially in this Forum. Please read the following article.

These Moms Work as Doctors and Scientists. But They've Also Taken On Another Job: Fighting COVID-19 Misinformation Online

https://time.com/5947557/covid-19-vaccine-misinformation-moms/

Last March, friends and neighbors began stopping Emily Smith in her town outside of Waco, Texas, with questions about the coronavirus. An epidemiologist at Baylor University, Smith knows all too well how viruses are transmitted. But as the wife of a pastor and as a woman of faith, she also holds a trusted position in her community, and she would speak to those who asked about why she personally thought social distancing was a moral choice.

As the weeks wore on, the questions kept coming: “What does flatten the curve mean?” “Is it safe for my child to kick a soccer ball outside with a friend?” So she started a Facebook page and called herself the Friendly Neighbor Epidemiologist. She adopted “Love thy neighbor” as the page’s credo.

Smith wrote from the perspective of a scientist but also a wife and mother. She recently explained, for example, why churches should still continue to refrain from holding in-person services even though Texas has lifted its COVID-19 restrictions. “I thought I was going to be talking to my mom and my aunt and my friends,” she says. “And my tone is still like I’m talking to my grandma. But it turned out to be a lot more people.” A year later, she has more than 76,000 followers on her Facebook page, and her blog gets 1 million to 3 million hits a week.

But as her digital footprint has grown—she now has followers all over the world, including a strong contingent among evangelical mothers living in the South—so has the amount of misinformation that pops up in the comments of her posts. That, too, she tries to approach with a “Love thy neighbor” ethos.

one more quote from this article; there is more:

The gal pals are just one faction of a growing grassroots network of doctor and scientist moms who have emerged as key players in the online battle against vaccine misinformation. While some of them have larger followings than others, it’s clear that most of them are connected in some way—talk to a mom in one state and she’ll suggest someone doing similar work in another.

And that work is crucial. In a February poll by Pew, 30% of Americans said they wouldn’t get a COVID-19 vaccine. The reasons vary: Black Americans have historically been mistreated by the medical establishment, which has led some to mistrust the health care system. The vaccines were delivered so quickly that some people worry about their safety (despite the decades of research behind them and rigorous trials). And some, including parents who have long been the target of anti-vaccine rhetoric, have encountered enough misinformation that they believe things that just aren’t true. Unless those people change their minds, the country will struggle to reach herd immunity.

[jusplay4fun]

and yet you continue to reply...

YES, as you again MISS the point: it is important to fight misinformation by poorly informed persons who spew lies and try to paint a false picture that may confuse the weak-minded. I am sure you are NOT so weak-minded, Llama.

BTW: How much effort does it take to quote yourself?

As I already said, this is about the only active thread in discussion at the moment.

And the more Saxi posts on this matter, the more apparent it becomes how poorly informed he is. He will quote and post almost anything to justify his false narrative.

[saxitoxin]

I make no argument one way or the other about the following, simply posting one quote and a few objective facts.

BC doc issues warning after vaccination side-effects & one patient dies

Dr. Charles Hoffe said his community has seen “numerous allergic reactions” with two cases of anaphylaxis, the death of a 72-year-old COPD patient after being vaccinated, and three people with on-going “neurological deficits.”

https://westernstandardonline.com/2021/ ... ient-dies/

Objective Fact: Lytton is a town of 300 people with a slightly larger surrounding aboriginal population.

Objective Fact: The full letter is here and here.

Objective Fact: Hoffe's existence is verifiable in the College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia database. He is a trained and licensed medical doctor with no history of anti-vaxxism and has personally administered 900 doses of the Moderna version of the Biden Death Jab. He has made no media appearances, nor appeared in any weird YouTube videos, beyond issuing this simple, short letter documenting his first-hand observations administering the Death Jab and then treating the aftermath.

[Sackett58]

Stupid Biden acts stupid - world leaders laugh at him

Decades from now Biden will be just another footnote in American history. The old stuttering guy with a son who made shady deals and was on drugs. People will barely remember him other than the guy who people wanted to vote for to see Donald Trump out of office. But Donald Trump will be remembered. People will write books make documentaries and the ones that paint an ugly portrait of him will outweigh the ones that try to portray him as a benevolent dictator. Writers will dissect his supposed great policies, the greatest in Trumps words and find they were not that great to warrant him greatness. But the history books will remember Donald Trump decades from now as the President who tried to overthrow the U.S. Constitution, a Constitution he was sworn to protect and January 6th will be Donald Trumps legacy in history.