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Re: HAPPY 2,022nd BIRTHDAY JESUS/MERRY CHRISTMAS 2022 A.D.!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:12 pm

jimboston wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:You again MISSED the point, jimb. :roll: Try again; try reading AGAIN what I posted. :roll:

And, work on your reading comprehension, PLEASE.


Your “point” was a bunch of unrelated facts, followed by an opinion.

I missed nothing.

If dates mean nothing in the view of organized religion then a lot of dominoes begin to fall.
*guess keeping the “sabbath” holy as a day of rest and reflection is useless, you can just choose your own day to rest and pray.
(f*ck what the 10 Commandments say)
*Imams are now cool with just going to chill on Friday and skipping Friday prayers right?
*What’s the meaning of a “Holy Day of Obligation” if the dates have no meaning or power.
*Why do the RCC and EO argue over the “right” date of Easter if the day doesn;t really matter?

I mean my whole life growing up in Catholicism they hammered in the importance of specific dates… and now your telling me they were wrong?


I mean my whole life growing up in Catholicism they hammered in the importance of specific dates… and now your telling me they were wrong?


It's NOT the date, it's the EVENT. You missed THAT point, and more, jimb. You did not pay attention very well in class, did you?

The same for KB. He too missed many points.

Your comprehension skills are ABYSMAL. As a Teacher, I have credence in making such an evaluation of you BOTH. I will try ONE more time:

1) The important point is that Jesus was born and made incarnate. That is in the Nicene Creed. It does NOT say he was born on Dec. 25.

2) The important point is that Jesus rose from the dead, on that day and event we now call Easter. NOTE that that date is NOT specific, a point that jimb seems to ignore. The exact date does not matter. (Look up both events the Nicene Creed and the Apostles Creed.)

3) I said that birthdates were not IMPORTANT to most people, for most of history (until the past 100 years or so) with the possible exception of SOME RULERS and Kings and Pharaohs. I even cited evidence of Gutenberg. You TOTALLY ignored that.

4) I need not respond further to KB. He sounds even more ignorant than jimb, and that is a very LOW bar.

5) Did ever recite the Creed? Did you pay attention to the words? APPARENTLY NOT. Try again, jimb. I think KB is beyond hope.

6) And speaking of faceless, KB's fake face, if you can call it THAT, is UGLY. PERIOD.

7) Of course it is a matter of FAITH. I think I said that already.

8 ) Duk rejects matter of faith.

9) I will repeat some arguments that I already made and that jimb largely ignored. These are valid points and get to the heart of the matter. From a discussion (debate) perspective, they still STAND because jimb ignore these salient points. Therefore, they are unrefuted and thus VALID.

Re: Message from Jesus: Go, for I am God
Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:04 pm

A) jimb has shown that he either:

1) ignores the evidence presented in this thread;

2) does not comprehend what he may or may not have read; or

3) keeps asking the question again to be argumentative. I will let the reader decide which it is.


and more, same thread, jimb said:
E) But jimb does not really want a logical intelligent discussion. He is looking to make arguments:

I’m not attacking faith. I’m attacking the Catholic Church.


and he also says:
IDK if I’m “looking for a fight”… I do like to point out logical fallacies and or things I find ridiculous.

In this case, what I find silly is an inconsistency in a weird/obscure proclamation of the Catholic Church.
It’s an obvious hypocrisy, even if it’s minor.


10) You keep going over minor points (i.e., minutia) and MISS the main points. That is call

a) Poor reading and poor reading comprehension skills.

b) Poor debating skills.

11) Unless you bring up a new point, jimb, I need to put you back on the IGNORE List.
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Re: HAPPY 2,022nd BIRTHDAY JESUS/MERRY CHRISTMAS 2022 A.D.!!

Postby jimboston on Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:09 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:
jimboston wrote:I missed nothing.


jimboston wrote:I mean my whole life growing up in Catholicism they hammered in the importance of specific dates… and now your telling me they were wrong?



It's NOT the date, it's the EVENT. You missed THAT point, and more, jimb. You did not pay attention very well in class, did you?


So you are saying all the priests and religious leaders for my entire life were wrong. OK. Thanks.

How else were they wrong?

If dates don’t matter then Holy Days of Obligation aren’t really important. Right? I can just go to church any other day to “make up”?


jusplay4fun wrote:
... That is in the Nicene Creed. It does NOT say he was born on Dec. 25.


