Harris vs. Trump Debate Sept 2024

[HitRed]

There is word that the Harris campaign has asked for another Debate in October. We shall see.

A late October Halloween debate in costumes would be so cool.

It sounds great now. A lot could happen in the news between now and then. End to the bunker strategy?

[mookiemcgee]

Well, it's over boys. Taylor just endorsed Kamala. GG see you in 2028

[HitRed]

Heard

It is a show. - God

Saw a vision - Harris was a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

[jonesthecurl]

And Trump is a demon in Christian clothing.

[ConfederateSS]

----- Another hot topic.... Abortion.... Really ....
--------When she started on that crap....If I were running against her...Trump is right...If women want abortions...Vote in your State elections...Not that big a deal...Go vote...In your State elections...Where the topic should be...And is, Trump put it back where it should be...
------- Now...Me vs Kamala in that question....Hey, Kamala, they won't have to worry about abortions....One, they can never drive to the hospital, thanks to Biden/Harrisonomics....Two, more important, you are most likely to starve to death...You won't need an abortion....Thanks to the Biden/Harris destroying America the past 3 and a half years...No one can afford gas or food...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jusplay4fun]

-----[size=150] Another hot topic.... Abortion.... Really ....
--------When she started on that crap....If I were running against her...Trump is right...If women want abortions...Vote in your State elections...Not that big a deal...Go vote...In your State elections...Where the topic should be...And is, Trump put it back where it should be...
------- Now...Me vs Kamala in that question....Hey, Kamala, they won't have to worry about abortions....One, they can never drive to the hospital, thanks to Biden/Harrisonomics....Two, more important, you are most likely to starve to death...You won't need an abortion....Thanks to the Biden/Harris destroying America the past 3 and a half years...No one can afford gas or food...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

You ConfedSS, like Trump, use too many hyperboles and not enough FACTS. I can afford gas and food, and so can my neighbors. Only one person in my immediate neighborhood goes to the Food Pantry to receive Free Food. And two of us, including myself, volunteer there to help others.

Now, is gasoline too expensive and more so than under Trump? Yes, BUT the PRICE is down recently, (due to the change to the winter blends, mostly). Trump did not make his case well enough. And when asked "If you are better off now than 4 years ago?" Kamala did NOT answer it and Trump failed to call her on that Failure. Instead, he launches into hyperboles and his stump speech lines and does not respond with Facts. AND he starts blaming SOME of that on Illegal IMMIGRATION, again with hyperboles to that question and issues on the FIRST question posed.

[Votanic]

And Trump is a demon in Christian clothing.

noun: demon; plural noun: demons 1) A divinity or supernatural being of a nature between gods and humans. Also 2) a forceful, fierce, or skillful performer of a specified activity.
"a friend of mine is a demon cook president"

[kentington]

And Trump is a demon in Christian clothing.

This cannot be emphasized enough.

For me taxes and all prices were better under Trump. But he is not a good person, and he is not the savior angel people make him out to be.

[jusplay4fun]

And Trump is a demon in Christian clothing.

This cannot be emphasized enough.

For me taxes and all prices were better under Trump. But he is not a good person, and he is not the savior angel people make him out to be.

I basically agree with Ken-t on most of these points. However, I would say that Trump is not a SAINT; his "goodness" is a moral and subjective matter. There is no real Bad or Good in many such matters and persons. No one is truly Good or truly Evil, imo.

Many of our politicians (especially U.S. Presidents) had faults, and often MANY faults. JFK was a womanizer and rather reckless, as an example. Reagan likely believed in astrology and showed mental decline into his second term. Iran-Contra is a stain on his legacy, too. (
(Both had more faults, but these come to me quickly without more reflection.)

I have posted previously that Trump is viewed by many of his most ardent and rabid fans as a Savior, and if elected, many will be severely disappointed.

[HitRed]

There are many who try to stop those who do my work like your former President* who did much in the way of my will. My hand rests upon him, for he knows the truth and so do I. - God

* Trump

[Pack Rat]

Trump lost this debate, but at least he is trying to protect our dogs and cats from the evil migrants who devour our pets.



https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTF8e9qhr/


Trump wants to end the killing of babies after birth!



Thank you Trump for your scary stories with Halloween just around the corner!

show

[Pack Rat]

Save our pets!

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTF8dShR5/

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTF8dxGdL/


Too fukn funny! Thank you again Trump for all your stories!

[kentington]

However, I would say that Trump is not a SAINT; his "goodness" is a moral and subjective matter. There is no real Bad or Good in many such matters and persons. No one is truly Good or truly Evil, imo.

Totally. I believe this is more of a religious/non-religious thing. Religion favors absolute morality and non-religion favors subjective morality. That is a whole other discussion.

Many of our politicians (especially U.S. Presidents) had faults ... (Both had more faults, but these come to me quickly without more reflection.)

This is the meat of what I was getting at in the other thread with the morality meter. If they all have personal faults/sin/evils and you can't really measure which one is morally worse, then you have to cancel that out and use something else as the basis for your decision making. So, while it is fair to say Trump/Biden/Harris/Vance/Walz irks me more than the other, there really isn't a point to throwing morality shade into the argument.