… but the Nicene Creed was written in 325AD, over 3 CENTURIES AFTER Christ lived. It was written and made “law” at the behest of a political leader for a political purpose. Why does the Church conform to the whims of a political leader who died over 16 CENTURIES ago?


jusplay4fun wrote:2) The important point is that Jesus rose from the dead, on that day and event we now call Easter. NOTE that that date is NOT specific, a point that jimb seems to ignore. The exact date does not matter. (Look up both events the Nicene Creed and the Apostles Creed.)


I don’t ignore your point, I contest the validity of your point; or more accurately point out that the Church itself contests the validity of this point.

You also seem to be confused because in same sentence you say “on that day”, but then you contradict yourself and say the date doesn’t matter.

… and again if the date doesn’t matter how come the various churches can’t agree?


jusplay4fun wrote:3) I said that birthdates were not IMPORTANT to most people, for most of history (until the past 100 years or so) with the possible exception of SOME RULERS and Kings and Pharaohs. I even cited evidence of Gutenberg. You TOTALLY ignored that.


Yes you did say this, and yes I ignored it… because it’s irrelevant.


jusplay4fun wrote:4) I need not respond further to KB. He sounds even more ignorant than jimb, and that is a very LOW bar.


Interesting. I disagree. I think I’m more ignorant than KB!


jusplay4fun wrote:5) Did ever recite the Creed? Did you pay attention to the words? APPARENTLY NOT. Try again, jimb. I think KB is beyond hope.


As a former alterboy who attended Mass daily for years I have recited it, and likely have recited it more than you.
(Certainly I have attended more Masses than the average Catholic who only attended weekly.)

Also as a former alterboy who was bored shitless at most times during Mass I would of course pay attention to the words and churn them around in my head… and as I got older and smarter I would analyze them more and more. In regards to the Creed it was mostly rote meaningless bullshit… except the last part bothered me. Why do we have to basically swear allegiance to The Church? I mean I understand swearing allegiance to God and to the the Trinity…. but why the Church? As I learned more about Church History, swearing allegiance to a political institution like the Church really bothered me.


jusplay4fun wrote:6) And speaking of faceless, KB's fake face, if you can call it THAT, is UGLY. PERIOD.


Huh? Are you insulting his dog! f*ck you man! Dogs are generally better than people.


jusplay4fun wrote:7) Of course it is a matter of FAITH. I think I said that already.


What’s a matter of faith? The exact date of Jesus’ birthday or Easter?

People say “it’s a matter of faith” all the time, as if this magical phrase automatically explains everything.

Yet you don’t actually state WHAT you are saying we need to have faith in here…


jusplay4fun wrote:8 ) Duk rejects matter of faith.


Huh? How’d he get pulled into this?


jusplay4fun wrote:9) I will repeat some arguments that I already made and that jimb largely ignored. These are valid points and get to the heart of the matter. From a discussion (debate) perspective, they still STAND because jimb ignore these salient points. Therefore, they are unrefuted and thus VALID.


I don’t think my ignoring (or just missing) some useless and illogical “point” you make automatically means the “point” is un refuted and VALID.

That’s some faulty ass logic bruh!
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Re: HAPPY 2,022nd BIRTHDAY JESUS/MERRY CHRISTMAS 2022 A.D.!!

Postby KoolBak on Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:01 pm

:lol: :lol:

My 110 pound dobie loves to eat stupid peoples' faces :lol: :lol:

PS....JP....I've been completely real and findable here for 16 years you stupid f*ck. I've bought 2 dozen prems for people, send free product, helped in fundraisers and met many people IRL.

WTF have you done to enrich this community?

....that's rhetoric in case you're too fucking stupid to realize....
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Re: HAPPY 2,022nd BIRTHDAY JESUS/MERRY CHRISTMAS 2022 A.D.!!

Postby jimboston on Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:39 pm

KoolBak wrote::lol: :lol:

My 110 pound dobie loves to eat stupid peoples' faces :lol: :lol:

PS....JP....I've been completely real and findable here for 16 years you stupid f*ck. I've bought 2 dozen prems for people, send free product, helped in fundraisers and met many people IRL.

WTF have you done to enrich this community?

....that's rhetoric in case you're too fucking stupid to realize....


You such a saint.

Try hard!
(as my kids would say)

I think some religious people believe that it’s more important to follow the organized church’s rules, and less important to actually act in a “christian like” manner.

Anyway…. most dog owners get bonus points in my book just for having a dog.
Yeah they can quickly lose those points if they abuse the dog or dress it up in a stupid costume, but you get my pointer.
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Re: HAPPY 2,022nd BIRTHDAY JESUS/MERRY CHRISTMAS 2022 A.D.!!

Postby KoolBak on Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:18 pm

Dobies spoilt rotten....no outfits. Lol
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