They all have lied. Trump is a conman and fraudster. How is that different from Harris changing her policies every two days? We are pretty screwed no matter what. But I do believe Harris/Walz would generally lead us far more left as a country and I think that is a bad thing. Right now the left wants to do away with Free Speech and any part of the Constitution they don't like. The right has all kinds of problems, but I think freedom of speech is more important than any of those issues.

If you aren't allowed to talk and discuss anything, then you have no power as a citizen. All of our other powers have been usurped by the government. We aren't supposed to be double taxed, but have you ever sold a car? Why are you tax on income and the purchase of goods? Etc. There are a whole slew of things the government is doing to us that we should be focused on stopping and reverting before we worry about other things.

But to keep this on topic, sorry, Trump did not do himself any favors in the debate. I don't think people are changing their mind. I feel like there are very few who would change their mind even if either candidate claimed to be the devil. I do think that Harris didn't damage herself though like people were thinking she would.

[HitRed]

There is a clear divide happening in present day with followers and non-followers. The line has been drawn to the two opposing sides good verses evil. There is no middle anymore - choose which side you will stand for. My will means to follow truth and not the lies of the enemy. Pray for clarity, follow truth to the end of time. - God

[Pack Rat]

How can you make a similar comparison with Trump and Harris about LYING?

Trump can't help himself...he lies, makes up stories that defy all logic and is a FELON. This turd needs to win the election or he will be facing at least a year long stunt in courts and finally prison.

His desperation is apparent and he is already LYING about how the election will be stolen again from him. He still jokes about the hammer attack on Pelosi's elderly husband, all the while his supporters laugh about it. He led the insurrection and attack on Congress...and you compare Harris with that Orange Clown?

[jonesthecurl]

Trump did better than I expected. He mainly used whole sentences and avoided batteries, sharks, and noises causing cancer (unless I nodded off and missed it). However, he has no idea how to answer a question, just talks about whatever he and ignores the topic at hand.

[kentington]

and you compare Harris with that Orange Clown?

Yes, trust is trust. If they both lie, then they both lie.

We have to bring justice back to America for all people and not just for some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYAt3eDKXJc (at 00:18 it starts)

This is a quote from her 2020 debate. I agree with that statement 100%. The only problem I have is that she laughed about smoking pot (admitted she did smoke and inhale, which was funny), but while she was Attorney General she allowed people to be prosecuted for this. If she was concerned about justice at every level she would have turned herself in.

What about justice for Kevin Cooper? I won't post all of the details here, but she had her hand in that.

What about her lack of condemnation for Jussie Smollett? At first she said it was a modern day lynching, regarding Jussie. Which if what happened was true, then I would agree. So, no real problem with that statement. But that was a very strong condemnation on the action. Then she says it is disappointing when the issue was proved to be a hoax. But she didn't really call out the lack of justice. Which the chief of police and the mayor did.

https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1098724827869995009 - Source

“I believe them, and I respect them being able to tell their story and having the courage to do it.”

Trying to find the full video of this for context, but supposedly regarding women making claims about Biden. Although, she didn't support Tara Reade as far as I know (which may or may not have happened): https://news.grabien.com/story/sen-kamala-harris-2019-i-believe-biden-accusers


All I am saying with this is that each one is a liar. Each one wants the law to bend around those they like. Just like her involvement with the riot bail outs. So, yes I will compare her with Trump. They are both liars.

[Pack Rat]

Trump lies and his uneducated masses (Trump loves the uneducated) live and die with the alternative universe conspiracies.

[mookiemcgee]

Trump did better than I expected. He mainly used whole sentences and avoided batteries, sharks, and noises causing cancer (unless I nodded off and missed it). However, he has no idea how to answer a question, just talks about whatever he and ignores the topic at hand.

[Votanic]

Trump did better than I expected. He mainly used whole sentences and avoided batteries, sharks, and noises causing cancer (unless I nodded off and missed it). However, he has no idea how to answer a question, just talks about whatever he and ignores the topic at hand.

Those Kennedys... Am I right?

[jusplay4fun]

Trump lies and his uneducated masses (Trump loves the uneducated) live and die with the alternative universe conspiracies.

p-rat continues to show he lacks comprehension and only shows his hatred of Trump and everything he stands for.

Nothing new here; NO Surprises. Obviously p-rat's mind was not changed by the Debate, as expected.

p-rat lives in his own universe in his mind: WRONG about most things.

[Pack Rat]

[Pack Rat]

What's your favorite Bible verse, lol!

[Pack Rat]

Trump lies and his uneducated masses (Trump loves the uneducated) live and die with the alternative universe conspiracies.

p-rat continues to show he lacks comprehension and only shows his hatred of Trump and everything he stands for.

Nothing new here; NO Suprises. Obviously p-rat's mind was not changed by the Debate, as expected.

p-rat lives in his own universe in his mind: WRONG about most things.

Your reply has nothing to do with this factual video or the quote from Trump.

Tell me jusplay4MAGA, how does it feel that almost all leaders around the world think Trump is a clown.

[kentington]

Do you think he was trying to get her to laugh? He did a good job.

When I looked into it, the eating of pets and local animals seemed to be just rumors. That was a really stupid (and I think Kamala even says, "This is stupid" or something but she isn't mic'ed) hill to die on. If you wanted to go after illegal immigrants, why not the gangs and more importantly dangers of human trafficking.